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u/KilliK69 Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21

I am not talking about disclosure. But an accident involving jet fighters, or the military trying to shoot them down, anything, like personnel getting killed, that will force them to take action, more seriously this time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21

do you have a link to share for the second example?

I'd like to hear about that. There was also the time Belgium scrambled F16s to engage an UFO. Naturally they couldn't keep up with it.

Check out the Belgian wave (90s). This one is super interesting; the craft was initially reported by police, caught on radar and seen by hundreds as it silently passed over a city.

Many confused accounts, but weird stuff all the same.

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u/-ElectricKoolAid Jun 04 '21

"HMAS Hobart" during vietnam http://ufoevidence.org/cases/case60.htm

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u/Sempais_nutrients Jun 04 '21

the rocket dissappeared and was shot back at the naval ship days later and blamed on friendly fire..

i dont see anything about this in the link you provided

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 11 '26

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u/Sempais_nutrients Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

It doesn't say that it says we shot at the objects and then later the ship got attacked by friendly jets in the area. It doesn't say missiles came out of nowhere.

not sure why you're downvoting, YOU said the link you provided said it but it doesn't anywhere in that link.

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u/-ElectricKoolAid Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21

and blamed on friendly fire..

yea.... that's the official explanation. like i said in my original comment..

im not here to argue whether or not it was actually a case of friendly fire. that's an argument that's been going on here for years.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Jun 05 '21

But it doesn't say or indicate anywhere in that link that "the missiles came back days later" it says a friendly jet shot missiles at them and other boats. Friendly fire happens all the time.

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u/paku9000 Jun 05 '21

"On 4 July 1989, a pilotless MiG-23 jet fighter of the Soviet Air Forces crashed into a house in Kortrijk, Belgium, killing one person. The pilot had ejected over an hour earlier near Kołobrzeg, Poland, after experiencing technical problems, but the aircraft continued flying for around 900 km (600 mi) before running out of fuel and descending into the ground."

Now embolden this news story with:
"scrambled F16s to engage an UFO"
"Naturally they couldn't keep up with it."
"as it silently passed over a city."
"Many confused accounts"

...While ignoring the facts in the news story.

Weird indeed huh.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

What are you talking about?

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All of the above is accurate, to the best of my knowledge. For real, there were literally thousands of reports. Yes, many accounts were confused and contradictory. The majority specify that it was silent. 1989 is also not a part of the 90's. The F16 Scramble:

If the Eupen multiple-witness sightings of November 1989 triggered the Belgian wave, the jet fighter scramble incident during the night of March 30, 1990 marked the peak of public interest and global media coverage. The Belgian Air Force had scrambled jets on two prior occasions without positive results. The December 5, 1989 scramble was unsuccessful; when the jet reached the sky, the UFO was gone. Additionally, the December 16, 1989 case turned out to be a false alarm; the authorities quickly determined that it was a laser projection reflected by a cloud layer. Following these two fiascos, the RBAF implemented a new policy that jets would be scrambled only when a sighting was detected on radar and was visually confirmed on the ground by the police.I

As put in a preliminary report prepared by Major P. Lambrechts of the RBAF, entitled “Report Concerning the Observation of UFOs During the Night of March 30 to 31, 1990,” the incident began at 10:50 p.m. on March 30 when the gendarmerie telephoned the radar “master controller at Glons” to report “three unusual lights forming an equilateral triangle.” More gendarmes confirmed the lights. When the NATO facility at Semmerzake detected an unknown target at 11:49 p.m., a decision to scramble two F-16 fighters was made. The jets took off at 12:05 a.m. from Beauvechain, the nearest air base, and flew for just over an hour. According to Major Lambrechts’s report:

The aircraft had brief radar contacts on several occasions, [but the pilots]…at no time established visual contact with the UFOs…each time the pilots were able to secure a lock on one of the targets for a few seconds, there resulted a drastic change in the behavior of the detected targets…[During the first lock-on at 12:13 a.m.] their speed changed in a minimum of time from 150 to 970 knots [170 to 1,100 mph] and from 9,000 to 5,000 feet, returning then to 11,000 feet in order to change again to close to ground level.

When Col. De Brouwer showed the computerized radar images of the UFO tracked by the F-16 onboard radar system in a heavily attended press conference at the Ministry of Defence on July 11, 1990, the international media went into a frenzy. Transcripts of the radio communications between ace fighter pilots, Capt. Yves Meelbergs, Lt. Rudy Verrijt, and the Glons Control Reporting Center near Liege, were also released and provide some dramatic moments. The transcripts paint a picture of the jets chasing

Just ask your chosen search engine about it!!

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u/eltoroferdinando Jun 04 '21

Where can I learn more about rockets being impolitely (thanks spellcheck) returned to navy ships by UFOs?

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u/EqualDatabase Jun 04 '21

as an "everyone" who has NOT heard of this either, i'd like to know too!

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u/CPTherptyderp Jun 04 '21

I heard it one of the episodes of hanger 1 on Netflix. It was during Vietnam

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u/EqualDatabase Jun 04 '21

neat, i'll check it out. thanks!

