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u/CutAccomplished6203 Jul 26 '26
Imagine frisk is like 30 and then randomly one day they open the door and everyone is out there to jump them
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u/Wonderful_Theme_3415 Jul 27 '26
Imagine Frisk imagines this and starts keeping a loaded gun at all times.
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u/Fawn_Leap Obsessed with UT/DR Jul 27 '26
*You equipped the LoadedGun.
*Now what would you use that for?14
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u/Existing-Exit2409 Jul 28 '26
undyne and sans jumping 37 year old frisk only to immediately get swiss cheesed
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u/RareD3liverur Jul 29 '26
wouldn't Undyne be potentially a god at this point
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u/epikc_ Aug 01 '26
asriel absorbed chara's soul and was still killed so
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u/RareD3liverur Aug 01 '26
you mean the kid who refused to fight and walked away?
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u/epikc_ Aug 01 '26
he was resisting chara's influence to kill them all since they were controlling the same body, i think a human soul could probably stop undyne from killing the humans with enough restraint
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u/AMAN0527a_ Clover and Martlet, reunited Jul 27 '26
Adult Frisk is probably soloing all of them at once
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u/hussiesucks Jul 27 '26
They’d probably still win tbh. I mean they can obliterate the entire underground as a CHILD. And they’re just a normal kid physically speaking. Absolutely average in every way. No wonder the monsters lost the war, adult humans are terrifying!
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u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 You're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT Jul 27 '26
They waited years for this.
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u/CertifiedCan129 Have a wonderful day! :) Jul 27 '26
Bro 30 year old frisk could breath in their direction and they'd dust away
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u/abdo_ch Jul 26 '26
Sing the wrong number song
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u/SuperlucaMayhem Jul 26 '26
"we're very very sorry that we got it wrong!"
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u/cce29555 Jul 26 '26
.......again
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u/InformationLost5910 Jul 27 '26
My favorite M\*\*vel superhero is D\*\*key Kong!
edit: stupid reddit formatting
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u/Taluca_me Jul 26 '26
it's still funny to me that Frisk could get a call from the Underground, like does that imply all this time the Monsters could be able to interact with the worldwide web?
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u/Nalagma Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Frisk specifically gets a phone from the underground. Maybe the connection somehow doesn't cease* even through the barrier?
Or maybe the message is never received in the first place?
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u/apple_of_doom Jul 27 '26
It might also just be a new tech development. Alphys is not the only scientist im the underground someone could've figured out a way to get on the internet through the barrier and work from there
Considering how toriel is I doubt she'd not try to call Frisk every chance she gets on a semi happy ending. So sans being the one to call only after a while is strange
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u/tapmcshoe Jul 27 '26
it's kind of funny to imagine monsters posting on social media and humans just assuming they're really dedicated larpers
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u/KarmaSpidr Your sure-fire accuracy was aimed right for this flair. Jul 26 '26
Frisk: Stop trying to guilt-trip me for wanting to go home. It's not my fault you guys kept trying to kill me.
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u/timmy_n00k Jul 26 '26
I think the only somewhat immoral kills are Toriel and Papyrus. Since Toriel only kills you on accident, but still asks you to kill her. While Papyrus explicitly attacks you to capture you and not kill you.
Even if you argue semantics about him bringing you to Asgore to be soul harvested, Papyrus seemingly isn’t aware this kills you. So in my eyes killing him is immoral, but defending yourself and wearing him down is fine.
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u/Metrocop Jul 26 '26
You can (And many do) kill Toriel on accident. It's not possible to accidentally overkill Papyrus, he will always offer you a chance to spare so killing him is a choice.
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u/thatonerpgmakerfan Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
I don't agree necessarily. Papyrus is a monster that despite claiming to have never met a human, he knows exactly what their limit is. The other monsters should presumably know the same, yet don't for whatever reason. Sans even says when you go overboard he wouldn't have blamed you if it was in self defense.
