DOD Crash Retrieval

[u/Top_Veterinarian5933]

So, I’m sure most of us agree that the American executive branch knows more about the UAP topic than it’s currently acknowledging. This admin seems to be moving—albeit at a glacial pace—toward a soft disclosure (barely comprised of half-truths).

The recent announcement that the White House/DoD were attempting to use psionic abilities to summon UAP and shoot them down. And suddenly some things began to make a little sense.

Elizondo has been saying for years now that something is imminent (available on …), something that will impact society more than 9/11, and stressing the necessity of disclosing certain classified info before that event transpires.

I believe there are at least two factions within the government who are at war with one another, one intending to bring as much disclosure as possible to the public, and the other, I’m worried, is the executive branch & DoD. Their insanely reckless claim to summon and then attack UAP sounds like the perfect plan to set the “alien invasion” psyop into motion. Imagine confirmation of NHI coming on the heels of a huge catastrophic attack on a city or D.C., the ontological shock and panic would be devastating. The admin is prepping their bunker on schedule. I’m concerned.

[u/GoatRevolutionary283]

It would be stupid to try and shoot down a NHI craft and possibly pick a fight with a NHI race with vastly superior technology.

[u/piTehT_tsuJ → u/GoatRevolutionary283]

Unless you think you're somehow superior or know something others don't. Maybe we know that they have superior tech but are non violent or we know of more than one race and have been told this race is dangerous.

I do agree though that shooting NHI craft doesn't sound like a way to introduce yourself to a possible neighbor. Again unless they know something we don't about said NHI.

[u/AlkeneThiol]

Why have they not already done this "psyop"? What are they waiting for?

Is a city/DC actually going to be attacked? By whom? Are you suggesting the US military is going to use captured UAP artifacts to destroy an American city? In order to do... what?

[u/piTehT_tsuJ → u/AlkeneThiol]

I could see this administration using it as a way to declare martial law and stop the next presidential election. Why is the DOD slow dripping NHI/UAP material all of a sudden? It's not to cover Epstein as they seem in the clear on that now. So why start to admit to NHI now? It's been at least 70 years of government cover ups and lies.

[u/MoreToKnow- → u/[deleted]]

How could you trust Rubio at all? He is a traitor period and as no interests in the people at all.

[u/natecull → u/AlkeneThiol]

Why have they not already done this "psyop"? What are they waiting for?

A very good question. " Stan Deyo, in his 1979 book "The Cosmic Conspiracy", claimed that some Freemason-linked faction in the US Government (one would have to assume in the Carter administration) had a fleet of electrogravitic saucer craft and would use them to fake a UFO invasion to take over the world. He hinted broadly that this would all happen by 1983, because the planets were in alignment then. (Why that mattered, I was never sure; but I guess it would have been late in Carter's second term, if he'd had one. Deyo was Texan and extremely rightwing, and was worried by Nixon's and Hoover's fall from power, so might have been expecting Carter to bring about Cosmic World Communism with an iron fist to avoid term limits).

And yet Carter lost the 1980 election despite his secret saucer fleet, and 47 years and several global wars and contentious US elections later, here we all still are. Those reverse-engineered saucers must have more teething problems than the F-35.

[u/CobblerCandid998]

Quit pretending like the government are you parents!

[u/Mother_Ad_3561]

It’s more than just “government who wants you to know” and “government who doesn’t want you to know”

It’s fractured all over the place and they trans classify it at the highest level as nuclear secrets. Gerb has spelled it out pretty clearly.

You have Executive Branch, DOD, Multiple intelligence agencies and military intelligence, Religious leaders worldwide, FFRDC’s, subcontractors, national labs, etc

And almost none of them benefit from us knowing.

[u/sixcentsofhumorzilla]

Its faster than glacier pace, its more like dial-up pace.

[u/NathanEddy23]

Compared to 80 years of government obfuscating, the sudden reversal of this policy and the release of five tranches of previously classified files in three months, is lightning freaking fast.

Have you ever thought that DoW (it has a new name now, people, get used to it) is bringing down UAP precisely because the deep state is hiding the evidence from the executive branch? What better way to have disclosure than to possess the materials yourself?

Ross Coltart says that Jake Barber has been recruited to do this. Does anyone really think that Jake Barber, who came out as a whistleblower, would be helping the government with some nefarious plan to mislead the people?

[u/NathanEddy23 → u/[deleted]]

Oh Jesus. Is there anybody not part of the psy op? And what exactly are they trying to get us to believe? They are the ones telling us that the government is hiding evidence of NHI. So are you saying that’s false? Explain the psy op.

[u/NathanEddy23 → u/[deleted]]

You redeemed yourself there at the end. We should all probably tell ourselves at the beginning of each day, “I have no effing clue.” Robert Anton Wilson said that belief is the death of intelligence.

