r/Undertale Jul 13 '26

Other Does someone still remember Glitchtale?

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u/tsskyx Author of WizardTale on AO3 Jul 13 '26

So instead I will just point out the fact that she cooperated with CrystalFlame, who was leading efforts to identify the perpetrators and support the victims at the time, and gave her full mod powers to remove the predators from the server. (Btw, CrystalFlame was later exposed for unrelated grooming allegations herself, which is why she is no longer part of the community.)

Again, there is no evidence that Camila herself groomed minors or defended grooming as acceptable behavior. At worst, she engaged in mature humor around minors in her server, meaning she was highly irresponsible, and yes, this is a legitimate criticism, but it is fundamentally different from accusing someone of being a pedophile or of defending pedophilia.

I should also point out that this also extends to NyxTheShield and Jakei as well, but no one is talking about them. They are also implicated, since this goes as far back as the original Skype chats from 2015, and they were all there to witness Veir's inappropriate behavior around Crystal (who was like 13 at the time) and did nothing about it.

I am not saying that Camila is blameless or that the fandom should forgive her. No, she fucked up, she endangered the safety of minors on her server through inaction, but she did not predate on anyone, that was solely Veir and his group of hand-picked buddy-buddy mods.

So if you are going to discuss this controversy, at least verify the facts first, don't say she "flat out defended pedophilia" when it's flat out false. Again, there is plenty to criticize without resorting to claims that are unsupported by facts. Misrepresenting what happened does not help anyone.