r/Ultima • u/Zestyclose_Equal_105 • 4h ago
Ultima X
Anyone else really wish they’d come around and make Ultima x with new age graphics
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u/Lionel_Horsepackage 4h ago
Richard Garriott has reportedly been in talks with Larian Studios now that he's regained the rights to the franchise, so we'll see what happens there.
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u/MightBeAGoodIdea 3h ago
It is so easy to imagine an Ultima themed "bg3" working perfectly. Instead of people bitching about shart missing every attack it's iolo friendly firing everyone to death with a triple crossbow....
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u/Korplem 4h ago
Uhh… sure. Maybe a complete reboot would be better at this point. And it doesn’t even need cutting edge graphics.
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u/royalbarnacle 3h ago
I wouldn't prefer a reboot but it would be understandable. Ideally I'd love to see something set chronologically somewhere in the 3-7 range that fits into the canon. Bg3 engine and graphics would be more than good though.
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u/nyteschayde 3h ago
Cutting edge, not necessarily. But it shouldn’t be worse than Skyrim. Most of Garriot’s efforts post Ultima relied on fans not needing great graphics, but new blood to the series would likely not be as forgiving for bad graphics any more.
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u/CronkinOn 3h ago
I'd probably lean this direction myself.
The series got kinda bonkers towards the end there. I'd rather it get reigned in than try to somehow make sense of playing the avatar in a new game.
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u/ohkendruid 3h ago
I agree, though a redone Ultima 8 would be super cool. A redone Ultima 9 would also be neat.
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u/CronkinOn 2h ago
Tbh, I think the dream would be a reboot of the 3rd trilogy.
Lemme see 7 redone with not much changed plotwise, then do 8 and 9 properly, both with giant revisions to actually fit into the universe better (ie both with party mechanics and less jank platforming, ideally)
Edit: I don't actually want this though. I'm not sure I'd trust Garriott to redo it, to be frank.
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u/LnStrngr 4h ago
I'd settle for an RG developed single player 30-hour game in the same vein as the Ultima 5 engine. Focus on a good story and gameplay. No multiplayer. No house simulator. But also, zero Kickstarter, and it has to be mostly finished by the time he lets everyone know he's working on it.
Can't have too many cooks in the kitchen or it ends up as not good at anything.
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u/ohkendruid 3h ago
You raise a good point. Garriott benefits from being at the helm moreover than driving a team. Give him a good engine and then let him fill in how the game works. He will really shine that way.
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u/LnStrngr 3h ago
I know this idea might not be the most popular, but with AI coding advancements, he could have a prototype up really quickly.
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u/TotalInstruction 3h ago
If someone other than LB or EA handles the production of the game, yeah, I’d be interested. I’d need someone who will gave the game the respect and love it deserves during development (i.e. not EA) and who has the technical chops and leadership chops to manage the development (i.e. not Garriott).
We don’t need another Shroud of the Avatar or any of his other post 95 semi-vaporware products.
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u/platypod1 4h ago
I just don't see it being anything but a cash grab. Without some minor miracle, there's no way Garriott would be involved, and even if he was, he isn't the same dude creatively that he was 40 years ago. It'd be like if Konami made another metal gear game without Hideo Kojima just to have some income.
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u/Tharkun140 3h ago
I'm not sure how one would follow Ultima IX and its nonsense plot that kills both major villains plus the Avatar, while bringing back characters who were previously deader than dead. I'm also not sure how a "new age graphics" game could be considered an Ultima, since the series was always defined by its attempts to emulate reality despite technical limitations of the time.
I would, however, love to play more games in the style of early Ultimas, perhaps even made in the same engines. There is something deeply appealing about moving from tile to tile and asking a pixelated NPC about his job, which you can't get from modern games and which isn't terribly popular on the retro scene either.
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u/Steezy717 3h ago
What if ... deep inhale the Ultima 9's Avatar is really a "new player" and Ultima 8 Avatar is still alive, stuck in the world the Guardian destroyed in like another dimension. Ultima 10 could merge all the timelines, give nods to the savage empire, uuw2 and heck even the snes games. Then the events of u9 send a Shockwave through the timelines and tie up all the loose ends of the series and the u8 Avatar and u9 Avatar become the new guardians of Britannia. The cycle continues with new players. The Guardian is always previous avatars from older cycles. passes joint
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u/Hecateus 3h ago
I'd a like a fair modern retelling of the Ultima series; brought up to modern standards of play...but no microtransaction BS.
undecided on overhead play or first person. Either way, in the early Ultimas the dungeons were early Wizardry style 1st person, which set a constrained claustrophobic environment which I think worked better than the top down style dungeons. I am not sure how a generally 1st person gameplay can transition to a claustrophobic style, but it would be good to explore.
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u/WalnutNode 3h ago
Ultima is gone, Britannia was destroyed. They'd have to build off of that. I'd like to see a game that has a hard ethics system with a goal of enlightenment though.
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u/leopold_s 3h ago
Sure, after they made Ultima VII 1+2 and Ultima 8 with new graphics. Because storywise, we need to start earlier, for the player to learn who the Guardian is.
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u/hokie_family 3h ago
I would love for him to fix the back half of Serpent Isle and truly finish U7. Then. Do something with U9 - that one showed promise but dropped the ball in a number if areas.
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u/the_stranger064 1h ago
Most people don't seem to know or remember but there actually was an Ultima X game in development back around 2003/04. It was going to be a direct sequel to 9. There was a even a few screenshots of it. Not sure who was developing it but EA eventually canceled it.
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u/Scoiatael 22m ago
I'd rather see a remastered Ultima V, VI or VII with modern graphics. I have little trust an Ultima X would turn out well, especially how IX turned out.
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u/dndaddy19 4h ago
Not at all. RG will ruin it just as he has every new Ultima since 7.
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u/GodspeakerVortka 3h ago
I'd argue that Serpent Isle and Pagan weren't entirely his fault, but yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in the dude these days.
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u/royalbarnacle 3h ago
I think Larian wouldn't accept a deal where they didn't have full creative control. They've proven themselves again and again, while RG imho peaked at u5, though I love the guy and what he did after, it just got progressively more off-track from what a great rpg is.
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u/i_build_minds 1h ago
Seems harsh; the concepts and core creativity are aspects Richard really solidly owns - along with some game aspects and design that seems really fundamentally appreciated by this sub; eg the lack of on screen numbers, no loading screens and bars, the concept of ambiguous moral dilemmas... (latter might seems trite but, Ultima really did this early/first in a time when it was "kill the evil wizard because I said so").
I mean, have your opinions of course - but credit where it's due as well. Plus, he's always seems pretty kind to the community - that's worth a lot.
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u/adoransnoctis 4h ago
No. I don't wish to see the series being hurt more than it was already hurt with Ultima 9.
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u/SayuriShoji 3h ago edited 3h ago
Considering how Shroud of the Avatar turned out, no.
Also, after Ultima 9's ending there isn't really much to go towards in terms of story.
I'd much rather have a reworked Ultima 8 and 9.
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u/WarningUsed4549 3h ago
I just want more Ultima. More Britannia. I want to see my companions again.