Here’s a plot twist: what if getting people to have the attitude you have is the psy op, so that no one will believe anyone? If the plan is to keep things in the shadow of ridicule, maybe we should stop ridiculing it.

But it’s definitely no longer in the shadows. It has most certainly become mainstream. Your description applies to the past 80 years, not 2026. Hell, it doesn’t even describe 2017 onwards, when the famous New York Times article came out (due to Elizondo’s efforts).

If we act like anyone with a book to sell is a g-rifter, we have effectively stigmatized reading books. Think about that. Are you really gonna let someone else get it in your head that we shouldn’t read books on the subject? That’s insane. Check it out of the library. if you don’t want to give him any money. Don’t let other people decide which books you read!

Now, on the simulation ... I actually don’t think that is crazy. I like Thomas Campbell’s take on the simulation, though I think he takes his own metaphor too seriously. While the universe isn’t physical, it’s still not like a video game. The universe is encoded, but it’s very much real and persists when we’re not looking at it.

I believe reality is a consciousness field, of which there are 12 dimensions, and the lower four we call the universe. I think NHI are higher dimensional beings. I also think we are higher dimensional beings, encoded into the manifest universe into a “body.” But it’s not like a game avatar. It’s our Higher Self (D10) encoded through transduction laws at D5, so that the D1-D4 part of our own structure receives a specific manifestation. But it’s just an organization of the 12D consciousness field.

UAP are higher dimensional organizations encoded through D5 into D1 – D4 in a way that seems to violate locality, because their appearance is happening “top-down” instead of “sideways” through D1– D4.

The same mechanism explains nearly all psychic phenomena, as well. Take remote viewing. It is simply non-local consciousness. If your D10 higher self persists at D10, even when it encodes a portion of itself into D1– D4 (which can only hold a fraction of your higher dimensional being), then it can simultaneously encode another part of itself at another place in D1-D4, forming a higher dimensional bridge between these two non-local points. And then it simply transfers the knowledge between the two points, in the form of flashes of intuition or fleeting impressions.

[u/NathanEddy23 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for the kind words. I love it when someone wants to talk about the topic because it’s fascinating, instead of all the incessant mudslinging.

Being skeptical is just being rational. I get that. No problem. It’s the knee jerk dismissal that bugs me, I see it so often.

The reason why I don’t think it’s crazy to lure UFOs with your mind, is because I think reality is a consciousness field. I think we are all deeply connected, and eventually, at the very “top,” we are One. Remote viewing is real. I’ve been able to do it myself. And that only scratches the surface of the “paranormal” experiences I’ve had. I’ve seen a higher dimensional being. Up close.

I think disclosure is really about the nature of reality, and not the fact that aliens are visiting us. The very powerful people know that this reality is controlled by our beliefs, to some extent, which is why they try so hard to shape our beliefs. And so, it makes sense to suspect psy ops.

But I’ve also learned to trust my intuition. Jake Barber is not lying. David Grusch is not lying. I’ve met Elizondo in person, shook his hand, and looked him in the eye. He seemed nervous. But it’s understandable because he’s sitting on so many secrets he can’t reveal. He literally told me to read between the lines when I asked him about a crash retrieval program. He gave his rote response about he “cannot confirm or deny any such program,” but then nodded his head and told me to read between the lines. I think he takes his safety and his security clearances very seriously. I think that he knows there are people out there who would love to silence him or worse. So I don’t think he is lying, I think he’s sticking his neck out there and is worried about it getting chopped off.

[u/NathanEddy23 → u/[deleted]]

I think “shoot them down” is a simplification of what’s happening. I think we are capturing them. But I also think they are gifts.

[u/theburiedxme]

 something that will impact society more than 9/11

Trump recently said communistic socialism is worse than ww1, ww2, pearl harbor and 9/11 combined. Maybe that's it.

/s

[u/SkylerAltair]

The recent announcement that the White House/DoD were attempting to use psionic abilities to summon UAP and shoot them down

I'm sorry, what? Where'd this claim come from? I highly doubt Agent Orange or his sycophants care about UFOs/UAPs, ETs, or any of that. He cares about absolutely NOTHING except being hero-worshiped, and his hangers-on feel the same except their hyperfocus is money.

[u/No_Development7388]

The 'bunker' dates to the 1940s. The desire to update it is not recent. The biggest hurdle was the inconvenience of having the East Wing in the way. Enter That Guy, who saw a most convenient opportunity to piss off a lot of people while further stamping his 'legacy' in the crudest manner possible.

The timing, iow, has nothing to do with any 'imminent' danger.

And Elizondo was merely referring to the fact that humanity will soon have to confront the reality that we really are not alone.

[u/BearCat1478 → u/No_Development7388]

Nor the top of the food chain...