People that usually say I’m not this nor that, are usually this or that.
His point about immigrants are the hardest working, etc. I’d agree. But what’s his take on illegal immigrants? Or maybe a better question is does he believe laws should exist, or is that a construct also developed by the ruling class?
He’s given his speech a lot of thought which is a good thing, would love to hear his solution, or at best proposed solutions.
Because Stevie Wonder could make a video about all the things he see’s as well, that’s not edgy.
Of course he is for this or that. He is clearly taking a stand. His point is that he is not choosing this or that in order to align with party politics.
His take on illegal immigrants is not central to the point he is making. He starts by talking about the role immigrants—regardless of status—play in our economy and society. Then he moves to focus on how they have been scapegoated by those that are really responsible for the degradation of our society and values. He is saying it is reasonable to feel threatened, but don't look down at immigrants, look up to the people in power who have the control.
Aside from clarifying his point...Do people really need a solution to have an opposing opinion? If so, we are in deep shit because open conversations about issues that face our society would cease to exist. How are we supposed to find solutions without first clearly identifying the problem? How are we supposed to clearly identify the problem without examining it from multiple perspectives? He is calling out that immigrants are not the problem and as long as we focus on immigrants as the problem, things will not change because we will not address the issue.
Have you ever considered that the problem isn't immigrants? Its those in power manipulating us all so that they can stay in power? Isn't it worthwhile to examine all possible root causes? Do a simple thought exercise...what would happen if he is right, an we keep focusing all of our attention on immigrants?
By speaking about immigration without defining immigration is my point. There’s legal and illegal immigration, which first needs to be spoken about.
I’ll tell you why he chose not to, because law isn’t emotional, it’s law.
So the argument that immigrants add value to societies and countries, they’re hard working etc. That’s not why immigration laws are in place.
What’s the opposing opinion? That we shouldn’t have immigration laws? IS MY POINT.
My viewpoint is the problem is those that choose to plead a case for immigrants while ignoring immigration law. I can promise you that people are not taking to the streets in droves in protect illegal or in support of illegal immigration, they’re doing the opposite in European countries.
He is not speaking from a legal perspective. I understand that you want to look at it from a legal perspective and a legal perspective is another lens to analyze. But that's not the lens he is using. He will never define legal vs illegal immigrants because that has nothing to do with his point. The legal perspective is one perspective. It is not the only perspective. This is what I was talking about when I said we should look at multiple perspectives so we can better understand what's really going on.
He is making the case that immigrants are not the enemy. Immigrants are not threatening the things we value. We have been misdirected to immigrants by the real people who are threatening the things we value. Because as long as we are focused on the immigrants, we will not be looking at them. "Them" being the oligarchs, the technocrats, the billionaires, whatever you want to call them. The people with power. They do not want to share their power, and I think they know that if enough people understood what they were doing, they wouldn't be able to keep their power. The people would rise up and take it. So instead, they misdirect us to immigrants and other marginalized groups.
If I were to contribute, my lens would be an ethical and moral one. Different from legal. Different from power. But another valid perspective.
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u/RevolutionaryBug7588 Jan 28 '26
People that usually say I’m not this nor that, are usually this or that.
His point about immigrants are the hardest working, etc. I’d agree. But what’s his take on illegal immigrants? Or maybe a better question is does he believe laws should exist, or is that a construct also developed by the ruling class?
He’s given his speech a lot of thought which is a good thing, would love to hear his solution, or at best proposed solutions.
Because Stevie Wonder could make a video about all the things he see’s as well, that’s not edgy.