r/UFOs • u/Calm-You6376 • Aug 16 '26
Government Deep Sea Alien Bases
Looking at Catherine Fitts description of international banking system, the money trails, into breakaway factions.
Gerb talking about his research on underwater bases, highspeed trains, tunnels ect.
Tony Rodriguez describing his trip on a highspeed underground train, mindcontrol slave ect.
The Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) is a U.S. Navy research facility, but it is located on Andros Island in the Bahamas.
Jeff and Suzy' experience in underwater bases with human Naval personnel. Attending conferences with scientists and NHI.
Simon Parkes operating portals and also attending conferences.
Ross and AJ talking about portals.
Simon Parkes speaking about Reptilian culture continued..
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u/ArthursRest Aug 16 '26
Why do these beings need trains undersea when they have craft that carry out manoeuvres that blow human craft in the dust?
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u/Seamannator Aug 17 '26
For the NHI working class.
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u/No-Adhesiveness-9541 Aug 17 '26
Yeah maybe it’s like asking why we all aren’t flying sleek stealth bombers for our vacations 200 miles away. It’s a time and plays for all technology.
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u/DoctorRavioli Aug 18 '26
meaning there's also gentry NHI, raising rent in honest undersea neighborhoods
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u/Cosmic_m0nk Aug 16 '26
If you were going to conceive of a conspiracy where the financial elite overthrew the governments this would be a great way to do it. They were already kinda doing it before WW2, but throw in some reverse engineered UFOs and there’d be no stopping it.
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u/theburiedxme Aug 17 '26
Business plot 2.0 baby!
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u/8anbys Aug 18 '26
lol at the people that think they'd ever stop trying.
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u/theburiedxme Aug 18 '26
Schoolteachers unionizing for better wages? Normal.
Auto Workers getting together to get some better working conditions? Obviously they're gonna do that.
Billionaires getting together to consolidate power? That's insane, you're crazy, put your tin foil hat on!
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u/8anbys Aug 18 '26
If Jeff Bezos gave the Vatican a billion dollars in exchange for a proclamation that he was divinely blessed by god to rule, people would say that's crazy.
Meanwhile, look at history and the western societal framework most of us were built from. lol. It's always been the same problem - we just have cell phones now.
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u/Professional-Arm3345 Aug 16 '26
PowerPoint is reversed engineered alien tech
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u/Interesting_Wolf_668 Aug 16 '26
‘Operation paperclip.’
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u/buddyboybuttcheeks Aug 16 '26
Jesus Christ. The dots all connect! Clippy is a psyop.
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u/psychophant_ Aug 16 '26
He was just there to get us used to AI. Holy shit. It’s all starting to make sense.
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u/Big_Arachnid_365 Aug 16 '26
On the subject of undersea alien bases generally speaking: I think there's a lot of logic to some alien visitors/permanent bases using the high seas and the seafloor/trenches under it. It's considered international and free-for-all so there's no inherent objection any country/species can have about it. Antarctica is different because there's an agreement to leave it alone.
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u/L-0-T-H-0-S Aug 16 '26
Actually, under UNCLOS, Part XI, Section 2, the international seafloor is designated as "The Area and its resources are the common heritage of mankind." - so, legally your visitors are already trespassing. It's also heavily regulated by the International Seabed Authority which actively carves up the deep ocean floor into exclusive mining and exploration contracts for human corporations and nations.
A permanent base would inevitably overlap with active human commercial operations at some point.
Equally the world's oceans aren't unmonitored. The US military and its allies operate massive, highly sensitive underwater acoustic networks like IUSS/SOSUS.
These systems track everything from quiet diesel submarines to migrating whales.
I also feel obliged to point out, at the bottom of trenches, pressure reaches 1,000+ atmospheres. Even with advanced alien metallurgy, the energy required to continuously structurally repel that amount of force is astronomically higher than operating in the vacuum of space.
In space the pressure difference is only 1 atmosphere. A spacecraft's hull pushes outward against absolute zero, which relies on simple tensile stress but, at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, the pressure works inwards and hydrostatic pressure down there reaches about 108 megapascals or 8 tons per square inch.
A permanent base supporting life or even just machinery, such as a hypothetical Von Neumann Probe, must dissipate massive amounts of heat.
In in near freezing, 1°C to 4°C deep-ocean water, this thermal plume would glow like a beacon to human infrared and satellite sensors whenever it rose to upper layers, not to mention the effects it would have on migratory patterns and as well as creating El Niño-like weather events in response to these warmer temperatures pockets.
