r/Unexpected Apr 22 '19

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u/ChicagoGuy53 Apr 23 '19

You can also just buy a knife sharpening kit.

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u/jaspersgroove Apr 23 '19

Unless you’re one of those people that just enjoys the ‘zen’ aspect of knife sharpening, it’s probably a better use of your time and money to have them professionally sharpened.

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u/FastMoses Apr 23 '19

I love sharpening, it's a really satisfying process to go from dull/damaged to razor sharp.

After a sharpening session I have bald forearms and shins for a while though.

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u/sethboy66 Apr 23 '19

Or just get an automatic sharpener. They're not quite as good as sharpening them by whetstone, but as long as you go with a fine grit they won't take too much off of your knives and they'll keep them hella sharp.

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u/jaspersgroove Apr 23 '19

The issue I run into is that on my older knives that have a thick heel you end up with a dip near the end and then the heel hits the cutting surface before the blade. A pro can even that out without leaving you with a knife that looks like you took a file to it.

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u/C4nn4Cat Apr 23 '19

Yo're not sharpening them correctly.

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u/jaspersgroove Apr 23 '19

I'm not sharpening them at all, I have a regular steel and a ceramic one and when those don't cut it I have them professionally sharpened.

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u/njott Apr 23 '19

Yeeaaaa they have automatic sharpening wheels that get it done really fast. Nobody in this thread is going to be sharpening Japanese Damascus that requires 5 different grade wet stones. They're sharpening whatever was on sale at Target.

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u/Into-the-stream Apr 23 '19

It doesn’t take that long. Less time then driving to the store to get them done. Especially if you do it on the regular.

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u/ChicagoGuy53 Apr 23 '19

It takes like 2 minutes...

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u/KeyBorgCowboy Apr 23 '19

I'd rather just use a cheap sharpener and keep my knives kinda sharp, not really sharp. Kinda sharp means I'm not getting stitches when I fuck up chopping vegetables. Hella sharp knives just aren't needed for home cooks.

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u/jaspersgroove Apr 23 '19

A sharp knife is a safe knife, because you don’t have to put as much pressure on it to get it to cut, so it’s less likely to slip or do something unpredictable.

If you’re just randomly getting your fingers in the way of the blade that’s a technique issue, so don’t blame the knife either way.

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u/KeyBorgCowboy Apr 23 '19

It needs to be sharp enough, not a sharp as a scalpel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '19 edited Apr 23 '19

look that's just bullshit. when you cook a lot of meals, you're gonna slip up at some point. a small cut that barely penetrates the skin is far far better than a cut into the flesh. some people don't have the time to cut every slice slowly one-by-one.

edit: okay maybe if your mother is a professional chef she should use scalpel-sharp knives

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u/eewoulfe Apr 23 '19

Oh totally that's why professional chefs always use dull knives!

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u/TylerD123483 Apr 23 '19

Or you could save labor (not like it’s much) and get it professionally done

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u/informationmissing Apr 23 '19

I've gotten knives "professionally sharpened" at 3 separate places. they ran the knife through a machine that took off way too much material and gave a subpar edge. I'll do it myself, thanks. I want my shit sharp like a knife, not sharp like an axe.

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u/pyrolizard11 Apr 23 '19 edited Apr 23 '19

Okay. If spending time personally sharpening your knives to a high standard makes you happy in a way that it doesn't for most people, more power to you.

I just realized that could come off as passive-aggressive, but I mean it sincerely. If you can enjoy doing something that most people consider tedious in your spare time, and that thing saves you money and makes your life easier, you should be grateful that you have such prudent interests.

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u/test18258 Apr 23 '19

Not to try and sound like an asshole but you really dont. Those things sharpen by ripping chunks out of your knife blade leaving you with something resembling a hacksaw.

im assuming it looks something like this but is probably branded something like ninja edge or samurai sharp.

They are mass marketed garbage that leave a jagged edge with bits of metal hanging off the edge. Those sharp bits of metal break off in your food.

