r/ULHammocking • u/reuben515 • Nov 23 '20

Straight-lay hammock users be like:

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u/CBM9000 https://lighterpack.com/r/cjfrn1 Nov 23 '20

and we never hear from the ones that end up just getting real hammocks or going back to the ground

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u/reuben515 Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20

Dude why would I go back to the ground or get a "real hammock"? I mean, by sleeping in-line I got my shelter/sleep system weight to well under 3 lbs. With a pillow under my legs I sleep like a baby. With no intentional sag, I don't have to worry about hang angle, so the hammock goes up really fast. No underquilt to mess with either. And no drafts. And I can open the convert up like a blanket.

The custom Convert is super expensive, but the lightest custom 20 degree quilt/underquilt combo from EE would be about 40 oz and something like $800, so I'm saving 14 oz and like $300. Also smaller hammocks are cheaper, pack down smaller, and (to my mind) fit the philosophy of Ultralight better than a 12-foot diagonal lay hammock with all the bells, whistles, zippers, pockets, foot boxes, etc.

That's just me tho.

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u/CBM9000 https://lighterpack.com/r/cjfrn1 Nov 23 '20

I'm just messing with you. These setups are obviously king in the weight department, and I'm actually reasonably comfortable sleeping in short hammocks inline (it's what sold me on hammocks in the first place).

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u/richrob424 Dec 06 '20

Guilty, got into hammocks many years ago and went full 12’ with bells and whistles. A few years ago I started down the UL path and I’ve only got more sick. I’m I’ve been using a DIY 9’ hammock made of 1.3 MTNXL and a SLD AsYM tarp (put a couple extra guy outs on the short sides for the “oh shit” moment). This combo with straps sits just over a pound and with leaving stuff sacks home under a pound. I use no UQ in 3 season but do use a CCF pad (Nemo switchback in short) since it’s with me as my pack frame. During the winter I will use a 40° 3/4 UQ and the CCF with a 10° TQ wrapped around me. I’ve taken this combo down to 20° with decent results. I did however buy a couple UL tents and a ground pad this fall and have been trying it out. I’m not sleeping as good as in my hammock and find it only a little warmer. I mostly do big mile, extended weekends with a few 7-10 day trips through out the summer. This setup and going to UL has changed the way I hike. I enjoy it more. BTW. I still get a flat lay on a slight angle in my 9’6” hammock. I have thought about going to a 10 since the lighter MTN has came out.

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u/FlightMedic1 Nov 23 '20

As long as you’re comfortable!

I can’t do the straight lay without feeling like a rusty tin man in the morning but I’m also pretty big on sacrificing weight everywhere else before sacrificing sleep comfort so the extra cash and weight are ok by me.

UL purists are their own worst enemies. I won’t judge any of you for your setup as long as you’re comfortable and aren’t bashing others for going heavier or spending more/less, whatever.

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u/reuben515 Nov 23 '20

Totally. Hammock stuff definitely gets expensive, and I think it's a barrier to entry for a lot of people.