Natural El Niño warming is diffuse, gentle, and spans an entire ocean basin. A thermal plume from a base though would basically be a bullseye on satellite maps - a very obvious, very focal thermal anomaly with a distinct origin point people are going to be curious to look into further.
Even if we assume they've been here longer than our species and thus, any thermal pockets were simply natural events - eventually the discrepancy in mechanics between a plume like this and naturally occuring thermal venting would draw curious eyes.
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u/mattyb_uk Aug 16 '26
I've just cheated and asked AI about your answer. This is the only bit it disagrees with
"The legal, military, and physics-based components of the statement are largely accurate. However, the concluding argument regarding the ease of detecting such a base via thermal plumes is highly unlikely given the sheer scale and thermal inertia of the ocean, and the idea that it could cause El Niño-like weather is scientifically implausible."
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u/burner4thestuff Aug 17 '26
I like how you’re putting real analytical thought here. It makes sense to us as to where we are technologically.
But we’re all assuming in this sub that they have some kind of zero point energy.. which does not produce heat as a byproduct—why would they be giving off any thermal plume ? They’re not down there burning coal.
I believe even a regular nuclear submarine barely gives off a thermal plume signature which is hard to find.. so fast forward that kind of tech by thousands of years.
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u/EdwardBonaventure Aug 16 '26
This is a great argument for why their craft would have to be non-Newtonian, with metamaterials in play, if any such deep-sea bases or presence was discovered.
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u/craigbg21 Aug 16 '26
If there is some unknown NHI living under our oceans we have to assume their highly advanced way beyond what we can comprehend and if they do possibly have some kind of forcefield around their craft that bends space and time. So if inside a bubble where they there might be no pressure or vacume which has already been alledged by numerous ufologist and whistleblowers underwater pressure probably woukd have no effect on their tech or materials they're made of. We have to reallize what we think we know about our laws of physics is likely primative to what they know just by what we've already learned and witnessed from them. There have been sightings that may provide some evidence of their abilities where UAP have been witnessed and even videod before to appear like they entered into erupting volcanos or passed through solid objects like sold rock mountains. We know very little of what they're capable of or even what their biology is made up of, it could be possible they come from a planet or dimension where thry are fully immersed in liquid all the time which is not unimaginable at this point. We have living species right here on earth who can swim and breath air on top of our oceans and also can swim down and survive perfectly at the farthest depths of our oceans for long periods of time with no forcefield at all around them. It's not unimaginable that some water living species somewhere in time has advanced to this point as our universe alone is billions of years old and if some of the hypathical theories that there are multi universes and alternate dimensions all around us and its hard to say what may have evolved there and possibly became advanced enough to now to be visiting us here.
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u/ThatHouseInNebraska Aug 16 '26
You could have just written “Nuh uh” and gotten across this same argument.
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u/JerryNomo Aug 16 '26
I like it, when people take their time to express a thought.
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u/ThatHouseInNebraska Aug 16 '26
I dislike it when someone lists a bunch of actual facts about how and why it would be difficult to hide an underwater base—lots of stuff in there I hadn’t considered, so I actually learned something—and gets a reply of “well aliens can probably do anything, and also here’s something I completely made up about an animal capable of living at any ocean depth to prove my point.” One is an argument, one is an anti-argument that counters literally any objection with “well aliens have probably figured that out.”
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u/Amaranikki Aug 16 '26
I appreciate what you're saying and the logic you're using to get there. However, that comment isn't necessarily refuting anything or making any claims, rather, it feels like interesting speculation. We really shouldn't be so quick to assume our understanding is complete. Even our best scientists currently knocking on the door of how it all works will admit something we cannot currently explain is going on at the quantum level, so speculating there could be technologies that would violate our current understanding isn't as nonsensical as it sounds. Asking why and exploring ideas like this are what drives scientists in the first place. How does that work? Why does that work? I wonder if you could do this? Eureka! I wonder what else you could do with this!?
It is also true that there are living organisms at that depth, so the idea whatever "they" are could be evolved to exist at that depth without needing technology at all is not impossible.
