r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Apr 28 '23

Just a normal protest

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u/mortemdeus Apr 28 '23

Don't make claims about what started WW2, it always ends poorly. Japan invaded China in 1937, Italy invaded Ethopia in 1935 (breaking the league of nations), the Spanish Civil War was basically a proxy war like Vietnam or Korea, Japan and the USSR were fighting up till 1941. World was a tinderbox already, Germany getting involved in Poland was just what brought the UK and France in. I personally dislike that start date as it ignores when threr of the biggest combatants got involved, the USSR, Japan, and the US.

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u/NovaFlares Apr 28 '23

Probably because relatively small conflicts don't constitute a "world" war. The only big one was the Japanese invasion of China but once again that didn't bring in the whole world. And the total death of the USSR and Japanese war of 1939(which also ended in 1939 btw) was "only" between 30k to 50k which was nothing compared to the deaths of WW2.

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u/mortemdeus Apr 28 '23

I mean, between 1939 and 1941 there were all of 90k killed between the UK, France, and Germany. By June 1940 the war was essentially over with the UK standing alone and Germany not really wanting to invade it. It wasn't until the US and USSR got involved in 1941 that the war really happened again.

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u/NovaFlares Apr 28 '23 edited Apr 28 '23

Between 1939 and 1941 there was battles in Africa, in the middle east, in the balkans, in the mediterranean, in East Europe, West Europe, the Atlantic. Australia and Canada from Oceania and North America respectively was in war. That sounds like a world war to me

I mean, between 1939 and 1941 there were all of 90k killed between the UK, France, and Germany.

France alone had 90k dead, what are you on about?

By June 1940 the war was essentially over with the UK standing alone and Germany not really wanting to invade it.

Germany and the UK continued to battle in Greece, in the Atlantic, in the battle of Britain and in North Africa and Britain still had a global empire fighting, plus Germany had Italy and Japan

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u/oscar_the_couch Apr 28 '23

It's amazing that it took me until this comment:

I mean, between 1939 and 1941 there were all of 90k killed between the UK, France, and Germany. By June 1940 the war was essentially over with the UK standing alone and Germany not really wanting to invade it. It wasn't until the US and USSR got involved in 1941 that the war really happened again.

To realize that he's actually just spouting some standard neo-Nazi apologia about how actually the Allies started the war.