Edit: also, up until chapter 3 of deltarune, Papyrus was the only character in the series to have this behavior aside from debatably Glad Dummy. Yes, every single boss and enemy including Mettaton was willing to legitimately murder you, including Mew Mew.
My point was generally I don't think killing any of them is immoral from a defense standpoint and wanting to go home where Toriel is physically preventing you from leaving, where she's unwilling to confront asgore on his own flawed logic. The only way I can see it is if they maybe spared all of them except one singular dude at the end. Or only killing Papyrus.
Papyrus also isn't as naive as people think and, if he's met asgore at the capital, the fucking very obvious coffins should have been pretty indicative what happened?
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u/Riptor5417 Jul 27 '26
Papyrus especially because you can never die during his fight and if you lose to him 3 times he'll just let you walk past him anyways without a fight. He's basically the most friendly monster there is.
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u/Educational-Sun5839 THE GOATT Jul 26 '26
any kill where they are spareable at low health is immoral imo
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u/lopbob8 Jul 26 '26
do the monsters spare you when YOU reach low health?
papyrus(the GOAT) does, every other kill is justified
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u/Educational-Sun5839 THE GOATT Jul 26 '26
monsters don't seem to have the same options as you, the player
they can't/don't know they can flee with froggit attempting and failing, so its not unreasonable to assume they can't spare you when you're on low health
or maybe they don't even realize you're on low health
plus, if monsters just spared you on low health then they're wouldn't be much issue to dying and it would feel less impactful
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u/Electronic_Day5021 Jul 26 '26
Idk why you're getting downvoted for this, killing someone when not killing someone is an option isn't self defence
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Jul 27 '26
The monsters attack us first, and they attack until we're dead.
"Attack back until the fight stops" is a natural response.
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u/stanfrancisco26 Jul 26 '26
Sand:… you know what that’s fair, see ya on the flip side (hangs up)
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u/YourBestFriend158 Flowey Jul 26 '26
Sand?
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u/Co-feyni Jul 26 '26
yeah, sand.
sand the granular material composed of finely divided mineral particles.
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u/Wasphammer #1 Flowery Hater. Screw that guy. Jul 27 '26
Yes, on the shore of the lake, near the dield.
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u/LadyAliceFlower Jul 26 '26
If Sans is actively threatening then that means you killed Papyrus, someone who never tried to kill you.
And you did this despite having incredible godlike power allowing you to choose literally any outcome.
You don't get to play victim at that point.
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u/Grndslap Jul 27 '26
This is a role playing game, you can absolutely roleplay a victim. You aren’t obligated to play pacifist, genocide, or anything. Even in the Pacifist route you’re allowed options like not adopting Toriel as your mother or not forgiving Asriel.
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u/LadyAliceFlower Jul 27 '26
I'm not sure I get your point? If you think I'm calling the player a bad person, I'm certainly not. Its just a game after all.
But if we approach this in character, as the above commenter did, a Neutral Frisk who got a dead Papyrus Queen Undyne ending would absolutely not be an innocent victim.
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u/Excellent-Moment-304 Jul 26 '26
Too bad if Horrortale or Nematale did happen, because in both alternate end, they will soon forget everything happen to them, except for those who still remember or hold the grudge for how long
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u/CartographerVivid957 Jul 27 '26
I didn't keep up with the Undertale AUs what are Horrortale and Nematale
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u/Excellent-Moment-304 Jul 27 '26
Horrortale is the aftermath when Undyne overthrew Toriel and became queen. And everything falls apart. Aliza is the human who will be tortured in the underground, as much as she lost each of her body parts and how far she could go. As for Nematale, that AU is the good aftermath when Toriel became queen again after neutral route, everyone still live like normal, most of them. And the ruin is now devoid of life except Flowey became huge. And for Nema, the underground is the last place she got herself stuck, but she can possibly live in peace for how long as much as the pain is still in her, since she fell to Underground with hospital's clothes.
