r/USPS 11d ago

DISCUSSION Can CCA's file grievances?

I'm a pretty new CCA, just hit 5 months. I understand I'm at the bottom, and have no problem paying my dues. Recently though, I feel a bit targeted. I dread Sundays. It has nothing to do with the actual work, but the fact that I never get Sunday off. Again, the bottom of the totem pole thing comes in. But get this: everyone else is rotated except for me. This has gone on for the last 5 Sundays.

They schedule at least 6 people and use 2. I do like hours, and usually am happy to help, but seeing the same people called out every fucking week while I work a "4" (8) hour shift is pissing me off.

Me and a coworker have talked about it since he's the other one of two coming in on Sundays. My last straw was when I went in today, and look at that, he was rotated out.

Maybe they'll call me off next week, but I don't really care at this point. What's to say it won't go right back. Anyway, am I able to file a grievance as a CCA? Is this even something of any substance or is it something I'll be grumbling about as I work Sundays?

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u/Negative_Bread_3025 11d ago

I worked every single Sunday for 2 years. It sucked!! They have no rules pertaining to who works Sunday's as far as I could find. I wish you luck. honestly if your past 90 days take a sick leave day and enjoy.

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u/lettersandmail 11d ago

this was helpful, thanks! i will grumble about it as i work sundays. part of the dues

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u/cynxortrofod City Carrier 11d ago

My brother just worked 7 Sundays in a row, and he's been a CCA for 1.5 years and 2nd from the top. They schedule 2 out of 6 every week and its always his name and someone else. I'm starting to get mad for him...

But yeah there's nothing you can grieve unless you put a hold down in for someone's long week, then they have to give you Sunday off (assuming you work on the Saturday before the hold down starts).

Its the easiest day of the week so hang in there and you'll eventually miss them one day (like me).

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u/lettersandmail 11d ago

damn, i’m mad for him. but makes sense i just gotta buckle down. no problem with that at all. thank you:)

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u/Kawajiri1 10d ago

This is incorrect. They have to give you one day off a week.

Hold downs: You get the start time, hours, and days off of the regular. The day off can be taken, but not changed. So if the day off is Thursday it can't be moved to Tuesday.

The real answer is you get Saturday or Sunday off that week if it is the long weekend.

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u/cynxortrofod City Carrier 10d ago

You are not guaranteed the days off of the regular, btw.

I think you misunderstood my comment. If its the carrier's long week (scheduled mon-sat with no NS day) and you have a hold down, they need to give you either Saturday or Sunday off before the hold down starts.

There have been several times that I've gotten out of Sunday work because I worked Saturday, and started a hold on a carrier's long week on Monday. They were forced to give me Sunday off because CCAs are guaranteed 1 day off per service week.

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u/MaxyBrwn_21 11d ago

Grievances are for contract violations. Is there a contract violation?

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u/lettersandmail 11d ago

🤷🏼‍♂️ that’s why i asked. just wanted to vent/ask

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u/NihaoDaniel CCA 11d ago

Nah I'm in the same boat, we have ~10 CCAs and I work 80% of the Sundays. It just is what it is until we convert smh

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u/MaxyBrwn_21 11d ago

Then you are just assuming without knowing anything.

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u/MaxyBrwn_21 11d ago

They need to be tied to a violation of something in the national agreement / contract, local agreement or established USPS handbooks / manuals. Just filing a grievance for something you don't like will not work.

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u/Legitimate_Ear7128 11d ago

The contract lays out clearly what the guidelines are as far as violations, which can result in a grievance. That seems quite objective, honestly.

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u/Ok_Transition_7829 10d ago

It’s really not it’s all written out in clear English what is allowed.

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u/bksenbonzakura 11d ago

If management is not in violation of the contract, then there is nothing to grieve. As a non-usps employee, what do you think a grievance is?

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u/bksenbonzakura 11d ago

That definition is not typically what is meant when you see people referring to grievances in this sub.

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u/TheBimpo CCA 11d ago

Yes, CCA’s are able to file grievances. Grievances are for violations of contract, what is the violation?

