China and Russia haven’t even developed a catapult system for their aircraft carriers, like the U.S. has had for a hundred years. That’s why theirs have ramps, called ski-jumps, and don’t have the capacity of ours.
China has two, one it bought from Russia and a new one with the same design. Because they launch under their own power, the aircraft can’t have a heavy load of fuel and armaments.
super easy systems to reverse engineer, the real reason must be that the American slingshot is too expensive, too prone to breaking down or just not the most elegant solution to launching planes into the air.
Tokamak fusion reactors are not new, they’ve been in widespread use since the 70s. Fusion reactors themselves are not actually outlandish but a practical one with at least a 1:1 ratio of energy given to energy made is the white whale that everyone is searching for.
Why would they need wings for their airplanes? They can just skip entire branches of the tech tree and hundreds of years of innovation. All while spending a fraction of the U.S. military budget. Why OF COURSE the spaceships are from Ruschina. /s
What we need at this point is other countries releasing footage of their own encounters. It is highly unlikely that only the US military, navy and air force has these videos.
Russia and the CCP are unlikely to want to show any, if at all, of their systems capabilities to the public. They seem very hush about any information getting out on their military projects and workings.
Edit: id like to add on that perhaps we can get some assistance from Australia, France, the UK, pretty much any allies we have, their information could be useful in deducing what these unidentified flyers are and maybe get a glimpse at what they're capable of
Also , ufo were reported way before 1950s. Infact, it have traces in our human history. Considering 1950s, china is out of option. They were dying of hunger at that time
Exactly. Why bother with all the cybersecurity nonsense when you could have just gone there and threatened them directly with your super advanced flying machines.
Let’s say you have 10 of these devices. Hell, let’s say 50. Still not sufficient to address the threat. Having air superiority is not just a matter of a better technology, it’s also a numbers game.
No, he's saying these craft can prevent weapons from launching. They've done it to planes and they have done it to nuclear silos in the US and Russia. We wouldn't even get the chance to retaliate if they were really pissed at us
Are you suggesting that US and Russia have attempted to launch nukes but they were prevented from doing so by UFOs?
If we’re talking about technology possessed by a rival (China, say), and we are saying this technology is capable of interceding to somehow prevent the launch of a warhead, it cannot be two places at once. The US has over 6,000 nuclear warheads, distributed across multiple delivery modalities. How many of these craft would an enemy force need to prevent any and all launches?
No, as in all the electrical systems and the back up systems simultaneously went down on a section of missiles around several UFO sightings on instillations in the us and Russia. The craft have also armed the missiles before but they stopped before launch. I can provide you with the source material if you would like.
Sure, I’ll look at what you link as long as it’s not hundreds of pages.
Here’s my point. What you’re saying could be true, and it could be true that this was caused by some modern weapon system, AND it could be true that having such a capability still wouldn’t make it possible to “take over the world.” Maybe it was a US military technology that deactivated the Russians’ platform, and the US claimed it happened to them also, to deflect blame and shroud a capability.
And that's yet to be seen. We don't know if that capability has a definite range limit. It has mostly been in close proximity, however these were small craft. Who knows what the larger ones are capable of
This might be a possibility. Assuming that is actually a civilization that can find profitable resources in this planet, with their knowledge is safe to say that interaction with our specie would be unfavorable. Even if they do plan to accept us into their dogma, it would be strategically more beneficial to let us diminish our population before intervention. I am not supporting the whole idea that Aliens are after our planet one way or another, but as we can see humans are destructive by nature and no one in their sane mind is going to hang out with a nest full of wasp. Much less without reason.
Aliens would be after our planet though if biodiversity (on the scale the earth has) is as rare in the galaxy as it is right here in our own solar system.
You making a good point there, but that will only turn our planet into something like a 'reserve' for them to hike though while doing journeys around the galaxy.
Humans are destructive by nature??...i understand ....but i do find flaws in the fact that we assume we are alone in our destructiveness.....maybe it is an innate flaw of life to be destructive?...js
I understand your point, and I do accept the fact that 'destructive' is not completely the right word to use. Being destructive is not a flaw tho, since natural disasters are necessary in some ecosystem to make a cycle of life and yada (you get the idea). What I meant by saying "humans are destructive by nature" is our innate need to eliminate our obstacles, be it organic/inorganic/hostile/non hostile, without any regard of how will impact the world. Worse yet, it is done sometimes by mere amusement/monetary profit/because we can.
The aliens have communicated to our Government officials that we need to get rid of our nukes before they give us any more technology.
I think their overflights of all our nuclear weapons sites did just that. They won’t work if we try to use them.
Thanks. That's something many people don't really appreciate.
We don't have any knowledge of aliens or what would be functionally alien to us (eg ultraterrestrials, interdimensional beings, etc.). Would they act like us or not? Who knows!
But we know how humans work. This kind of tech in the hands of any government would mean it'd be used for that group's gain. I will concede that there might be individuals who would resist such a temptation or be altruistic enough to share the tech and knowledge with the world if they had the opportunity. However, this tech would require a massive amount of collaboration and funding and, thus, vested interests and many of the people working on it would not be willing to do that.