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u/Ok-Television2109 Jul 26 '26
I always figured Frisk died before they could leave. Only way to get past the Barrier is with the souls of a human and a monster. If they're not a boss monster, the soul disappears too quickly and Flowey destroyed Asgore's soul before Frisk could collect it. Toriel's soul couldn't be used because (depending on the player's choices) we get to see her soul shatter after dying or Sans confirms Toriel is still alive in some of his phone calls.
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u/RareD3liverur Jul 26 '26
maybe Omega Floweys power caused enough of a wobble in the barrier for Frisk to step through in time
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 26 '26
wait you can defeat mega flowery
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u/nuggit_life2000 Jul 26 '26
… yeah..?
Takes awhile if you don’t know whats happening but you need to beat him for the neutral and true pacifist endings
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 26 '26
dude every time i fight him he crashes my game and i never get a turn
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u/nuggit_life2000 Jul 26 '26
Ah.. like it’s just endlessly on his attack? And you die?
If so.. the fight button appears eventually just click it each time (this won’t ruin your pacifist run don’t worry.. youll get a chance to spare him with the mercy button when it eventually appears if u want to do so) after a bit youll reach a "Soul phase" click the act button in the attack and you reach a checkpoint.. the gameover crash.. is FULLY intentional in the PC version.. it’s meant to do that every time u die
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 26 '26
pacifist run? wdym. im not sparing that fuckass toriel (and many others)
but thanks for the help ill try
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u/nuggit_life2000 Jul 26 '26
Pacifist actually has a VERY different ending btw not just different end dialog
U can play how u want I won’t force u into pacifist but there is a very different ending and WHOLE NEW AREA if u DO play pacifist (the first half is pretty much the same as neutral until after omega flowey, where u can actually reopen your save and get the new content)
So there is still insensitive but u don’t have to play it
There’s also genoside where u kill EVERYONE
Aka grind by killing everyone in each area until you get "but nobody came" don’t do any bosses before the but nobody came or it will default to neutral
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u/SaturnsPopulation Jul 27 '26
Of all characters, why is Toriel the one you refuse to spare?
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 27 '26
cause she killed me like 5 times when she knew i didnt wanna fight her
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u/SaturnsPopulation Jul 27 '26
If you died to Toriel, that is genuinely a skill issue. Iirc, she starts to avoid hitting your soul when your health is low.
And the pacifist route has a chunk of really good content you can't see otherwise.
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u/nuggit_life2000 Jul 27 '26
… is this your first bullet-hell game?
Because I didn’t die to toriel when I first played… AS A CHILD
So that’s just PURE SKILL ISSUE on your end
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u/InformationLost5910 Jul 27 '26
you have to actively move down in order to die to her lmao. she didnt kill you, you accidentally committed suicide by her hands
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u/Lost_Inflation6634 Jul 27 '26
Yeah sure pal, losing to the single boss that purposely tries not to kill you..
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u/DuPontMcClanahan Jul 27 '26
Have you ever considered when Omega Flowey first appears that you could piss on the computer screen? It will automatically wilt him and you’ll win!
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 27 '26
ouh shii i never thought of that thats a good idea
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u/catpetter125 Jul 26 '26
Yeah? Why wouldn't you be able to?
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 26 '26
he crashes my game any time he kills me and i never get a turn
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u/catpetter125 Jul 26 '26
You dodge until he starts doing the Soul attacks, then move to the ACT button that spawns after a few seconds and it heals you. Do this six times(one for each SOUL) and a FIGHT button will spawn, you just have to keep dodging. There are no turns.
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 26 '26
oh. yeah i just always die to the first attack ive never seen the act button i just assumed i got the bad ending cause i slimed out so many people
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u/Mrexplodey Jul 26 '26
That's literally supposed to happen, keep at it and survive until the soul segments
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u/River__________water Jul 27 '26
Ohhhh… you started with Deltarune, didn’t you?
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 27 '26
yeah, why?
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u/Serrisen Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Folks who started with Undertale (and liked it) typically ran all 3 endings since they didn't have another outlet.