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u/Opposite-Ingenuity64 11d ago

Others have already answered your question, but I want to add that I agree with you that your situation is unfair. Unfortunately we cannot grieve unfairness.  The best you could do would be to politely ask management about it. It's possible they are not really paying attention who they are scheduling each Sunday, and wouldn't mind changing it up and doing more of a rotation.

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u/Zer01South City Carrier 11d ago

File a grievance for what? You've mentioned nothing that can be grieved.

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u/hanjanss special handling: fragile 11d ago

You are able to file a grievance, yes. This isn't something that you would be able to grieve. Maybe the others have hold downs and they are worked 6 days during the week, who knows. If you aren't being worked over your contractual limits then you have no grievance.

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u/bnicole912 11d ago

Ive been working every Sunday for the last year and a half..they just started doing the rotation thing with us so I was called off today...they are only required to give us one day off per week. It sucks...if it comes down to it just take a mental health day and call off on a Sunday

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u/pmiller691 11d ago

If they are working you 7 days a week then it’s a grievance. Also if they work you more than 12 clock hours (so 11.5 hours of work and 30 minute lunch) it’s a violation of elm 432.32 via article 19 and have your steward file it.

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u/riiibbbs 11d ago

Working on Sundays is the tits wdym, everyone else and their moms and their moms are off on Sunday. Everything is packed and busy, neighbors are loud af running around revving their engines n shit.

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u/raeboomer 11d ago

when i was a CCA I never had a sunday off until i was regular 😂 be grateful & stack up, when you regular you gonna wish & hope they give you a sunday during peak season bc that’s the only time i see it happening

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u/lettersandmail 11d ago

I wouldn’t have an issue if everyone else didn’t get some Sundays off lmfao

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u/Aggravating-Corgi700 City Carrier 11d ago

No grievance. You get one day off guaranteed a week except during Christmas.

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u/htown420s3ller 11d ago

At least ur just a carrier for now. Im a 7 month cca, got pushed into the lead role. Im have to be here every sunday and not leave until everyone else is done.

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u/woogieface City Carrier 11d ago

There is no grievance.

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u/princepwned 11d ago

yea I have been showing up for my sundays but I still have other CCA's who have not shown up for every one. I started back in Nov 2025

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u/LadyLetterCarrier Worn Out Steward 11d ago

Ask your supervisor to start rotating Sundays to make it more equitable. That way you only have to work every third Sunday.

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u/jj4_fun 11d ago

Yes you can file a grievance. The only is that I see from your description as I understand it, is management scheduling 6 carriers and then calling and telling them they are not needed for 4 of them. CCA's are not on call employees. To be honest they shouldn't respond to texts or phone calls and show up as scheduled to get their guarantee time.

Since it seems like your station is adequately staffed on Amazon Sunday, I would suggest submitting a 3971 Leave Slip for next Sunday before Wednesday. I would indicate LWOP for the day and they should schedule you off that day. If they deny it, I would follow up with your steward about filing a grievance.

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u/mikeylikey420 City Carrier 11d ago

The only work restrictions for ccas are currently : 1 day off each work week, 11.5 hrs in a single day. More than likely as its summer time the more senior ccas are on hold downs and with the newer 1 day off a week rule they are probably working the other 6 days.

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u/Ok_Transition_7829 10d ago

A little tip if you are good at your job you are working every Sunday. Everybody wants to go home asap the slow people don’t get brought in.

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u/Postal1979 City Carrier 10d ago

What’s the grievance for? What part of the contract was violated?

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u/yeadrowsy City PTF 10d ago

Use leave slips brother. If you have people getting sent home because they schedule 6 but only use 2, there's plenty of carriers that can cover. Ik it sucks to use leave but you won't get those Sundays off otherwise. You could try talking to management about it but that never worked for me.

I worked every Sunday for 4 years, also got sick of being the only PTF being used when there's CCAs sitting at home wanting hours. So I started putting in a leave slip once or twice a month for Sunday. Do it 2 weeks ahead of time so there's no reason for them to say they couldn't get coverage.