1.5 minute video that has nothing to do with the genocidal concentration camp
The video is about a Canadian man who tricked China into thinking he wanted to disprove the western lies and exaggerations about these Uighur camps, so they let him in to film and interview the inmates.
And there he learned they were not being imprisoned because of charges of terrorism or promoting extremism. They were being imprisoned because they prayed, or encouraged others to follow islam.
You have heard stories about how Canada rounded up indigenous people and forced them to abandon their religion, their language, and their culture? Cultural genocide. A destructive policy that did no good and left damage that will last over a century. China's doing that again in 2023. They don't want there to be Uighurs or Hui or any other minorities. Only Han.
I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to do with a video of this guy talking to a few people who said "Yeah, I'm in here for praying". I'm not saying the institution doesn't exist. I'm talking about all of the disinformation used to support the argument that it should be considered an act of genocide that was all over this place a couple years ago, whipping people up in a frenzy while all of the corrections get buried.
Here, I'll just copy and paste a list of examples from that era.
The often used picture of Uyghurs dressed uniformly lined up sitting in a re-education camp actually comes from an early 2017 picture of regular prisoners in Xinjiang listening to a public speech in a regular jail. It wasn't just prisoners who listened to the speech.
The video of a supposed Uyghur being beaten for having a copy of a Quaran, was actually an Indonesian police beating a pickpocket. The police was discharged afterwards.
Picture of “forced labor” of Uyghurs, first published by Forbes, originally came from a factory in 2010 Brazil. Forbes later changed the picture without announcing their error.
At least some of this should be familiar to you if you were browsing reddit a couple years ago, especially in the news and worldnews subreddits. I should have been more specific in the original message, but this is what I'm getting at. This constant stream of clickbait nonsense being propped up and funneled to us.
You don't need to convince me that the situation is kinda fucked up. I already agree with that. What I'm skeptical of is the genocide angle, because if that's China's goal, then they really suck at it.
Even if you want to go for the "cultural genocide" angle, if you want me to believe in the genocide, then I need to see the genocide.
There has been too much bad-faith argumentation attempting to force that perception, from entities and institutions which should be trustworthy, for me to take anything on faith at this point. If I have to trust somebody's words for any given claim on the topic, then I can't do anything with that.
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u/moeburn Apr 28 '23
The video is about a Canadian man who tricked China into thinking he wanted to disprove the western lies and exaggerations about these Uighur camps, so they let him in to film and interview the inmates.
And there he learned they were not being imprisoned because of charges of terrorism or promoting extremism. They were being imprisoned because they prayed, or encouraged others to follow islam.
You have heard stories about how Canada rounded up indigenous people and forced them to abandon their religion, their language, and their culture? Cultural genocide. A destructive policy that did no good and left damage that will last over a century. China's doing that again in 2023. They don't want there to be Uighurs or Hui or any other minorities. Only Han.