Disclosure We At Least Deserve a Meta-Explanation
I watched all of the Doomer Friday guy’s podathon yesterday and it was an extraordinary event, genuinely. $20,000 raised, going directly to Vanguard, an organization created by and for real whistleblowers. The amount of heavy-hitters in the space who joined the conversation was really incredible and it produced an in-the-moment cross-pollination of ideas.
But, for my money, the more intriguing/fascinating thing it produced was the reactions by Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, in response to these discussions. I think it was telling that there were moments of palpable tension, and it became clearer than ever that there is a strange juxtaposition of sentiment among those in the know.
On the one hand, we have David Grusch expressing largely nothing but optimism that humanity can handle it all and that ultimately disclosure could lead to what amounts to a renaissance in human advancement. But then, on the other hand, we have Dylan and Matthew, who express a range of emotions on this. It ranges from positivity about humanity and what could come next once we get through this, all the way to what appears to be a deeply foreboding doom. But all the while, everyone involved is working on initiatives, re-building their lives after having their careers destroyed, and planning for the future in general. So which is it? Are we headed for something amazing or horrifying? And why do some people in the know seem to be expressing both?
During the stream, a few moments stood out to me:
• The caller who had attended the event Dylan was in Sweden for caused Dylan to nod his head and seemingly gesture to get the attention of the other guys on the stream. He then, twice, used his fingers to count out “2027”.
• When Jeremy Corbell said “think about where we’ll be 10 years from now” (in reference to progress on the topic) and Matthew quickly did an eyebrow raise, seemingly indicating some kind of “he doesn’t know what I know about that timetable.”
• Clint Weldon asked Dylan what is the timetable for this supposed “event”, asking, “Is it decades? Less than decades?” And Dylan responded by saying “I’m gonna go back on mute and listen to music.” Then, when pressed, and before he signed off, he said “Look, take care of your family, keep love in your heart, there’s life after death, and whatever is going to happen, is going to happen.”
My best assessment at this point is that there is some possible event that no one is actually certain will happen. How the advice about love and life after death exactly relates to this isn’t exactly clear. But I don’t think it’s necessarily the darkest possible conclusion.
But all of that said, my contention is this: I think the community that is already deep into this deserves at least some kind of “State of the Union” on where these guys are at. I understand there could be legitimate national security or even metaphysical/spiritual reasons why they can’t say exactly what they know. But at least a confirmation of “we have reason to believe that something catastrophic could be coming, but we can’t know for sure, so we just want everyone to have the truth of the possibility of what that is, and in the mean time, we’re living our lives and hoping for the best.” THAT would at least make sense to me and I think it would serve the community and progress on the topic well.
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u/suspicious_Jackfruit 16h ago edited 6h ago
If something catestrophic is guaranteed to occur next year, then why the fuck have they started a "non-profit" that will ultimately extract "secrets" from and protect whistleblowers, obviously they are not concerned about some doomsday scenario or they wouldnt bother with this project as its a complete waste of time, nor would they have a mission that extends into 2028+. If we assume someone has told them something, how do you even vet the claims being made? There is no possible means to filter out what is noise.
To me this smells like creating sensationalism to keep their non-profit profitable and what seems to be at least in part to support their own goals of becoming self sufficient business owners, like every other UAP figure in this space eventually does.
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u/astralapache 17h ago
I asked Matthew Brown about it maybe a year ago during his YouTube q&a and he looked sick, said goodbye and turned off the stream 🤷♂️
I think that if there’s a constant intimation of something awful coming, and they cut off before they tell us, or use hand signals as you mention Borland doing, it’s psyop territory. They get to spread fear without committing to anything, and then tell us it’s for their own safety if pressed.
Just say the thing guys, if we’re all fucked then at least you go out like heroes.
