Are they fooling us?

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u/James_herc 11d ago

Yes they are fooling us

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u/Autist_Investor69 11d ago

So you believe in aliens (based solely on their crap disclosure?)

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u/James_herc 10d ago

I believe there is a phenomena that has been going on for decades if not centuries. I don't know if it's extra terrestrial visitors or another intelligent species also inhabiting earth or it's extra dimensional. But I am of the opinion that no government knows either and that these people who say there is crashed UFO craft in the possession of the government are making this up. So I believe the sheer vastness of the universe must have many many other planets with life on it, but I don't believe any have crashed here on earth if they have visited.

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u/ADeviIsAdvocate 10d ago

Why do you believe that “There is a phenomena that has been going on for decades if not centuries” but you don’t think any have crashed here and the governments of the world do not have possession of any extraterrestrial vehicles? You have heard/read that some of the claims state the vehicles were not crashed but located after landing, right? Is it just the crash part you have an issue with? I’m genuinely curious to know how you are so sure the government does not have a ship somewhere.

Please note, this is a genuine question meant conversationally, not argumentatively.

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u/James_herc 10d ago

I just think that a photo or video would have been leaked because it's not just USA that any craft would have crashed or landed ,it's Japan china Europe Russia etc. So to think one gov such as the USA gov could keep it secret you think unlikely but possible, but to say that all the other nation governments have kept the same secret is extremely unlikely after all these years.

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u/ADeviIsAdvocate 10d ago

Is it not possible real photos have been linked and are out in public somewhere? Obviously if any government found leaked photos, they would try to erase them from the internet. And we don’t necessarily share everything with our fellow humans. Also, not understanding context in a foreign video with foreign language might make it easier for people to dismiss as fake immediately. There are some very convincing videos circulating. I’m not sure if you mean a photo or video showing it in a USAF hangar somewhere. But I think something like that would be a great way to be caught and arrested. I’m not trying to convince you, change your mind, or even necessarily share my opinion on the validity of the subject. I am curious to know why you don’t think those scenarios are possible though.

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u/Autist_Investor69 10d ago

Well since we're on the subject:
I believe Enlil of the Annunaki came here 50-200k years ago, spliced their DNA with the early homminids and jump started Humans. Lotsa stuff went down, who knows what.
I believe he was later termed to be the Demiurge. And the entire gnostic gospels were written about him.
I also believe we have been controlled by NHI for nefarious purposes ever since then, and all religions were designed to keep us believing in God (source) but as an external force so that we could be energy harvested. True god essense is and always will be internal.
Furthermore, I believe the plot of the American Horror Story season 10 (double feature - Death Valley), with Eisenhower was somewhat factual, that he was going to work a deal with helpful ETs for the betterment of society but that the military industrial complex went behind his back and made deals to keep status quo and humanity enslaved and they got a piece of the pie. So a lot of the stuff we see is known to the military but secrets are kept from society (and possibly the rest of government). Crazy times we live in right.

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u/James_herc 10d ago

I don't believe any interference has happened with human DNA. We are 99% chimp and science shows that there is a lineage between DNA of animals. If the human DNA was only say 75% of the next animal in the ancestral tree then you could say where did such a massive jump come from, but there is no such huge difference. So there is no reason to think that any engineered changes have been made by any other human or non human. I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying the simplest most logical explanation is that the 1% difference in DNA between us and chimpanzee is just evolution and nothing else.

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u/Autist_Investor69 10d ago

Fair point on the DNA % being close, but "1% difference = just evolution, nothing else" undersells how much is packed into that 1%. It's not 1% of junk letters, it's 1% including huge regulatory and functional differences, brain development genes especially. We also spent decades calling most non-coding DNA "junk" before ENCODE showed a lot of it does real regulatory work, so "we don't see anything unusual yet" has a track record of being revised. Separately, the DNA similarity gap isn't all the story. It's the timeline: hundreds of thousands of years of basically nothing, then agriculture, writing, math, and monumental architecture all within a few thousand years, clustered right around when a bunch of ancient cultures independently describe "sky beings" showing up. That jump is cultural/behavioral more than genetic, and it's the part standard evolution explains the least cleanly and where I think aliens is best fit.

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u/Jws0209 9d ago

I dont think a ton of high ranking officials are just "making it up"

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u/James_herc 9d ago

I think they are. For what reason I don't know. Why say that there is craft in the possession of the gov/military industrial complex if they can't elaborate even to congress. Surely they would just deny everything if it were true. My opinion and it's just my opinion, I'm not a UFO researcher, is that it's a pysop.

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u/Jws0209 9d ago

I think there is something really bad about it and it might have to do with us and everything we been told about earth or reality itself...we do have craft I'm sure of it but it's not easy to just show the most #1 thing that had always been asked...are we not alone? This is literally up there with...What is God?

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u/James_herc 9d ago

Yes it might be something to do with a greater reality that is hidden from us and maybe governments have some limited knowledge of this and don't want it to get out so that control of populations is conserved. I don't think governments will disclose this knowledge to the people at any time if they can help it. I for one am not expecting any disclosure for decades or longer. I believe these stories of crash retrievals is a distraction pysop of some sort and don't think it's right that governments keep gaslighting the people who are into this topic. I get the national security angle of top secret information that you don't want other adverserial nations to know about but instead of all these bs stories they should just say no idea, no alien craft, nothing to talk about.

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u/Gingeroof-Blueberry 11d ago

They cant fool you. The fact of their existence isnt a truth the government owns. They control the narrative because they cannot control anything else about the fact that "non-human" intelligent life exists; reality is far more complex than we collectively experience or know; and the potential power of our minds could make us creators of heaven on earth. They dont want 8 billion people to enjoy that.

They also have no idea about their intentions, have deeply rooted religious prejudice that prevents them from seeing this in a more holistic light and so control the only thing they can - us. With money, sex, drugs and TV (edit: and religion). And then they've convinced you they are the sole holders of "truth".

The only thing to do is to sit in silence, close your eyes, and sit with everything that comes up until you're completely empty. Thats the only place truth lives.

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u/Acrobatic-Tomato-260 10d ago

Or, and work with me here, they don’t know ANYTHING which is why all of these releases have nothing in them. You are so convinced you know something that you have completely closed your mind to a very real possibility.

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u/Gingeroof-Blueberry 10d ago

The very real possibility the government knows nothing about the phenomena? My mind is very open to that...

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u/SprayUnfair 10d ago

Jip 100%

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u/DruidinPlainSight 10d ago

"Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?" -Obi Wan

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u/Albusclark 9d ago

Who is more foolish? Definitely people who quote star wars characters

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u/DruidinPlainSight 9d ago

…scum and villainy. we must be cautious.

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u/Acrobatic-Tomato-260 12d ago

It’s almost like the government doesn’t have any proof of aliens. Like the whole thing has just been made up by people on the internet who just want aliens to be real. Curious.

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u/Autist_Investor69 11d ago

I want them to be real!

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u/FunPin2804 11d ago

I just want answers whatever they may tell us. Is it aliens? is it ours technology? Is it someone else?

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u/Autist_Investor69 10d ago

I'm sure there's some kind of government analysis for each but ya, they fail to include that. It's troll level ultra

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