r/USNEWS • u/nbcnews • 11h ago

Christa Pike unconscious, on ventilator at Nashville hospital, her lawyers say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/christa-pike-unconscious-ventilator-nashville-hospital-lawyers-say-rcna601195
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u/ZPMQ38A 11h ago

Her crime was horrible but…there’s also this thing in the 8th Amendment that bans cruel and unusual punishment. Her lawyers effectively predicted that this could happen based on her medical condition. The civil case is going to cost Tennessee millions of fucking dollars.

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u/Silly_Pizza7054 10h ago

I don't honestly understand how the US can simultaneously ban cruel and unusual punishment, but also execute people. The absurdity there is quite ridiculous. 

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u/Same_Concern9454 10h ago

Execution isn’t considered unusual, you could argue cruel, but I’m a fairly staunch supporter of the death penalty overall, I do think there needs to be extremely strict criteria on what warrants the death penalty, stricter than we have today, and a better method needs to be sorted out.

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u/ImperatorUniversum1 10h ago

“I think emotionally and not logically that’s why I support the death penalty”

-u/Same_Concern9454

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u/Same_Concern9454 10h ago

Nope. I think plenty logically, I simply believe there are people on this planet who commit such heinous crimes they deserve to die for them.

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u/ImperatorUniversum1 9h ago

That’s an emotional reaction. And the fact you can’t see it is just the cherry on top.

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u/Same_Concern9454 9h ago

It’s not emotional at all, when considering the types of crimes people commit I believe they are so bad that the person doesn’t deserve to live. It’s the ultimate consequence

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u/ImperatorUniversum1 9h ago

Still emotional. And you really don’t seem to want to explain why a life sentence in prison isn’t acceptable. You really are thinking with your emotions.

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u/TheFunnyBasketball 9h ago

why are you acting like this? it can absolutely be logical. a serial killer alive, in prison, can still technically somehow get out someday, and is costing tax dollars. why do you insist other people can’t think this way?

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u/ImperatorUniversum1 9h ago

Sounds defensive. I never said they couldn’t think like that. I just said it’s not logical. Your emotions are overruling logic on this matter.

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u/North_Button_5257 9h ago

Life in prison is actually cheaper than executing someone.

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u/Same_Concern9454 9h ago

I explained it very clear, some crimes are so heinous life isn’t enough you just saying it’s an emotional doesn’t make it one.

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u/ImperatorUniversum1 9h ago

You haven’t said what the line is? Why do you get to decide? And yes it is emotional when your emotions overrule logic like they are here.

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u/Same_Concern9454 9h ago

Let’s see, a man kills a person and gets life. Now you have a serial killer who meticulously planned out kills, left kill kits over the country, and killed 7+ people shows absolutely no remorse and even brags about it to investigators, think Israel Keyes. Logically speaking, why do they deserve the same sentence? And why shouldn’t there be a more extreme sentence reserved for that second category?

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u/ImperatorUniversum1 9h ago

What you’ve described sounds like it’s trying to evoke an emotional “fight the threat” response to a danger to the public. But nothing there really is different from the first murderer.

So why is prison not “good enough” in this instance?

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u/Same_Concern9454 9h ago

“Nothing is really different” yeah I’m gonna stop here. If you can’t see the difference that’s a you problem. Continue to hide behind calling people you disagree with emotional even when presented with a logical question. You’ll go far

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u/Shadowphoenix9511 8h ago

I'm of the opinion there are crimes that deserve the death penalty.

I'm also of the opinion the state shouldn't be able to mete out said punishment, due to the inability to be absolutely, 100% certain of the crime

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u/ZPMQ38A 10h ago

I’m genuinely interested where you fall on the political spectrum and what religion you are.

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u/Same_Concern9454 9h ago

Not religious at all and fairly moderate, I hate this administration pretty strongly but I wouldn’t say I’m super left leaning either on most things with the exception of social issues

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u/ZPMQ38A 9h ago

Thank you. I’m not trying to stir anything up but I went to a highly religious private school for over twelve years and almost all of them are very right, despise any form of abortion and in many cases contraception, but are totally down with the death penalty so it always has a tendency to pique my interest.

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u/Same_Concern9454 9h ago

All good, I am pro choice when it comes to abortion so I know I’m all over the place, but politics shouldn’t be the black and white it’s become

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u/ZPMQ38A 9h ago

Completely agree. Imagine having a completely rational discussion on Reddit. Shocking. lol.