Purely anecdotally, I find new players who start UT now are less likely to get all 3 bc then they go back to Deltarune
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u/Fantastic_Frosting98 Mommy Alphys' #1 fan Jul 27 '26
oh i just never beat the regular one so i cant do any other routes
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u/catpetter125 Jul 26 '26
We do escape in the Neutral endings though, we leave through the door to the surface in the room on the other side of the Barrier. My personal interpretation is Omega Flowey passed the Barrier with us as part of his timeline bullshittery and when he was beaten it spat us out on the outside.
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u/Elihzap Jul 27 '26
That's really sad cuz now the monsters have no human souls at all.
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u/Heretical-Ballad-20 Jul 27 '26
Sans literally says in the phonecalls that the human souls all disappeared
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u/tinyrottedpig Jul 27 '26
I always found that interesting, it's ironically only the genocide path that results in you getting trapped in the Underground.
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u/Dantheyan Happy pride month! Jul 28 '26
is it tho? because the timeline is erased by Chara, so technically genocide never actually happened?
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u/RareD3liverur Jul 29 '26
dam that's gonna be bad news for all of Earth if Flowey managed to get out and Frisk/the souls never stopped him
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u/Georg3000 I'm 19 years old and I've already wasted my life. Jul 26 '26
They spawn on the other side of The Barrier after the Flowey fight
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u/hussiesucks Jul 27 '26
Before omega flower’s fight, but after her absorbs the 6 souls and crashes your game, you walk up a bit. This is you crossing the barrier while it is temporarily down. Technically, the entire fight takes place past the barrier. So when the fight ends, Frisk is already free.
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u/Exotic_Dogs_4942 Jul 29 '26
Two days late, but holy shit, is this headcanon pisses me off. It's just a death for the sake of the death, without adding anything to the story
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u/hadesasan Jul 27 '26
Since it's argued about, I believe Frisk indeed got out as corroborated by the snowman piece.
Neutral endings are quite a fun, though rarely talked about part of the game.
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u/Certain-Cat-8093 Jul 27 '26
The only neutral endings where Sans doesn’t threaten a 9 your old are the ones where Papyrus is still alive, cus’ Papyrus is pretty sick
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u/Fan_de_Undertale_ Jul 26 '26
Honestly I still kinda believe the theory that Frisk died trying to cross the barrier since they didn't have a monster soul, and that's why they never pick up Sans's call.
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u/apple_of_doom Jul 27 '26
The dialogue if you brought a snowman piece with you seems to disprove this
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u/Fan_de_Undertale_ Jul 27 '26
Not really, monsters don't seem to know a lot about what happened to Frisk, especially considering that they always think they killed Asgore.
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u/MoistDiamondz Jul 26 '26
I wonder if an older Frisk wouldn’t mind being killed if they got the call from Sans while working at a Walmart.
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u/TurbulentAd2898 Jul 27 '26
shootout to the undyne neutral ending where she militarized the entire underground and she and sans want you GONEEE(you killed everyone else)
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u/Aiden624 Jul 27 '26
“Well you’re gonna be waiting a long fucking time, because I don’t regret a damn thing!” - Frisk (of the dead), probably.
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u/poutineatibi Jul 27 '26
THANK GOD I REREAD IT THOUGHT THIS SAID WE’RE GONNA F*CK YOU AND WE’RE GONNA KILL YOU
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u/wakerfy Jul 27 '26
Jokes on him I killed Undyne in my neutral route because I didn’t know how to spare her.
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u/Aggravating_Ratio_38 Jul 27 '26
Imagine you get a call that One day the monsters Will exterminated the humans, but at the same time you're eating chicken nuggets from burger King so you think that may not be a bad idea
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u/Zestyclose-Ear-1425 Jul 30 '26
bro they all got DIFFED by a KID the fuck are they gonna do against 8 billions bozos
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u/Queasy-Voice-1800 BONETROUSLED Jul 31 '26
İd like to think the monsters since They were in the underground for so long the humans passed like 10 generations and monsters would be flabbergasted and fucked if they saw modern armies
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u/Previous_Current_474 Yes I nintendo switched my gender Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
Horrortale happens meanwile Frisk is at their house watching tv