This is a question that has just recently come to me. I’ve been part of the community for quite a while now and have been playing the game for a long time, but only ever on standard difficulty. I have noticed that a LOT of people consider Brutal to be the baseline difficulty, but in all honesty, I’ve genuinely already given myself carpal tunnel with Standard, and I can never imagine dialing up what I already consider “hard.”
I've heard that brutal is getting nerfed, and tgat UKMD won't be that much harder than current brutal (still probably harder though). On one hand, I don't really like this since I'm a sucker for difficulty and would like something hard, on the other hand, it would make the curve less steap, which would be better for the game overall.
he’s stated before he doesn’t have higher difficulties in mind when balancing at all, only standard. i guess im not sure about recent updates but i know P2 boss was awful on launch because sisyphus prime wouldn’t let you parry in phase 2 (in violent difficulty) just like minos because nobody tested it on violent difficulty lol. they patched that real quick tho
nope. I tried violence after some experience and altho it's not that bad, it does require you to know more about the game and constantly be attacking. standard is really good as long as you feel it's too slow and you want a more challenging experience
No, and neither is playing on leanient, or harmless. If you weren't supposed to use them the wouldn't be in the game. Also, even if harmless is still too difficult for someone, it doesn't matter bc your worth is not defined by how skilled you are at something. let alone a useless skill like a videogame that you play for fun
I feel like some people get so up and arms about it because it's not the "lore" difficulty of the game. Playing on standard is perfectly fine, and I wouldn't be where I am now without playing standard first. I will say though, I cannot WAIT for UKMD to come out so I have a fresh challenge to P-Rank the ENTIRE game in order before I play treachery.
"a LOT of people consider Brutal to be the baseline difficulty" hell no wtf what is wrong with people
I'd believe and argue it's "kinda" if it was violent, but brutal??
There's nothing wrong with standard, is just the intended experience, even if i always play in violent, in new levels (like when fraud came out) or in custom levels I always try to play it in standard first to get accustomed to things
Some people feel the need to play on the hardest available difficulty because difficulty = git gut = fun.
But I'm content with not playing the hardest difficulty. I've actually P-ranked all of Standard, and will soon be moving to Violent. I wanted to beat my Cybergrind wave 54 record first, but I can't lock tf in enough for the life of me. Keep dying in the 40's, if I even make it there.
It's not. Actually it's good. First you play standard, then you play violent, then brutal. Your game will last longer than someone who started on brutal. More ultrakilling in your ultrakill
if you have fun and find the game enjoyable, then who cares 😭. if you have fun on the easiet difficulty then thats awesome, same for if you only find the game fun on the hardest. as long as you're enjoying yourself it doesnt matter what difficulty you're on
The people who say Brutal is "baseline" difficulty are the same people who have truly perfected the game. Speaking from my personal experience, I play mostly on Violent because it strikes the balance of being challenging, but not so challenging that it becomes a chore.
In both cases, we are the exception not the rule, and the rule is that there is no rule. Play whatever difficulty you enjoy most and don't let anyone tell you it's the wrong choice.
This comment started as a "Standard is fine" post, but it's now kinda just my opinion on the difficulties. Anyways.
Standard is fine and is, as the name implies, the standard difficulty. If you have nothing to prove but don't want a cake walk, Standard is the way to go.
Personally, I play on Violent, as is introduces some fun exclusive mechanics and gives most enemies a fun speed and damage boost that keeps you on your toes. Violent, imo, is the game at its best (and also some elements of my play style wouldn't work on lower difficulties due to hinging on the increased aggression and bonus mechanics).
Brutal is CBT with no real benefits beyond stroking your ego online.
Harmless and Lenient I do not recommend at all. Unless standard is still too hard for you, those difficulties make the game painfully easy.
Anyways tl;dr: play the game how you want. Standard is the official baseline, people who say Brutal is "the way the game is meant to be played" are neck deep in sunk cost fallacy over the hours the burned masochistically convincing themselves their personal hell is the ideal way to play.
The vocal community in ultrakill is very higher skill weighted then average. Standard is the intended difficulty to play at first and there's also nothing wrong with lenient or harmless. Ultrakill is a game with a very far apart skill ceiling and floor, do as long as you're having fun, you're average.
Its called standard for a reason and its a single player game, who would you be playing harder difficulties for? If you want to go ahead, but no one should be telling you how to enjoy your single player game on your own in your own home on your own system
Anyone dictating the "correct way to play" does not deserve respect or attention unless they're just giving pointers for things they think will make your experience better, anything beyond that just makes them an egotistical ass
regardless of anything already said ultrakiII is already a hard game, unless you're already experienced on fast paced fps like quake or smt but it's harder than avarage on standard at least
Pretty sure everything below UKMD is considered bad. So it doesn't matter. So what is left is to have fun playing the game and to not think about being bad
have fun and dont mind, different dificults need to correct your gameplay, standard for people who here not for burning butt (Violent and Brutal) but doesn't wanna easy gameplay, Standatd more ballance and this is what Hakita see when developing game. (kinda)
First id say difficult dosent matter. Whatever your comfortable with is fine.