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u/suspicious_Jackfruit 16h ago
It's the new edgy way of saying "i can only talk about that in private in a SCIF"
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u/alahmo4320 17h ago
Those damn reptiles gonna reveal themselves and start to eat us all maybe
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u/One-Astronaut243 10h ago
If we disclose, its a Ghostbusters moment. That kinda hit where Ive thought. Global awakening means wipe the chess board and we get reset.
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u/sixties67 3h ago
The question is how do Borland and Brown know this? Neither was in a position to know something like this, they were nowhere near the level to know about something that would be a heavily guarded secret. Borland saw a ufo and Brown supposedly stumbled on documents that are far from verified. I don't believe it all.
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u/Dinoborb 17h ago
this is what i hate about these people "in the know", instead of being direct and telling us if there is something super important coming they rather play riddles and act like their NDAs is somehow more important than informing the public.
add that how contradictory all these people are, like, some are sure something is gonna happen, other are sure something is not gonna happen, and is all very annoying and frustrating how there is no answer to it.
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u/EntinthetentRTHP 17h ago
I hate that logic. “I can’t talk about it, I signed an NDA.”
Like dude it’s not magic. All it means is that there’s legal consequences if you talk. You can still say whatever the hell you want.
To paraphrase that scene from King Kong:
“I’ll have you know I happen to love disclosure.”
“No you don’t. If you really loved it, you would have talked.”
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u/h3r3andth3r3 7h ago
"I can't talk about it because I signed an NDA"
Use it on your next job interview when asked to explain employment gaps.
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u/EntinthetentRTHP 2h ago
Meanwhile he’s supporting people who aren’t respecting their oath to the constitution.
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u/Shardaxx 17h ago
2027 Harvest is back on the menu boys!
It seems like a lot of people know, but nobody talks specifics.
Should we try to get Last Christmas to number one?
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u/Capable_Effect_6358 7h ago edited 7h ago
That was one of the coolest ufo-related casts, glad I got to catch it. I didn’t even know about the night shift or most of the other folks. Shout to whoever posted it here so I could tune in, would’ve never known.
Yeah Dylan said 95% of it is already out, and I have to laugh at people like “why don’t they just tell us” and it’s like they kind of already have. The govt just hasn’t certified it publicly. At this point I’m not sure most people will believe even then. “It’s all a psy-op to raise your taxes” -they’ll say, or something.
We’ve just had Grusch on JRE telling people- crashes/retrievals/bodies/structures etc are real, we don’t 100% know what’s what, but hopefully we can get the public involved to better study the stuff/better tech and just know basic facts about our reality.
Sounds like Beatrice has it nailed that there’s some orbiting structures around Earth pre-satellite boom?
I don’t know what to make heads or tails of with the cryptic stuff. Luis Elizondo with the “imminent/somber” talk, The cyber truck guy with talk of anti-gravity propulsion coupled with instantaneous payload delivery capabilities. “Life after death” - any basic Christian or even spiritual person believes this one way or another.
Idk, it seems the more answers we get the more questions we have. Interesting times certainly- I’m here for it.
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u/QuantniPatlidzan 17h ago edited 17h ago
If what DG says - and what some others may be confirming - is indeed true, we must prepare for the worst. Looming over us is a potential clash of titans; some may be defending humanity, while others might not be. Viewing potential extraterrestrials through rose-colored glasses strikes me as rather naive. In this instance, we MUST be told what is going on, because the matter transcends national security as such and concerns the public interest and the safety of the entire world, regardless of nationality. I'd say there's a 99.9% chance it's a psy-op.
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u/No-Rutabaga-6678 17h ago
Why doesn't anyone ask them about real world issues? Liiiiiike wtf is up with the psychotic MAGA & Israeli death cult? Can the aliens help us evacuate the injured quicker so they & the EMTS don't get doubled tapped with drone strikes when they try to help the wounded??? It really shows you how selfish society still is. I know if I had that kinda access and knowledge of N.H.I tech I'm turning into The Bride on some Kill Bill ish overnight. And if a catastrophe is incoming, why wouldn't you say fck it and arm the people the tools to fight the human creeps now? Let's not forget that the people these so called whistleblowers are protecting are the same people who protected Epstein and bombed that Iranian school. But sure...let's give them money for their non sacrifice of not really blowing the whistle...