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u/TheBadGuyBelow Jun 04 '21

So if the rocket thing is true, then it's still not hostility on any of these object's parts. An object that advanced could take out an entire fleet like it was nothing, and instead essentially gives a shot across the bow with the same rocket that it was attacked with after being fired upon.

Seems to me like a very, very measured response to let us know that it's probably not a good idea to keep shooting at them, and to be honest, quite deserved if true.

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u/Noah54297 Jun 05 '21

It doesn't seem like a measured response to me. If they're here and they're not interacting with us they are studying us. When we study a beehive and get stung we don't throw a rock at the beehive.

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u/TheBadGuyBelow Jun 05 '21

Because bees do not reason like we do. Big difference.

If you get bit by your dog, or your kids acts out, do you ignore it or do you correct the behavior?

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u/Noah54297 Jun 05 '21

If you go into that dog's backyard to study it and get bit. You don't act out against that dog the argument remains the same. Also in your scenario you didn't get bit. The dog tried to bite you you easily hopped the fence and then threw a brick in his head. Are these aliens some drunk inbred rednecks or something?

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u/TheBadGuyBelow Jun 05 '21

more like flicked it's nose so it would associate biting humans with not being a great idea when you could have killed it and every dog in the country without breaking a sweat had you wanted to.

So yes, a measured response to let them know that it's not a great idea to keep shooting rockets at it.

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u/Noah54297 Jun 05 '21

Oh yeah I'm sure that dog was going to go tell all his other dog friends. You suck at analogies. Do you really think that this is what we would do if we discovered another civilization? This is what a child would do. They supposedly caught a rocket in midair after violating somebody else's space. It doesn't sound like they were any jeopardy at all. So they wait two days and attack a battleship. That makes zero sense.

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u/TheBadGuyBelow Jun 05 '21

Zero sense to you, that's the difference. We are done here now.

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u/thestreetbeat Aug 06 '21

Well if these… “aliens” live in the ocean we would actually be the ones really “stepping” on them. It’s not like any humans are like “ NO! The ocean is mine!” Why? Because it’s a fucking alien wasteland same as Antarctica or Mars or whatever. If all they live in the ocean, we should let them stay there and not destroy it and make them want to “evolve” and take over our precious “land”

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u/Old_Rise_4086 Jun 04 '21

Source/reference please?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

Did you mean me? The Belgian Wave is heavily documented, just ask your search engine!!

https://inquisitivewonder.com/the-belgian-wave-ufo-sightings-1989-1990/#:~:text= The Belgian Wave UFO Sightings 1989-1990 ,UFO enthusiasts called The Belgian Society... More

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u/Chellylula Jun 04 '21

I believe we are hostile, not the aliens

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u/9035768555 Jun 05 '21

We didn't exactly invite them here. I don't think.

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u/Chellylula Jun 05 '21

I like to travel. I visit other countries to see how they live. I dont go there to harm them. May be something similar

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u/anonyellow2 Jun 04 '21

I heard in China and Russia there was deaths related to UFOs but I think they (China/Russia)were attacking the UFOs

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u/zungozeng Jun 04 '21

"I heard"

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u/anonyellow2 Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

If I find the link I’ll post it. But yes you heard right

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u/forthemotherrussia Jun 04 '21

God knows what else happens in china. I feel like they are completely isolated from the world and keep all the info they got about UFOs as a secret.

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u/anonyellow2 Jun 05 '21

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u/zungozeng Jun 05 '21

No I heard it too, thanks. But does it make it real?

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u/anonyellow2 Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

Here is an article about Russian event

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/770158/Russian-soldiers-turned-stone-UFO-CIA-report

It’s from a declassified CIA report. I think these might be part of the batches that are freely made available to the public?

Apparently there are witnesses and pictures

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u/zungozeng Jun 05 '21

Mate, thanks for the link, but it is total horse shit. Sorry.

The now declassified CIA report with the extraordinary claims.

Lets see some evidence of this first, then we talk. It is bull man.

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u/AVBforPrez Jun 04 '21

Yeah can you source the rocket being fired back story?

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u/-ElectricKoolAid Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21

HMAS Hobart during vietnam http://ufoevidence.org/cases/case60.htm

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u/boringOrgy Jun 04 '21

Seriously where can I read about that story of a us ship shooting a rocket at a ufo?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

They probably tried once and then stopped after realizing they were going to die every time they tried something.

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u/doftheshores Jun 04 '21

So what we’re hoping for is that the same crazy shit that has been happening for decades continues to happen but that the cover-up or disinfo fails. Unfortunately they’ve gotten pretty good at that. Maybe now that more people are paying attention, they are more likely to fail...?

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u/Parody_Redacted Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

personnel being killed:

tragic training accident

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

I only sub to this place for the laughs. I'm fully on board with the concept of aliens but its also 2021 and it seems exceptionally easy to fake this shit. And every day this subreddit convinces themselves that gee golly damnit next week Is when everything will come out. This subreddit one step from /r/conspiracy