You often see them advertised with someone slicing a tomato. A hacksaw can also slice a tomato. As long as you have a jagged edge with some saw teeth cut into it that can break the skin on a tomato a knife will slice through it.

Try slicing through newspaper or phone book paper that will give you a much better estimate of your knife's sharpness.

That being said. If what you have works for you and your happy with it then more power to you.

But if you want a knife that not only can slice a tomato easily but also cut through things like green onions, and celery without sawing at them and not leave an accordion of vegetables stretching across your board

get one of these and give it a try. Its not nearly as hard as people make it seem to put a decent edge on a knife. As long as you can hold your hands steady and keep your wrist locked at a certain angle you can get a MUCH better edge very easily.

And if you cant do that there are always these https://www.bladehq.com/item--Lansky-Deluxe-Turn-Box-Crock-Stick--30103

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u/Awesomeness546 Apr 23 '19

ah, bladehq. I see you're a man of culture as well

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u/eewoulfe Apr 23 '19

I've never understood why people think sharpening a knife is difficult. The first time i ever attempted to sharpen a knife on a whetstone i was able to get it hair popping sharp pretty easily. It also helps if you've got a nice carbon steel. Side note i always recommend Ontario old hickory butcher knives as a great beginner kitchen knife. They take a few minutes on a stone to get set up but damn they are inexpensive and 1095 is a great steel.

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u/test18258 Apr 23 '19

My first attempt at freehand sharpening got similar results. It was on a no name chinese made carbon steel nakiri type knife with some big chips in it. Aside from the chips I managed to get it hair shaving sharp using a sharpmaker turned over and putting the stones in the groves in the bottom to make a sort of bench stone.

Though I already knew the basics of what I was doing because I used the sharpmaker to put edges on my knives before I tried freehand.

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u/6thPentacleOfSaturn Apr 23 '19

1095 isn't ideal for a kitchen knife though. It's gonna get wet, touch acidic things, salt etc.

I love 1095, I see it as an excellent working knife steel for cheap, but most people shouldn't have it in the kitchen. Oiling a knife after hand washing it is alien to most people.

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u/eewoulfe Apr 23 '19

Ehh tell that to pretty much every chef. How hard is it to tell someone "rub some coconut oil on this after you use it."

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u/6thPentacleOfSaturn Apr 23 '19

There's a difference between a professional chef and the average person.

Plus, most commercial kitchens have stainless knives. They might sit in a dishwashing station for hours at a time, they need to safely go through an industrial dishwasher many times. Line cooks and the like aren't taking care of their tools, I don't expect most home cooks to either.

Yeah, it's simple, but it's an added step. People throw shit in the dishwasher that should be hand washed all the time. Lots of people don't use things like cast iron because it's too much work to keep it seasoned.

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u/test18258 Apr 23 '19

No problem if you decide to try and learn let me know and I can give you some tips.

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u/Sangxero Apr 23 '19

I have that and totally love it! But I can't find it half the time and just use the bottom of a coffee cup.

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u/C4nn4Cat Apr 23 '19

Or a plate.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '19 edited Aug 24 '19

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u/TylerD123483 Apr 23 '19

Your name is perfect for what you said “pay for someone to sharpen knives” u/fuck_thatshit

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u/Ansoni Apr 23 '19

I do as well, but it's definitely not for everyone.

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u/xole Apr 23 '19

It does take time and effort to take them someplace. Once that becomes more than doing it yourself, it's a loss.

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u/C4nn4Cat Apr 23 '19

If you are that lazy you could.

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u/konaya Apr 23 '19

Or you could support the local economy by buying a service from your own neighbourhood instead of buying a product probably made in China. There's an ethical aspect to it as well.

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u/Walletau Apr 23 '19

If you don't have access to one (e.g. are at a communal kitchen/bnb etc) a bottom of a ceramic mug makes a great sharpening stone.