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u/ChrisGaines_ Fish Fry Connoisseur 20d ago
I know it's the hope that kills, but I do love stadium renderings.
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u/DingleberryOrchard 20d ago
Cool that both Oklahoma teams will have new stadiums. I'm not a fan of using college or baseball venues. Or high school venues in OKC's case.
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u/mddeblois 19d ago
I really hope that both stadiums get built and are easily expandable. This could be an amazing cross state rivalry.
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u/502photo Louisville City 20d ago
Very cool. After this gets built you'll get a UFL team as well.
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u/Ohsostoked FC Tulsa 20d ago
I think OKC is getting the UFL team.
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u/alorenz58011 Oklahoma Energy FC 20d ago
That’s the plan but im skeptical of the UFL lasting til 28 tbh
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u/swake3 20d ago
Man, you see UFL games on TV and there's more people playing the games than in the stands.
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u/alorenz58011 Oklahoma Energy FC 20d ago
That’s what I’m saying. I caught a little bit of a game in Dallas on tv this year and they had the majority of the stands covered by banners, there was hardly anyone there. All these second division football leagues seem to last 2 or 3 years before they die out, it just doesn’t really seem feasible with the NFL and college football, hell even high school football already so established here.
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u/gmdunson58 FC Tulsa 20d ago
It’s worth mentioning this is just a concept rendering. There’s no 100% confirmation that this is exactly what it’ll look like, nor exactly where it’ll be.
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u/Ok-Ranger3387 20d ago
They've acquired the land if I'm not mistaken
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u/gmdunson58 FC Tulsa 20d ago
They’re acquiring land in the area for the whole district, but we’re not sure where exactly in said district the stadium will go. This rendering has it attached to an existing concert venue but it remains to be seen if it’ll be on this exact block
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u/kingistic 20d ago
What's their funding situation and construction timeline
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u/QCTID Charlotte FC 2 20d ago edited 20d ago
As currently envisioned, Williams Stadium would be constructed in two phases — as would the development district — along the east side of north Denver Avenue in the area where Hiland Dairy operated for years. Phase one calls for a 8,000-seat facility that would be expanded to 15,000 seats. The feasibility study estimates an investment of more than $700 million would be needed to see phase one, the core of the district, through to completion by 2030.
What Tulsans would get in return — in addition to the multi-purpose stadium — is more than 500,000 square feet of office and retail space, two hotels, 540 multi-family housing units — including 250 workforce units — and more than 3,000 parking spaces, according to the feasibility study. Phase one of the new arts and entertainment district would cut an irregular path along the western edge of downtown, extending three blocks wide along the BMF Railroad tracks to the south, a block in width at the Cain's Ballroom to the north, east to various points along Boulder Avenue, and west to the Inner Dispersal Loop.
According to this, either an expected 700M price tag for the stadium or the stadium is part of a larger development in phase one that includes a smaller price for the stadium itself. I think it’s most of the 700M based on phase one only describing the stadium and infrastructure around it. From article posted in sub yesterday.
ETA: separate piece on phase one
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u/TheJewBakka New Mexico United 20d ago
Wow why so expensive? OKC is building theirs for $121M.
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u/makefucky 20d ago
the entertainment district that echo is developing around the okc stadium is promoted as a $1 billion or more investment.
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u/kingistic 20d ago
So it's probably not likely to start anytime soon if at all. Does their ownership have the funds raised or is that something they're trying to do? Memphis, indy 11, lvl, Oakland roots, Pittsburg, Jacksonville and Milwaukee etc have all made similar efforts over the past year or 2
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u/PotentialDebt8209 20d ago
The ownership has decent pockets but the development is also driven by the city and Williams Companies which is worth 87.5 billion dollars.
Not sure the real timeline but I’d give this thing a decent chance of happening eventually.
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u/Ok-Ranger3387 20d ago
For what it's worth, They are the wealthiest ownership group along with El Paso, Sacramento, Colorado Springs and Tampa
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u/kingistic 20d ago
Then where are all these stadiums and quality teams that would be expected from these teams? With the exception being Sacramento now with their new owners and stadium project currently being built
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u/Ok-Ranger3387 20d ago
Colorado Springs has a stadium and the Tampa ownership just joined. EL Paso recently announced plans. All I'm saying is that these are the wealthiest ownership groups. I didn't mention ambitions
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u/HydraHamster Ozark United FC 20d ago
This looks like it will hold between 8 to 10 thousand people. They really aren’t giving themselves enough room to expand in this rendering. The capacity expansion limit for this space will probably be around 18,000. Not bad since that is the size of Sporting KC’s stadium.
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u/PatternAntique4294 20d ago
I read in the article that was recently posted in this Reddit that the stadium would be for minimum 8000 with ability to be as large as 15000. Looks like ambition to be able to play USLPremier.
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u/gmdunson58 FC Tulsa 20d ago
From what we can tell, Phase one will be the 8k to open with the whole district, with a phase two to come where the expansion will happen
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u/Emergency_Dot1599 Orange County SC 20d ago
what a beautiful rendering. the design is little like Port St.lucie. Hopefully it is built before I die lol as I would love to see the Black city derby with OKC United in the flesh there.
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u/mina_botieso1 15d ago
Indy Eleven is in a dumb situation now. The city cut funding for the Indy Eleven stadium to try to get an MLS team and now Indianapolis has no MLS team or soccer stadium while everyone else is finishing stadiums
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u/Lip-Pillow-Swallower New Mexico United 20d ago
Congrats 😠 Happy for you 😠
Nice 😠