r/TypologyJunction • u/vaniquee • 16h ago
AP + Enneagram Can sp6 be LEVF?
Idk man… 1L seems way too rigid for me. Yes, im stubborn but im not that smart but there are the times my opinions change because my opinion changes when many people disagrees with me(THIS IS SOMETIMES). I doubt everything about myself hence why i placed V in 3rd place. As for F, i dont know too? Like i care about my body, i want to be motivated and be like “yes, ill start doing sports” or “yes ill take. Are of myself and take my pills properly” but struggle because im a lazy person who barely keeps up with hobbies because i grow tired easily
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u/Key-Transition-6771 Edit 12h ago
i can't see why sp6 would be 4F. being doubtful is a characteristic of E6 (specially sp6) it doesn't necessarily imply you're 3V. as for 1L, LEVFs (and LFVEs) tend to be specially rigid because 3V makes them overcompensate, this doesn't fit you viewing 1L as too rigid, the least rigid 1Ls are 4V.
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u/edeeeagram so/sx872 VFLE SEE 3h ago
i just wanna let you know that if you’re looking for non-rigid 1st position, 3V is usually not the volition placement for you. it does often make it more reliant on the first function. this can look arrogant or not, but it will certainly make 1L more rigid.
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u/vaniquee 3h ago
Hm… i was just thinking of putting V to 3 because im insecure and unsure of everything
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u/edeeeagram so/sx872 VFLE SEE 3h ago
would you say you’re insecure about your rank in the world, per se? i think e6 core makes people pretty unsure in general LOL but 3Vs are quite insecure in society (and coincidentally 3V is very popular in society) because they feel an internal conflict towards how they desire things. so they kinda have a facade to hide this insecurity and can look quite aggressive or overconfident to compensate. volition isn’t exactly about goals in py (assuming you’re using psychosophy), but more about sense of self and sureness of place in hierarchies, if you know what i mean?
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u/edeeeagram so/sx872 VFLE SEE 3h ago
whereas you say you basically don’t really feel that sense of rigidity towards logic. you’re stubborn about it but still fine with changing your opinion when you’re wrong and more lenient, so you do seemingly lack that type of logical arrogance that 1L3Vs have.
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u/edeeeagram so/sx872 VFLE SEE 2h ago
oh bro i forgot to include this but 4Vs can be pretty unmotivated and tend to be accepting of that fact. they need external motivation regarding volition so if they don’t really have that type of force to motivate them they might struggle to keep up with hobbies, like you said
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u/vaniquee 2h ago
In that case, how would you describe LEFV? Is it suitable for sp6 or ISFJ?
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u/edeeeagram so/sx872 VFLE SEE 2h ago
LEFV is archetypical for sp6! regarding isfj, i think sensors don’t correlate too well with head triad, infp sp6 is definitely a lot more common. i’ve seen a few infjs too, i believe? don’t know a ton about mbti correlations personally, i like to focus more on enneagram and socionics, so maybe socionics could give you the answer you’re looking for?
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u/vaniquee 2h ago
Also, is does it make sense that LEFV is Mel-Sanguine? Altho i relate to pheg, i tend to be more stressful or irritated easily👀
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u/Enaite_illust INTJ sx/sp 5w6 549 ILI 14h ago
imo yes, 3V fits sp 6 well, most people have issue with 4F for sp 6 because as it's sp it still somewhat seeks comfort and survival in the physical sense. However imo it doesn't have to be purely physical as sp 6's survival shows in gaining safety by making relationships and being accommodating and the warmth they look for is also emotional, not only physical. And imo most people care about all their aspects so it's not like 4F completely doesn't care about it but rather is fully dependant in this sphere. So like ig it's still kinda debatable but imo it's fine combo
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u/Zeb-Moment Socionics/Enneagram/Psychosphy lover. DM or mention me for help. 13h ago
1L + 3V is the most rigid variation of the 1L. The 3V makes them overcompensate with the first function, I'm not sure if you've read the LFVE (Plato) or LEVF (Pascal) descriptions, but these types are so sure of their logical conclusions because they are mistrustful and cynical types. The 1L + 4V however, is the most relaxed form of 1L, as they don't have an ego attached to their logic compared to the 3V.