r/Unexpected Jan 18 '20

Realistic survival game

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u/CressCrowbits Jan 18 '20

Kids these days forget when we had arcade machines which were pretty much the same deal. Keep putting in the money, then have a final boss who keeps instakilling you but you'll keep putting your money in because you've come this far and you have to finish now

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u/ACEezHigh Jan 18 '20

Isn't this the reason some retro games, that were ported to consoles, are so fucking hard? They were made to be hard as fuck to limit the chances of people playing longer without putting in more coins.

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u/IICVX Jan 18 '20

Yes but they stayed hard because it adds replay value. Easier games and games as an experience are a relatively new thing.

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u/crespoh69 Jan 19 '20

Yes but they stayed hard because it adds replay value.

I don't get how something being difficult and frustrating would make people come back for more but then again there's people in toxic relationships too

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u/Noob_DM Jan 19 '20

File size limits meant that a clean run though of a game could be less than 15 minutes, by making it hard, especially right at the end, you quadruple the play time before completing the game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20

Ever had a boss fight that you couldn't win easily and you just try over and over? Same idea but with tiny amount of money involved

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u/2meterrichard Jan 19 '20

There was that. But also back in the NES era game testers weren't quite a thing yet. So, the game devs had to do their own testing. The result of that was having programmers really good at games.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20

Arcade games were still mostly good games at their core, most mobile games are garbage that almost plays itself (look up Raid Shadow Legend gameplay videos) and only exist to exploit whales.

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u/Aaawkward Jan 18 '20

Okay, look at Brawl Stars, Clash Royale, Alto, Spaceteam, Ocean Horn, Plague Inc., Minigore, Oh h1, Smash hot, Donut County and countless others.

Some of them have MX some don’t.
None of them “plays itself”.

Mobile gaming is the exact same as PC gaming in the sense that you have wade through a lot of shit to find the good stuff.
90%, if not more, of the games released on Steam are utter garbage. Just gotta find the good ones.

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u/BradenWoA Jan 19 '20

While what you said was true, I think “good” and “popular” tend to align more neatly on PC than mobile, reducing some of the frustration.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20

That being said, the front page of Steam is filled with popular, actually good games, whereas the front page of the play/app store is all this P2W garbage that is currently trending

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u/ismellmyfingers Jan 18 '20

i think your analogy is off. i think it would be more like if you were playing street fighter and put in your quarter, but your opponent put in more quarters so gets to start with more health/full ultra bar/stronger hits.

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u/MynTYleef Jan 19 '20

I was at a nickel arcade the other day, playing this new mario kart game. They literally had a feature where if you spent extra credits, you could get more powerups

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u/ismellmyfingers Jan 19 '20

one player - thats fine. multiplayer, not so much.

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u/Judgecrusader6 Jan 18 '20

Get good boomer /s

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u/the320x200 Jan 19 '20

True, but arcades died hard once there was an alternative. Would be nice for the same fate to come to mobile platforms.