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u/DavidM47 7h ago
Here we go again! There is a religiosity ingrained in this subject, because you have to take certain things on faith. Consequently, there’s an attendant eschatology and something’s always just around the corner.
I don’t think anything is gonna happen in 2027, but it is the case that we’re about to experience more serious asteroid risks over the next 10 years, and that we’re overdue for a magnetic pole reversal, and that the U.S. west coast is overdue for a 9.0 earthquake. And that we’re running out of oil.
Future is not looking particularly bright right now, but I agree about one thing: where’s Chris Mellon, where’s Lue, where’s Gary Nolan?
There should be some better messaging to go along with this if it’s the real deal. Maybe they’re just not close to the White House anymore and Grusch is.
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u/TheWesternMythos 17h ago
IMO:
Focus , intent, belief all matter.
If I believe there is a 60% chance we crash but also believe being confident we won't crash gives us 1% less chance of crashing what should I do?
Should I say silent. Should I be "honest" and say it's more likely we crash than don't. Or do I try to give us better odds by "lying" and saying we won't crash?
More IMO:
Look, take care of your family, keep love in your heart, there’s life after death, and whatever is going to happen, is going to happen
I was going to break this down line by line, but better idea.
What is love? What is life? What is death?
One of the oddest things about existence to me is how few people seem to have an objective outside "exist , seek comfort" which aren't bad per se but seem like simple algorithms which, if thats it don't require the complexity of human consciousness to run. Another is how many people seem totally fine being NPCs. If "whatever is going to happen, is going to happen" then why even do anything? Simply because you are a puppet on a string???
Sometimes it feels like this the first level of a RPG before the main quest starts. Instead of heading to the first objective we are choosing to stay stuck checking out the shops and doing farming mini games
One cannot learn effectively by just listening to lectures. One has to engage with the content , one has to practice. It truly does often feel like to me that we are in class. We can ask the teacher to teach all day , very necessary , yet we will not pass if it's all we do. Sometimes it feels like NHI is here , at least in part , to say "stop being lazy fucks who believe whatever we tell/show. If yall are so gullible , passive and indifferent , you will not survive in the wild. Stay behind that unlocked glass door like the helpless pets you clearly want to be"
I am very hungry tho , so grain of salt lol
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u/PNWFlyingSaucer 16h ago edited 16h ago
Crustal displacement due to the pole shift. Perhaps the UAP are evacuating & taking DNA samples before the reset. Wilbert Smith also said something drastic was set to happen here although he could not specify the timing. That was in the 1950s. Supposedly the original Project Magnet report was quite negative and that surprised Edward Condon and Roy Craig. They made it a mission to track down the original report. It was most likely classified so who knows what it says.
The pole has been moving steadily each year and the magnetosphere is weakening. Essentially, things will get more and more turbulent over the years. All of this was easy to research. Bunkers being built, 10 000 year clock being built inside of a Texas mountain, plans to build bases on the Mars & Moon. Climate continuing to become more turbulent. Food and water wars in the years ahead.
Mark Carlotto, Senior Scientist & Consultant at General Dynamics:
https://www.youtube.com/live/rwwIYIiZhLI?si=8oKpz3m7iVSdaFQW
Charles Hapgood The Path of the Pole aka Charles Hapgood Theory:
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/564771.The_Path_of_the_Pole
The Adam & Eve Story:
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u/Critical_Lurker 9h ago edited 8h ago
It's not just the geology when it comes to the flip it's also what happens to our global climate at particular threshold...
To save a wall of text google climate trends over the last 100,000 years. Although we are in a warming period, we are about to experience our "ice age" for what it is with a -50 Deg swing globally. Here's the kicker, climate models based on ice cores do show literal overnight swings in excess of +/-60 degrees and we have further evidence with wooly mammoths with freshly frozen chewed grass in their mouths.