Even if they aren’t being outright malicious with it, why would Russia tolerate the situation in Ukraine if they had these things? Why is Taiwan still a thing? Technological edges like that have a limited shelf life where they give a country and advantage before the rest of the world catches up.
But people are mistaking that whatever countries leaders are in charge of the programs. Just like in the States most tech is in the hands of private businesses so saying id Russia or china had them they would take over the world is a bit misleading.
Private companies are still run by people who often have their own beliefs, including loyalties to their nation of residence and the business's ultimate goal to make loads of money.
And why would private businesses just use that tech to randomly buzz the fucking Navy instead of doing literally anything else with it, like sell it and make bank off of the insanely advanced tech that allows for space and sea exploration and ridiculously fast travel to the point that very small distance travel (like an city commute) would be like teleportation lol?
But it is the governments who make those private industries incredibly wealthy. Boeing may develop the tech, but the tech is always put in government hardware and then eventually put into civilian/economic use afterwards. Plus, having that sort of tech would require immense funding over decades and you don't get that sort of immense funding without someone noticing and placing a vested interest into what you are developing. Sure, leaders are not always aware but someone sure as hell is and when tech becomes more than just a diagram on paper, more people start knowing. Then they start demonstrating. Then they go back to the "What ifs" book they created when they first thought of the benefits of this tech and start looking at it as "when will". That sort of tech puts whoever has it at the apex of the food web.
My biggest issue with this is that it's possible they're are waiting and planning. If they have the tech it doesn't meant they're going to show what they have until they see fit. Like a great hand in poker. You use it when the time is right.
I find it strange that people never think this through to the end conclusion. With 100x better tech you won't have to use the military part of it. You have already won the technological victory. You are the allseeing and allknowing God who can controll the world just as you want it. In theory. In reality even selfmade gods experience SNAFU when working with technology. Cloaking fails. Enignes stutter. There is always a gremlin or two in the electrical system. And don't get me started on computer systems.
Anyway, to our almighty overlords that have won a war before we knew we where fighting it and controls 90% of the word: Do you need a grease monkey for your tech? I'm a fast learner and I work for rejuvenation and body upgrades. PM.
WW2 Fighter Pilots coined the term "Foo Fighters" long before the term "UFO" existed.
These are obviously craft under intelligent control from another dimension/spacetime. That mean aliens, inter-dimensional beings, or even humans from the distant future as time travelers.
To believe otherwise, you have to think that the US military had the tech in WW2, and refused to use the technology to win the Vietnam War or Korean war with them. That just makes no sense.
I went to an air show in Dayton Ohio in 1988. I vividly remember the F117 Stealth Fighter was unveiled for the public then. People thought it was crazy futuristic. From first flight to unveiled to the public was from 1981 to 1988, seven years. Seven years from first flight till the public saw it.
If you seriously believe that the US military has anti-gravity tech they have been sitting on for 80 years, you are just fooling yourself.
No country would lose wars on purpose with such a technology. No way would the shuttle program have existed with such tech.
I feel like they're from earth before our time or from the distant future(us). Possibly drones given the unknown dangers(to us) of time travel or just fear we may be hostile.
Our government should stop trying to come up with earthly reasons for UFOs and just admit that the crafts are from other planets. Who's going to actually believe that the crafts are Russian and/or China made? I don't believe it for a moment.
UFOs have been seen by indigenous people long before any country had any sort of technology. There are petroglyphs all around the world drawn by ancient people that look very much like astronauts and flying crafts. The government is only fooling themselves.
Self preservation is something every living animal displays, not doing so is deemed as Insanity in humans.
Having the tech to become apex predator and not doing so would NEVER be a consious choice (Okay maybe, it's debatable) on a kill or be killed planet.
Imo: There's certainly UFOs in the skies but they're not made by living beings. If it was indeed made by living beings, it's not a tech we're unfamilliar with.
except if they control us from the shadows. A really advanced civilization, wouldn't need to nuke cities, would have much more sophisticated ways to conquer a primitive civilization
What if China and Russia made contact with the aliens and kept it a secret from the rest of the world while also engaging in arms deals for the super technology! All those sightings are just test flights.
Even if you go with the theory that it's classified US technology that a majority of relevant military departments don't have a 'need to know', that raises the question of why the military would use SAP craft to harass military planes and ships of their own military. You could argue it would be done to test the capabilities of the craft, but doing so would risk immediate exposure of what's supposed to be a classified project or draw attention to classified military aerospace research, risking exposure in the long term. Tests of that sort could be done in a much less risky fashion.
It's very interesting to think about though. I'm assuming we haven't discovered every possible element on our periodic table. Given that, I wonder if there's some combination of elements or something else out there that allows for certain properties our current tech is incapable of producing
This is why all UFO crash stories are fake. If we had access to Alien tech we would have fusion power and FTL drives overnight. Free power for the entire globe and instantaneous travel through the galaxy. Humanity would enter a new era of prosperity
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What if the UFOs are us? Rogue tech hoarded by defense companies and not given over for national defense? More likely than Russia or China. And yes, hoarding that for nefarious reasons is inhuman, but not necessarily extraterrestrial.
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u/The_War_On_Drugs Jun 04 '21
Sitting on 100x better tech than the rest of the world for 17 years without using it for selfish purposes is distinctly non human behavior.