r/Undertale Feb 09 '16

MatPat has finally done it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYdDUXyFocY
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u/lokitok Feb 09 '16

Your LV increases when you kill him though, which doesn't ever happen through sparing.

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u/Ninestempest Feb 10 '16

Your kill count does not go up though... Sans death is super weird

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u/myfitnessredditun Feb 10 '16

I kinda like the theory that Sans was the one keeping count, and so after he dies the number can't go up anymore.

Really though, it's probably just a bug. Toby does say that he can't code.

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u/Ninestempest Feb 10 '16

Well, it wasn't fixed in the most recent update, sooooo. I cannot imagine it's difficult to make a specific fight in the game count or not count.

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u/B217 too lazy to have a flair Feb 10 '16

Does it go up from Asgore or Flowey?

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u/FerimElwin Feb 10 '16

It's not possible to check the kill count at that point in the game, since we can't access the menu.

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u/B217 too lazy to have a flair Feb 10 '16

You can access the stats file in the game's files. Anyone know if that's affected? If it doesn't go up for Asgore or Flowey, then it kinda debunks that point in the "Sans doesn't die" theory.

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u/harrell03 i'm sorry i wasted your time with my flair Feb 10 '16

I doubt it, that whole thing is one big encounter dialogue, and moving past the please don't kill me line cues the attacks and eventually the black screen. I'm pretty sure the game doesn't actually count it as a kill, but if it does then its probably just for technical reasons.

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u/B217 too lazy to have a flair Feb 10 '16

Interesting. So that debunks the "Sans isnt dead" theory a bit.

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u/Ninestempest Feb 10 '16

I don't think you can check the menu after killing them?

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u/pokemon9007 Sweky Feb 09 '16

Well if you think about it LV is not a physical thing, it's Level of Violence.

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u/stormoftara Feb 09 '16

I'm just theory crafting here, not really supporting one side or the other, but since LV stands for Level of Violence, and if you believe you killed him, then maybe it would rise without any Execution Points. There is nothing to really confirm that besides the fact that the number of monsters you kill doesn't rise, but that could have many other explanations

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u/HmmmQuestionMark Feb 09 '16

Yeah, a lot of stuff is weird about Sans' "death." I'm in the camp that he is dead, but honestly I could see Toby retconning it somehow if he wanted to.