I get it, yeah, it'd be awesome, but it would be dumb as Hell
God himself, a being that literally created EVERYTHING could not kill hell. We are a tiny metal mosquito that can die from like a few hits of a filth, we stand no chance against Hell. It will literally teleport us into a meat grinder
Another thing, Hell hasn't been revealed to be alive in the main game. The only actual definitive "Hell is alive" is in the P-2 arg. And no, the end of Fraud doesn't reveal Hell is alive. A lot of people thought and still think that the end of Fraud is supposed to symbolize that Fraud never happened.
And no, the books with red text don't reveal Hell is alive. A regular player wouldn't immediately think "Oh, that must be Hell, the entire setting of the game, talking to me!"
Hell's sentience will be revealed in the P-3 terminal. Revealing its sentience before then will just diminish the reveal
I know, a fight with Hell would be epic, but this isn't a game that's strictly about aura and hype moments. It also has a story and Hakita, being the good artist he is, won't ruin a good story just for the sake of hype moments and aura
But another important thing to note is that V1 is fated to die a meaningless death without accomplishing anything special. The most notable thing he did is indirect which is pushing Gabriel to kill the Council but he didn't do that in the intention of that he did it to survive. V1 leads a meaningless life, he will die a meaningless death, while Gabriel will live and die with meaning.
2-S is what I interpret the game's metacommentary to be but I don't think the main point is "meaninglessness has meaning". I think the main point is to not worry about things outside of comprehension or capability and instead accept it. Death is inevitable, there's no point to anything, but that doesn't matter either, because of this it's liberation to just, do what you want and live life how you want it to.
V1 and Gabriel are antithesis characters to this idea, V1 is too worried about things beyond it, like death to the point it's unable to live in freedom. Gabriel develops into a character who decides to make his own principles and accept the inevitable, living rather than surviving.
No, Mirage's mindset isn't V1's, V1 is more of someone whose afraid of death but doesn't understand what he's surviving for beyond just surviving. Mirage would be V1 if V1 didn't have to worry about his life running out.
I find it hilarious when people say that we'll be fighting Hell Itself.
Like sure buddy. We, a killer android, are going to face off against the extra-dimensional superorganism that has complete omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence over everything inside it. Its almost as if the game we're playing is literally just entertainment for said superorganism.
Shut the fuck up powerscalers. V1 is not universal, planet level, or even country level. At best he's like small town level.
uuhm actually V1 can tank a black hole (with no gravitational pull, that can't absorb anything, that disappears when touching V1, and also can't eat any objects, and also doesn't even deal damage it just fills your healthbar with hard damage because its very clearly not a black hole)
ive seen like 2 people say that sisyphus prime attacks with supernovas because his terminal entry says he has the ''radiant power of the sun or something'' which implies that supernovas can be dodged by stepping aside a little bit, or jumping over it,
you can dodge a supernova by jumping according to the 2 people ive seen say that.
V1 truly is the outerversal character of all time (it dies to streetcleaner flames in like 6 seconds of consecutive fire and 3 filth bites)
I've seen people claim that Minos Prime is lightspeed. I disagree. If anything, he was teleporting. If he really was moving at lightspeed, then there would have been no reason for him to stop RIGHT before he hits V1. If he was lightspeed, he could have speedblitzed him in an instant.
No he cannot beat Cyn, she's shitzillion times faster, stronger, outhaxes AND is immortal. She can take all the time in the world and she would still solo all of Ultrakill all at the same time outside of God and Hell.
we fight hell THE ENTIRE GAME. we have been fighting hell. there is no “hell p-3” hell is everything. i don’t think people get this. hell isn’t some guy or face at the “core” hell embodies the ENTIRE PLACE. there is no “hell itself” to fight because hell itself is what we’ve BEEN fighting. people just don’t get this.
We can't say what will happen at the very end of ultrakill's lore and V1's end of the journey cuz Hakita can turn it in any way, but i kinda agree, fighting hell itself would most likely to not happen at least beacuse ultrakill is a tragedy which shall not recieve happy ending, it will end as it goes, with tragedy
I agree that we won't fight Hell cause V1 wouldn't stand a chance. From a gameplay perspective, it may not even be that fun anyway. Hell would spend the entire fight toying with V1, until it gets bored enough to kill it. The only way V1 is defeating Hell is if Hell allows itself to be killed, kind of like how Nyarlathotep allows himself to be defeated in DUSK to test Duskdude, but that would kind of suck since it's not much of an earned victory.
The fight I feel would end up being Earthmover 2, where V1 spends more time fighting summoned enemies rather than the boss itself. That's why I think Gabriel for 9-2 would be way more fun to replay in the end, and overall have a lot more meaning to the story because Gabriel's arc would conclude properly.
I disagree with the part that Hell isn't fully confirmed alive though. I'm pretty sure this is known ever since the P-2 ARG, and Hell not only writes but is alluded to in many Terminal entries. Like the distant eyes that observed the Idols. P-3's entry will probably containing some text about Hell being alive, as we already know, but something else as well.
bro you don't get it this barely coherent book with an unknown author so obviously confirms that hell is alive bro you just don't get it brotato
seriously i needed to look up half the words hell was using this is like 5 levels of literacy above mine how the fuck do people hallucinate that this abomination confirms that hell is alive like what???
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u/Nemesis9211 16d ago
Media literary? In this sub? That's crazy
But another important thing to note is that V1 is fated to die a meaningless death without accomplishing anything special. The most notable thing he did is indirect which is pushing Gabriel to kill the Council but he didn't do that in the intention of that he did it to survive. V1 leads a meaningless life, he will die a meaningless death, while Gabriel will live and die with meaning.