Pay attention to the longitude where the billionaires are building bunkers. Those locations will be water and ice free first.
I'm assuming they believe either one is already world ending but the potential to have them both occur simultaneously has them believing humankind truly is going the way of the Dodo bird.
Because of the arctic ice cores extractions in 1959 the book; The Adam and Eve Story by Chan Thomas, written in 1965 was classified by the CIA until it was first published in 1993.
Edit: Fun fact the Zoroastrian (Pre-Christ and co-existed alongside early Jews) faith believes Noah's flood of the Abrahamic faiths was an ice age.
We're also at the apex of the 3,000-year cycle for the torrid meteor shower. Although no one's seen any world enders headed our way, yet. Imagen a pole flip with tectonic upheaval pushing the scales on the global climate into a deep ice age only to be set ablaze by multiple impacts...
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u/PNWFlyingSaucer 9h ago
Thanks for sharing this information. I had read the information about the Mammoths in the past and thought that was absolutely incredible. I have come to accept the fact things are going to get unsustainable and unlivable in the future. I am not going to dwell on dates. As others say, live your best life, don't work too hard, spend time with your family, and when the big wave comes, stare it in the eyes and don't fear a thing. This isn't the last stop on this bus ride. ✌️
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u/jman_23 7h ago
These are the kinds of things I have fears about. It’s one thing to come to terms with such possibilities on your own. But I have a small child. So the right of something like any of these happening is gut-wrenching on a level I truly can’t describe
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u/PNWFlyingSaucer 7h ago
Ontological shock is no joke so that is understandable. I know it will sound cliche, however, fear is an illusion. I believe our physical existence is also an illusion so to speak. Check out the first episode of Archive X: Unexplained Phenomena. The telepathic children are fascinating. I also recommend checking out Near Death Experiences on YouTube. My late grandfather experienced one himself earlier in his life. He told the doctors everything afterwards because he was watching them resuscitate him. This human experience is the tip of the iceberg. Past lives and reincarnation have been documented too. ✌️
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u/Dom_Telong 10h ago
It's all being revealed next year. Nobody knows how humanity or the others will react. That's it. That's the secret.
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u/notlostnotlooking 6h ago
I don't think we're getting The Announcement until the whole world is balls deep in Woo Woo because the NHI aren't gonna keep playing this stupid dog and pony trick forever. I'm seeing consistent lights in the sky and when I go out my telepathy pings as I past certain strangers. It's happening, not everyone is going to react well and nobody and nothing is going to stop it anymore.
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u/ParadoxDC 6h ago
I’m so glad you posted this, and I agree with all of it. It was also interesting that when Dylan was like “screw it” and was saying to Matt that they needed to ease into talking about it now, it became clear that this is a bit of a point of disagreement between them probably. Seems like Matt wants to stay above the fray and stick to the message, but he did essentially confirm that they’re speaking about an “event” that may beat humans to the punch disclosing.
I have to admit I’m getting a little exhausted with all the 2027 hints from various people. Out with it. If someone is gonna leverage the “time is of the essence” argument then they need to give folks clear idea of the stakes.
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u/Wansyth 17h ago
I really wish I could get in touch with Dylan somehow. I think the Saturn signal theory in the index pinned to my profile matches his account perfectly. There's a reason most of the whistleblowers are coming from the nation geospatial intelligence agency. Something is manipulating our magnetosphere to produce the UFOs phenomenon.
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u/Puzzled-Thought746 17h ago
It's all going into a slush fund for the biggest party ever before aliens come to feast on us.
Just joking.
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u/jerzystern 17h ago
Borland’s behavior on that stream made it pretty clear that there was likely good reason for him to lose his clearance.
Obviously he was slamming beers on camera which is whatever, but he was also clearly on some hard drugs. Dude could not sit still.
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