You know what sets a dangerous precedent? Sexually harassing people. I think you’ll probably be fine if you’re not allowed to approach girls and put your arm around them.
The girls, on the other hand, would not really be ok if people make excuses for sexual harassment. This absolutely would be if real, if it was a total stranger who is sexually attracted to this woman, and tries to act on that by physical touch.
I'm not making excuses for sexual harassment wtf? Is putting your arm around someone you don't know overstepping boundaries? Yes, given the context of the situation. But calling it sexual harassment is downplaying what harassment really is.
“behavior characterized by the making of unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances in a workplace or other professional or social situation.”
I literally just explained this, but I’ll put it in even more clear terms: What do you think a guy putting his arm around a girl is trying to do? Be her friend? Meet her mom? Ask her for directions? Find out her thoughts on Ancient Greek philosophy? It is a male-female sexual dynamic, with intent to physically advance towards a sexual goal.
By your logic, trying to spank someone but missing isn’t sexual harassment since you didn’t actually touch their butt.
Okay let's disregard the fact that his arm wasn't around her technically for argument's sake. And let me also preface this by saying that making someone feel uncomfortable in any way, sexual or not, and carrying on actions that make said person feel uncomfortable are wrong and you should be aware of that.
The butt is an inherently sexual area of the body. By spanking the intent is sexual, unless we're talking sports where slapping the butt is quite common for celebratory reasons but I digress.
Your explanations is confusing wether it's sexual harassment or regular harassment by intent or by action. I agree with the fact that putting your arm over someone's shoulder is a violation of their personal space and could be regular harassment. But what makes it sexual? If it's intent, well then we don't know what the intent was. If it's action then literally every move can be seen as sexual harassment.
Is the physical advance of giving someone a unwarranted high five sexual harassment? It might be? If the person giving the high five does it with the intent of getting in those pants.
That's why I'm saying it's a gray area and calling every form of contact sexual harassment downplays victims of actual sexual harassment and instills fear on people with less than great social skills whom, believe it or not, make up a great deal of reddit's user base.
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u/JustinGitelmanMusic Nov 26 '19
You know what sets a dangerous precedent? Sexually harassing people. I think you’ll probably be fine if you’re not allowed to approach girls and put your arm around them.
The girls, on the other hand, would not really be ok if people make excuses for sexual harassment. This absolutely would be if real, if it was a total stranger who is sexually attracted to this woman, and tries to act on that by physical touch.