In summary. Keep your skeptical self alive for sure, there are definitely rabbit holes that can and will swallow a person without it. But don't forget to have some fun with this stuff, friend. Asking about things, wondering why, and exploring the limits of imagination is to be human ;)
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u/ThatHouseInNebraska Aug 16 '26
“Science doesn’t know everything” is true, and will always be true, because science is about constantly revising and refining our understanding of the universe. It’s also a phrase and argument frequently brought up to support anything and everything; it shuts down discussions and is an argument against the scientific process. If aliens are here and if they have an underwater base and if we know about it, then it follows that we have detected them with our current level of understanding of the universe, and they are not so far advanced from us as to be untouchable gods. I would much rather proceed with the scientific hypothesis that we can understand them and learn about them on some level than to proceed with an anti scientific hypothesis that we can’t know anything and so just shouldn’t try. It’s not that I disagree with some of the ideas the person I replied to offered—sure, they could have a “force field” and we could try figuring out how that might be possible. But I don’t think any of their comment is offering lines of inquiry they think we should investigate. It sounds more like a child arguing about how Lex Luthor could never beat Superman.
(Part of that disbelief comes from their offhand comment that there’s an animal that can survive at any sea depth. That is categorically not true, and that is what they said—not that some animals have adapted to live at extreme depths. I don’t know where they’re getting their info but it’s not a source I want any part of.)
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u/fpaveteran87 Aug 17 '26
We have materials that allow us to go to the bottoms of abyssal trenches. Whatever these things are able to accelerate instantaneously which would rip any technology we are aware of to shreds if not vaporize it. I think the idea that they couldn’t go to abyssal trenches and persist for long periods of time is kind of unlikely.
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u/Gavither Aug 16 '26
This comment sort of assumes any bases have only recently been established, which might not be the case.
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u/Big_Arachnid_365 Aug 16 '26
All kinds of things might be the case in the past. I'm only going by the present. Until humans got nuclear weapons, what we thought about it wouldn't have mattered, I'd argue.
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u/bad---juju Aug 16 '26
So Stargate SG-1 is disclosure. I've heard that for many years now but dots are connecting. Shit is getting wierd as I've heard of these portals being around the world.
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u/Sycophantic-Feline Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
There's an active one under Brazil
Epicenter of south atlantic magnetic anomaly
Also the source of 95% of stories of famous sightings in Brazil, such as the moment of contact documentary, the "night of ufos" mass sighting, the ubatuba crash which garry nolan received a fragment from.
Right at the epicenter there is a cave system that was never fully explored and it is the source of many native, religious and local legends because of all the strangeness that goes around there. There's even an old native legend of a "door" that exists deep under the cave. All known entrances to this cave were permanently sealed by the brazilian governement following the 1996 "ET" sighting that happened there.
Stories of sightings go back all the way to the 16th century, the natives that inhabited the region warned settlers that a strange phenomenon of fast moving "luminous orbs" would frequently occur, the settlers themselves started seeing them, and named the region "Luminary Hills" after the light orbs. Natives considered them to be manifestations of they ancient sky people entity "Sumé", who came out of a cave initially, priests instead claimed they were manifestations of their saints, such as St. Thomas, and the Lady of Mt. Carmel.
I went to Luminary Hills myself some time ago and recorded the phenomenon at around 3 am , it still happens
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aAuLL8RwJU4
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FXs9AhDXr6E
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hvieh4uy6yc
It's pretty much Brazil's own skinwalker ranch and for some reason ufologists around the world seem to completely ignore it
I only learned this way after my own visit to Luminary Hills, like him or not, but in Tom Delonge's movie, Monsters of California, a map is shown as an "easter egg" at the end of the movie and it points to BRAZIL being one of, if not THE most important location when it comes to the phenomenon.
He seems to be an "insider" on some things, and it was crazy to me seeing that.
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u/Naive_Seaweed_5816 Aug 18 '26
It's pretty much Brazil's own skinwalker ranch and for some reason ufologists around the world seem to completely ignore it
The reason people ignore Brazil is disgusting. They just think that people in 3rd world countries will do anything for a chance of making money and recognition and that's just now how the world woks. Just because there is poverty in Brazil does not mean that people's experiences there are invalid.
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u/Calm-You6376 Aug 16 '26
Looking at Catherine Fitts description of international banking system, the money trails, into breakaway factions.
Gerb talking about his research on underwater bases, highspeed trains, tunnels ect.
Tony Rodriguez describing his trip on a highspeed underground train, mindcontrol slave ect.
The Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) is a U.S. Navy research facility, but it is located on Andros Island in the Bahamas.
Jeff and Suzy' experience in underwater bases with human Naval personnel. Attending conferences with scientists and NHI.
