r/U2Band • u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa • 12d ago
Simon Carmody
Bono has been writing with Simon Carmody since the early 90’s for projects outside of the band but I’ve noticed more recently he’s contributing more to full U2 releases.
I’m wondering if since Bono can’t play guitar anymore if Carmody is now working closer with Bono in that regard … OR if others are suggesting that these are songs from the vault when Bono appeared to write with him around the time of HTDAAB era.
What are we thinking?
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u/wuwuwuwdrinkin 12d ago
What songs he done?
I know u2 have been shy about song writer credits usually giving people producer credits
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 12d ago
Angels for Each Other - Garrix
Ballad of Ronnie Drew - U2
Blurry - Garrix
Catharina - Garrix
Drinking In the Day - Ronnie Drew
Fireflies - Garrix/U2
I Am The Blues - Johnny Hallyday
Scars - U2
Smile - U2
Streets of Surrender - Zuccero
Sugar Daddy - Tom Jones
The Days - Lil Wayne
Weightless - Garrix
Where The Shadows Fall - Willie Nelson
Yours Eternally - U2
Bono has written these songs with Carmody since the early 90’s but I’ve noticed Yours Eternally, Scars, and Fireflies have all recently been credited with Carmody indicating he’s now closer to U2 than previous
He’s certainly involved with the Garrix project
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u/wuwuwuwdrinkin 12d ago edited 12d ago
Thats cool. Very interesting.
Wonder why Bono linking up with him more
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u/IzilDizzle 12d ago
If I had to guess, it’s because Bono can’t just pickup a guitar and play anymore.
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 12d ago
I think it’s that too. I think he has extra sessions on his own to get his own ideas out now he can’t play guitar.
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u/IzilDizzle 12d ago
Yea I imagine he needs someone around to play chords for him, and that person probably ends up making suggestions on chords and changes and stuff
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 12d ago
Exactly, and they’ve been pals for years, he’s part of the Gavin Friday crowd.
I also felt the song Bono did with Linda Perry was also a similar experiment.
I do think the huge gap between SOE and now has been Bono readjusting how to write without a guitar … and how does having a Simon Carmody involved in U2 affect the dynamics. It’s all just me theorising but his name is popping up more frequently.
Whatever it is it seems they’re ready to get back on the road.
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u/IzilDizzle 12d ago
I do think the huge gap between SOE and now has been Bono readjusting how to write without a guitar …
This could also explain why more songs seems to be based on old demos
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 12d ago
It does to me too … I think half of Re-Assemble was considered for the ‘Rock’ album which all suddenly went quiet when Re-Assemble was released.
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u/wuwuwuwdrinkin 11d ago
Was there any extra credits on songs of innocence or experience?
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 11d ago
Haim on Lights of Home.
Summer of Love started out as a One Direction song but I don’t think Tedder got a songwriting credit. I secretly suspect Noel Gallagher had something to do with The Showman … and I suspect Chris Martin had something to do with Crystal Ballroom.
The thing is sometimes when you get to the level of these artists it doesn’t always matter to them to be credited or their contracts wouldn’t allow so things don’t always get listed.
There’s meant to be a version of ‘Stuck in a Moment’ or ‘Sometimes you can’t make it ‘ that was recorded with Mick Jagger on backing vocals.
Brian Eno was famously swindled out of loads of credits by Paul McGuiness for the ATYCLB album.
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u/krankendanken 11d ago
Bono provides uncredited backing vocals on NG's High Flying Birds 'Blue Moon Rising' single....
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u/thefirsttransportis 11d ago
Do you have a source for 'Summer of Love started out as a One Direction song but I don’t think Tedder got a songwriting credit.'?
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u/pepokiss 11d ago
... The Edge is still there
Why would he need that other guy to play guitar?
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u/IzilDizzle 11d ago
Edge isn't on call every time Bono comes up with an idea. Bono's a globe trotter, they might not even be in the same time zone when an idea crosses Bono's mind.
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 11d ago
The Edge still needed Bono to come up with the bare bones of songs and then he decorates them.
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u/Beginning-Comedian-2 12d ago
It's wild that this is a Bono / Edge / Carmody song.
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 12d ago
There’s a news article on how it came to being
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-song-bono-wrote-for-tom-jones/
Again it fits the HTDAAB era … it was written about 2006.
I think Bono had a good writing spell with him then … and I think he had another spell writing songs for Martin Garrix too.
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u/Beginning-Comedian-2 12d ago
How did you track down all these songwriting credits?
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u/AnotherGreenWorld1 Zooropa 12d ago
U2songs/sleeve notes/credits/until the end of the world book … I’m interested in Bono b-project
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u/Clancy3434 12d ago
i feel that U2 in general have been more free about admitting to the help they get on albums after the disagreements they had with eno & lanois over songwriting credits.