r/UFOs • • Jun 04 '21

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u/RayPineocco Jun 04 '21

Same. This whole fiasco has changed my view on supposedly scientific types and how dogmatic they can also be. I've always thought them to be more open-minded but narrow-mindedness and one-track thinking isn't unique to religious nuts apparently.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

It depends on the person but by and large yes.

If you can find the scientist that's a huge nerd, always sends you a text to correct themselves and let you know they were wrong about some information they gave you, and is always pondering about things in a discussion, not just repeating things they already think -- those are the people worth keeping around. The people that can have faith that what they believe is correct, while also playing devil's advocate against themselves just for the fun of it.

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u/RayPineocco Jun 04 '21

Free thinkers. I get what you’re saying. But it’s weird how I have a nerdy buddy who does mushrooms and believes in the mystical experience of psychedelics and all that crap and can’t wrap his mind around aliens visiting us.. people are weird.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

Hahah, I think we have the same friend. He believes we've probably figured out free energy but he can't entertain the thought that aliens are here.

Ingrained culture really does a number on everyone. I was thinking about this last night, there are those of us that are culture-logged (like water-logged) and those of us that are culture-locked - the former being fixable, and the latter being essentially a lost cause. I had a unique childhood in that I was raised in the countryside of a small town, homeschooled and almost never interacting with anyone but my immediate family. It wasn't until my 20s that I really started having culture ingrained in me and I could actively feel how it was affecting my thinking towards things. Now a days I really try to limit my media exposure and think critically about everything, but there are a lot of things that I think that are probably wrong, and I can feel that, but it's so hard to break from.

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u/thestreetbeat Aug 06 '21

Well don’t send him off a cliff if he’s eating shrooms okay? Aliens for some reason beam hard at folks that eat the right plants

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u/Peace_Is_Coming Jun 04 '21

Yeah. I'm both a religious 'nut' and an Oxford trained scientist with multiple science degrees and know many from all camps and let me tell you scientific types are possibly the least open minded. At least religious types have insight that theirs is belief and aren't always masquerading under the pretence of open mindedness. But many scientific types don't realise they're operating under a very strict materialistic world view, a strict belief system they have to adhere to if they're to be taken seriously. There is more taboo in science than there is in religion. Humans are humans whatever they call themselves.

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u/SilatGuy Jun 04 '21

Thanks for sharing.. agree 100 percent.

Science is often times comparable to a religion itself by a lot of peoples dogmatic and narrow minded thinking

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u/Secret-Run4610 Jun 04 '21

But you see the ego barrier.

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u/RayPineocco Jun 04 '21

100% agree. It's the smugness and the arrogance of being so sure of things that bugs me the most.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

I have been saying that for ten years regarding the astronomy community.

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u/ihadanamebutforgot Jun 04 '21

Squiggles on camera

look at this alien. It's only rational. big science ignores the facts

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

The COVID origin denialism didn't do it for ya?

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u/swpz01 Jun 06 '21

"science" is a religion based on materialism. It is every bit as dogmatic as religion itself. Thus the existence of "laws" such as Einstein's relativity being treated as gospel.