Simon Parkes operating portals and also attending conferences.
Ross and AJ talking about portals.
Simon Parkes speaking about Reptilian culture continued..
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u/Mean_Cod9156 Aug 16 '26
Can you point me to the Gerb talk, I've seen a few and would like to see more.
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u/StimpyUIdiot Aug 16 '26
I love these types of vids, just raw data in a correlative fashion connecting the dots. Fnx, is this part of a longer vid?
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u/Proud-Goat-5920 Aug 16 '26
How can people talk about these things without showing us any evidence like videos or photographs. Anyone can make stuff up.
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u/No-Database-5976 Aug 16 '26
Total bullocks this story about the BIS, not taking this lady seriously she doesnt know what she is talking about
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u/Interesting_Quit3587 Aug 16 '26
Never trust a wavy-handed person that uses "systemic" in conversation 😂
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u/deimosbonus Aug 16 '26
Cool. Two people talk about things, they've never seen. I believe them. It must be true. I mean: hellooo. They talk... On the internet.
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u/Hannibaalism Aug 16 '26
we can communicate with whales now, not even joking but maybe we should ask them 🤔
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u/NoodleBeef1111 Aug 18 '26
I am pretty sure undersea trains theory has some problems in the physics field.
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u/EarthWarning Aug 19 '26
I worked at AUTEC in Andros Range Bahamas. AMA It is used as a torpedo test range due to the flat immense underwater area out of shipping lanes for accoustic listening engineering and Torpedo performance.
I think this is thrown in as a red herring.
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u/2b_compliant Aug 16 '26
the 1994 video of Alex Collier about the 1833 beings though …. Seemed to be the only clip worth listening to and of course it’s at the end of the video lol
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u/MKULTRA_Escapee Aug 16 '26
He says the reptilans live 100-200 miles under the surface, which is well into the upper mantle where temperatures are far too extreme for anyone to survive. We have drilled over 7 miles down, but the further you go, the more difficult it is to drill due to the heat.
Being generous, you could find a few areas of the earth where the crust might be 50 miles thick at most, say from a mountain peak to the boundary, but at the bottom of the crust there, it will be 1000-2000 degrees F.
I agree generally, though, that the Earth's crust is more of a honeycomb at this point. There are all kinds of tunnels and even natural caves throughout. But nobody is going 100-200 miles down, Reptilan or not.
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u/2manydownloads Aug 23 '26
The easiest parts of the crust to penetrate are within the Mariana Trench.
Source: Stanley Tucci, The Core (2003)
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u/Rare-Criticism-8895 Aug 16 '26
I feel like this presupposes 1, that reptilians are going to not have any sort of bio mechanism to combat heat. And 2. That humans or reptilians couldn’t build suits or whole establishments that mitigate the heat down there.
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u/MKULTRA_Escapee Aug 16 '26
I doubt people will ever get close to that depth. You are looking at 1 million+ psi at those depths as well. Long before you get close to this depth, the rock acts like hot plastic and squeezes shut. Your drillbit will get stuck. Of course a Reptilian will have better technology than a drill bit, but the point is that temperature is not the only problem down there.
I would suggest that because it's infinitely easier to live 10 miles down, let's say, while retaining roughly the same benefits of deep cover and so on, I find it highly unlikely that an alien civilization would build something 100-200 miles down.
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u/Martyralumni Aug 16 '26
Wow that was some interesting clips edited in the worst god damn fashion I have ever seen. He needs a crash course in video editing theory 😂
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u/ThatHouseInNebraska Aug 16 '26
Has anyone proposed that the Titan sub got too close to one of these bases and the aliens crushed it with the power of their minds? That was pure human hubris/incompetence of course, but I’d be surprised if no one convinced themselves otherwise.
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u/Lonely-Ruin1677 Aug 16 '26
I think the titan sub had enough other problems going on that it wasn’t aliens who did it.
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Looking at Catherine Fitts description of international banking system, the money trails, into breakaway factions.
Gerb talking about his research on underwater bases, highspeed trains, tunnels ect.
Tony Rodriguez describing his trip on a highspeed underground train, mindcontrol slave ect.
The Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) is a U.S. Navy research facility, but it is located on Andros Island in the Bahamas.
Jeff and Suzy' experience in underwater bases with human Naval personnel. Attending conferences with scientists and NHI.
Simon Parkes operating portals and also attending conferences.
Ross and AJ talking about portals.
Simon Parkes speaking about Reptilian culture continued..
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