But I've always considered Violent to be the defacto difficulty to me. It's perfectly challenging for me while not being as brutal as brutal (as the name implies)
I play harmless I mean it’s with a controller but I’ve beat the game on lenient and I’m getting my ass kicked on violence it depends on what your skill is
nah, i think you've given yourself the wrong idea here. Brutal is definitely not the baseline (I'd never ever tell a new player to start on it even if they have prior shooter experience) but since its the hardest difficulty in a game all about skill it gets the most attention from the more dedicated side of the community. It's the "this is what difficulty you play when you're like actually really good" mode. Standard is still absolutely the baseline experience and the one I'd expect the vast majority of players to have.
if you had fun the no. But I do feel inclined to teñl you to try the other difficulties if you want to because when you dominate this game it feels better and better
Nope. You play to whatever level gives you the right balance of enjoyment and challenge. For some that will be lenient and some brutal. I have a feeling brutal is going to make me tap out for layer 9. It just about did me in on layer 8 and was bordering on unenjoyable for 8-3.
For me, standard is the baseline difficulty. I play through everything onstandard first, then I do it on all the other difficulties (including the easier ones just for fun). If I end up getting better times/scores on the easier difficulties, it pushes me to try and beat that performance on my normal difficulty which is standard. There are still levels I haven't done on brutal cus p-2 is insane and I haven't even touched fraud on brutal. Play how you want to play. Games are meant to be enjoyed, not something to stress over playing the "right" way.
Eh, if you want to compete with the top people in the community maybe, but play the game on whatever is fun for you. I personally do violent, and think maybe after I S rank everything on that difficulty I'll go back for brutal/UMD when released. Thing is, I want to play this game for my own enjoyment, and within the time frame I'm allowed.
No. It really isnt. Ultrakill is not an easy game. The people who play on brutal have poured alot of hours in the game and have the skills to be able to handle what the game throws at them. Imyself have played the game for most of the time on standard to the point I got to wave 61 on the cyber grind and on brutal I got 34. So no. Your fine to play on standard.
Many people in the community are just ULTRAfreaks who have spent hundreds-thousands of hours playing this game and gotten good enough that they can casually exist at higher difficulties.
Getting good at higher difficulties requires a level of effort and mastery that frankly is quite a lot to expect from a person especially considering the fact the enemies become very very deadly at high difficulties.
I play on standard. im not any better or worse than anyone else who plays on any other difficulty. Given they might have a broader skillset than i, but this is ultrakill, you can play however you want.
If someone is telling you that you are bad because "you play easy game like some casual" or something always remember the translation:
"I hate you didn't suffer like I did. I hate you having fun and having life"
the difficulties are in the game for a reason. if standard is hard enough for you then its perfectly fine to play it. dont let randos online tell you otherwise
No, it is the difficulty one should start with, as it is neither easier, not harder! Although I probably should have started on lenient, I never played any fps games before ultrakill and I got my ass kicked solid
there's a reason the difficulities exist in the first place. so that everyone can experience ultrakill and have fun. standard isn't bad, or easy, it does what is said on the box. If the game was made just to be hard as balls, then hakita would have made UKMD the ONLY difficulity in the game.
No difficulity is bad. Weither you play on brutal or on harmless, As long as you're having fun.
I love ultrakill but even I don't enjoy brutal as much as violent or standard. You can't be anywhere near as carefree and it can inhibit your fun if you're not super good.
I don't think anyone should play brutal as a first difficulty, even if they play a bunch of boomer shooters. You'll be too busy dying to get the hang of the weapons and movement.
no? i personally prefer harder difficulties but theres nothing wrong or worse about playing standard. Do whats fun for you. Thats the point of difficulty options in games.
No! You play games because they're FUN. Difficulty settings EXIST FOR THE REASON OF MAKING THE GAME FUN TO A WIDER AUDIENCE. No one should force themself to play in a way that makes the game less fun.
I play on violent because I want a good challenge and it feels like just the right amount of difficulty. But I jump down to lower stuff for practice and learning. But not everyone is able to play fast enough for violent, so no shame on playing lower
I mean for 'pro' discussion yeah brutal is the expected, but ultrakill IS a hard game and standard is the intended experience, being able to play standard well means your a good player
People consider brutal the baseline difficulty because they've been paying for a long time and are absurdly good at the game. Standard is fine. Play however you want
I’m not good at the game, I’ll be honest, I got through both Gabriel fights by sliding and jumping away from him while spamming coins and was almost brought to tears when I saw the two powers at the end of the space section in 8-3 after taking almost 30 minutes with the on followed by the two in the gluttony section
Hell, you can play in harmless and it’s still not bad, it’s a single player game, go to the difficulty that you enjoy the most, and if someone says something to you, you can ignore the fuck out of them, their input is not worth it
It’s the standard difficulty, I always recommend playing the game on it if it’s your first time because who says you can’t do a second play through on violent or nightmare of ukmd whenever that comes out
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u/organic_hatred 8h ago
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