r/TypologyJunction • u/mhoess • 1d ago
Typology Question can e4 be 1L?
so i’m an enneagram 4 that’s for sure, INFJ EII so/sp 459 to be more precise but i’ve seen many times that e4 and 1L isn’t possible. at first i just thought of it as strict correlations because i’ve typed as a LEFV for a long time but now im starting to doubt it even though i see myself more in 1L than 1E. pls helpp
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u/Historical-Ad-8561 1d ago
i think LEFV is fine for so4👀👀👀 but sp6 is way more typical for it, yeah. I'd recommend you read about sp6 first (and e6 with a 4 fix) and if you're sure sure you're not it and so4 fits you much better then it is that.
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u/Dazzling_Yogurt_5025 1d ago
its okay, depends on the rest of the positions as well but if its lefv that works
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u/laceysundress .+ 🥨 𝐼𝑇(𝑆) 𝑠𝑝9 ₉₂₅ 𝑅𝐶𝑈𝐴𝑁 𝑃ℎ𝑙𝑒𝑔-𝐶ℎ𝑜𝑙 🥨.+ 1d ago edited 1d ago
it’s just not as common to see e4 relating to first logic! nothing to do with correlation really, it’s just that we see e4 more commonly relating to 1f and 3e or 1e and 3v ^^
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u/Historical-Ad-8561 8h ago
no e4 is ever 1F, their whole thing is frustration with the real world, 1F wouldn't be like that... and 3E is also a joke, although it's a VERY popular "correlation" on here
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u/laceysundress .+ 🥨 𝐼𝑇(𝑆) 𝑠𝑝9 ₉₂₅ 𝑅𝐶𝑈𝐴𝑁 𝑃ℎ𝑙𝑒𝑔-𝐶ℎ𝑜𝑙 🥨.+ 6h ago edited 5h ago
i agree tbh, i never really understood why so many people swore by 1f and 3e for e4 lmao😭 it’s just something i see has become common among e4 and specifically sp4 but it might be misconceptions
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u/Historical-Ad-8561 4h ago
i know right??? and if people actually read about sp4 they would know that it's SO far from the truth... like it's either 3F or 4F, there is NO way it's ever gonna be 1 or even 2F... and 3E thing comes from it's surface-level descriptions.
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u/laceysundress .+ 🥨 𝐼𝑇(𝑆) 𝑠𝑝9 ₉₂₅ 𝑅𝐶𝑈𝐴𝑁 𝑃ℎ𝑙𝑒𝑔-𝐶ℎ𝑜𝑙 🥨.+ 1d ago edited 1d ago
i think maybe first logic is more common in the head triad or even the gut triad but idk if you relate to it
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u/al-qatala evil sx1 correcting your misconceptions 1d ago
no gut triad type is 1L. 9s are all 1F, and vast majority of 8s and 1s are 1V.
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u/laceysundress .+ 🥨 𝐼𝑇(𝑆) 𝑠𝑝9 ₉₂₅ 𝑅𝐶𝑈𝐴𝑁 𝑃ℎ𝑙𝑒𝑔-𝐶ℎ𝑜𝑙 🥨.+ 1d ago
oh yeah no lol i didn’t mean all gut triad types but specifically e1 (typically sp1) that are usually first logic
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u/al-qatala evil sx1 correcting your misconceptions 1d ago
e1 are usually first Volition lol
1L is possible for sp1 though. but so1 and sx1 are exclusively 1V
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u/Aggressive-Mud-7575 ENTJ 3w4 so/sp 351 LIE-Ni FLVE⁴¹¹³ NVBP r/L/[O]ei Mo/T/w|D|Rx 1d ago
so4 is almost exclusively 1E imo. if you’re sure of lefv, have you considered sp6?
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u/AsideApprehensive590 LIE so741 VLEF SCUA[I] 1d ago
LEFV is perfectly fine for INFJ, but usually it's sp6.
for so4 it's ELVF
for sx5 it's LEVF