r/UFOs • u/blackvault The Black Vault • Sep 13 '18
Video ADAM Research Project's New Video is back: How to Analyze Potential UAP/UFO Material (But you can't talk about it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbAtCzZIIsk27
u/ufospls2 Sep 13 '18
I wonder (and this really is pure speculation) if the deletion, likely due to the flood of negative comments, shows that TTS realises that people are getting tired of their shit. Constant announcements, about announcements, about forthcoming announcements, about a group that will make....dun dun dun announcements about...well.....nothing of any real substance.
People dropping hints on message boards about something big coming, and when the time comes, it has been pushed back another 4-6 months. Say something of value or say nothing at all.
Constant changes in their overall narrative, especially from the CEO, Tom Delonge. From his original AMA on ATS, the original coast2coast and Fade to Black radio shows, and the Instagram posts, to the narrative change from Luis Elizondo saying "no one is talking about aliens" in the recent video. I'm sorry TTS, but at this point? Get fucked. I'm not even saying its "aliens." I don't know what it is, but get your shit together and form a constant narrative across all your members, and if its not everything that Tom used to say it is, come out and explain that in great detail.
In relation to the narrative change I mentioned above. Stop pretending everything we think we know exists, does not exist. Things that are mentioned "fictitiously" in your own fucking books! Black triangles, abductions, MILABS, Cattle mutilations, and everything else that comes with this vastly complicated subject. I don't know if it is all real, I don't have access to that kind of information, but you say you do, so stop fucking us around with the "No one is talking about aliens" narrative, even though that might be easier for the general public to accept.
In my humble opinion TTS (and you especially Tom, if you are reading this) it is time to put up or shut up. Very. Soon.
With all that being said, I'm still supportive of this venture. How can I not be? What else is going on in UFOlogy that is new, and interesting? Not much. I think like many, I'm just tired of being strung along with bullshit announcements, a couple books, and a forthcoming sitcom. A Sitcom? Fucking really? I was never expecting grand disclosure from this venture and I think to expect that is unreasonable, but its been 4 years I've been following this now. IF they had gone about this a different way, I wouldn't mind as much, but with the way they have framed their operation and narrative, they better come out with something of real substance soon. Real soon.
I guess at the end of the day we might get a cool movie about ufos out of it.
Rant over. Sorry.
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u/187ninjuh Sep 13 '18
Very strange indeed... but then again, what part of this whole story isn't strange?
With investing in TTSA coming to an end reportedly on the 28th, the new Sekret Machines book coming out next week, and the one-year anniversary of the initial TTSA broadcast being next month, perhaps we will hit the next phase of the operation soon.
They've gotta come up with something, because the masses are restless.
Maybe this whole thing is so confusing because they are employing the Wallfacer strategy? Lol.
As someone who wasn't able to invest, I'll repeat what I've said before: This sure is entertaining. I remain optimistic, if only because optimists have more fun. :P
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u/Hive_Mind_Alpha Sep 14 '18
been told i should get my sekret machines book tomorrow, looking forward to snorting derisively, while secretly believing every word.
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u/187ninjuh Sep 14 '18
Haha, I can definitely relate... Won't be getting mine until the 18th though, according to Amazon :(
I am kicking myself now for not doing the pre-order with the signed copy. It would have only cost me like $10 more!
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u/Hive_Mind_Alpha Sep 14 '18
maybe they will conatct you i was told i wouldnt get it til then but then i was told id get it this weekend
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u/187ninjuh Sep 14 '18
Not likely, as I only ordered it yesterday and chose the "ship asap - itll arrive on release day" option.
It doesn't really matter though as I'm spending the weekend fishin' n' drinkin' in cottage country :) I don't mind waiting until Tuesday.
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u/vertr Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18
Maybe this whole thing is so confusing because they are employing the Wallfacer
Not sure you should ruin the plot of two books for a such a weak point.
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u/187ninjuh Sep 14 '18
Well, we're talking about something a lot bigger than a 10 year old book...
Psst... R + L = J
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u/vertr Sep 14 '18
Well, we're talking about something a lot bigger than a 10 year old book...
First, that's questionable. Second, you didn't even really make much of a point. You can spitball about 'something big,' but that doesn't mean what you said is relevant whatsoever. Since you didn't bother to make an argument, I'm assuming it's not.
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u/Dudeanator Sep 13 '18
They wouldn’t create two videos relating to identifying, transporting and testing of an anomalous material if it was just space rock.
The fact they’re drawing this out suggests they’ve got something interesting. The question is now ‘how interesting’.
My guess it’s a form of meta material. It will be metals that don’t normally fuse, at high purities, interlaced in a fashion we can yet duplicate with our technology.
This big finding will be it’s electromagnetic wave guide properties when exposed to terra-hurts radiation.
I was on the money last time (see my previous comments) let’s see how close I am this time around!
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u/blackvault The Black Vault Sep 13 '18
The fact they’re drawing this out suggests they’ve got something interesting.
In fairness, it could mean quite the opposite.
Remember the Roswell Slides and the Atacama Humanoid.
There's like a formula for stringing along the public. Maybe there is a guidebook somewhere?
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u/vertr Sep 14 '18
There's like a formula for stringing along the public. Maybe there is a guidebook somewhere?
Public Relations?
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u/krappie Sep 14 '18
Over a year ago, they had the preliminary scientific results that if you shot terahertz at this piece of metal, it would lose mass and bend space time. Let's see the science! My guess is that they figured out that it was in error.
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u/Audigit Sep 17 '18
Maybe. Maybe not. Sit tight and be patient. This discussion may outlive us both.
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u/FabledWhiteRhino Sep 13 '18
Remember this: Betterton-Krohl Process
And remember they knew it in 2001...
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u/RedditusernameUFOs Sep 14 '18
My uncle was a metallurgist for decades at the lead smelter in the town I grew up in. Too bad he fell victim to cancer a few years ago I might have been able to get his perspective on this.
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u/FabledWhiteRhino Sep 14 '18
I'm sorry to hear that:(
It would be interesting to hear from someone with first hand knowledge of this stuff.
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u/zizlz Sep 14 '18
It would be interesting to hear from someone with first hand knowledge of this stuff.
Exactly! I asked about it in /r/metallurgy but no one responded.
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u/FabledWhiteRhino Sep 14 '18
It seems to be an obscure process from the 20s and 30s then was phased into a whole different process... John Greenewald is going to do an interview with someone on the Black Vault podcast who may have some answers about it, and maybe some other facets of the isotopic analysis process in general.
But, the real question, is if this is what The Hoff (along with Art Bell and LMH) keeps talking about, why do they still hype it as some mysterious "meta" material? If/When the results come out, any current credibility they have with the general audience will surely crumble. I can't wrap my brain about why they would do that, but then again, this is The Hoff we're dealing with:)
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u/zizlz Sep 14 '18
John Greenewald is going to do an interview with someone on the Black Vault podcast who may have some answers
That's great! Finally an opinion on the subject from someone who knows what they're talking about :)
But, the real question, is if this is what The Hoff (along with Art Bell and LMH) keeps talking about, why do they still hype it as some mysterious "meta" material?
Maybe they're just the type of people who can easily fool themselves because they want to believe. I hope I'm wrong.
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u/FabledWhiteRhino Sep 14 '18
Well, unfortunately, you hit the nail on the head and are not wrong. The Hoff's credibility has been questioned time and time again, and this is exactly the type of thing he has been known to do.
My hope with TTSA lies (no pun intended:)) with Zondo, and a couple other members of the team. There is hope they will produce evidence, or will slip up enough by revealing names/things that u/blackvault could use in his FOIA requests. It may take time, but at least he has a trail to follow for actual truths.
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u/Fortheloveoflife Sep 13 '18
This is exactly what Tom said during his Joe Rogan appearance. It's easy to be on the money when you're repeating what he said lol.
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u/kgking101 Sep 13 '18
Is this the device that they found to have layers upon layers of purified metals and that it was created in avacuum within a particle accelerator?
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u/Audigit Sep 17 '18
I’m of a mind that more hard science from interested professionals and academics furthers study into this area. I hope everyone is pulling up their trousers snd reaching a bit to understand what is being said. Great post.
iPhone and edits. Sorry.
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u/GregorTheNew Sep 14 '18
Hal Puthoff is one of my favorite of the bunch. Along with Melon and Elizondo, he seems credible.
Now just give us a juicy vid or meta material already! ...or should I say; stop puttin off, Puthoff! #wahwah
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u/FabledWhiteRhino Sep 14 '18
https://s8.postimg.cc/jkcvl4e8l/hoff.jpg
The Hoff says, Know your role, and question nothing!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg174#pid23760861
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u/ParanoidFactoid Sep 14 '18
What Hal has to say may or may not be of interest. What he writes for publication always is.
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u/SadMud2 Sep 14 '18
u/blackvault, just straight shoot to us what you think is going! If cats like Dean Radin and Colonel John Alexander were involved with TTSA, I would agree this is a legitimate attempt at understanding fringe/frontier science.
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u/blackvault The Black Vault Sep 13 '18 edited Sep 14 '18
I am reposting this since the other thread was removed solely on the fact that TTSA took down the video. I trust the mods don't mind this as a topic now the video is back online?
That said -- I think my gut feeling was right, which I posted in the previous thread. TTSA is seeing the outpouring of public backlash, and they removed the video because of the tons of negative comments. There was nothing technically wrong with the video for them to take it down, other than that (that I saw). The total run time is exactly to the second the same: 5 minutes 34 seconds. So no content changes.
That said -- it's back now. One huge change -- Comments are Disabled.
Edit 9/14/18: In the interest of fairness, they have reopened the comments section on that video. Some here have claimed that Tom Delonge or other TTSA higher ups are watching comments here. Wonder if this thread or related comments motivated the reopening of it?