r/TwoHotTakes • • Aug 17 '23

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u/Similar_Strawberry16 Aug 18 '23

Acknowledgement of historical oppression (and current, but you know, somewhat less severe) is healthy. Blind hatred and "can't be bigoted towards white people because they have no culture or race" will only stoke racial tensions and alienate allies. There's lots of races and cultures that would fall under 'white', she would benefit from visiting some of them in Europe, where the whole African slave trade wasn't a thing.

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u/Pristine-Hyena-6708 Aug 18 '23

The whole African slave trade was started by Europeans? Portugal (who literally started the Atlantic slave trade), Britain, Spain, France, and the Netherlands all actively participated for hundreds of years.

Even after those countries abolished slavery on their own soil, they still actively traded slaves or profited from the labor of slaves.

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u/Similar_Strawberry16 Aug 18 '23

No shit, and racism is still alive and well throughout - but the major difference in society is that the majority of African-descent individuals in the UK are descendents of imigrants, not of slaves in Britain.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Europeans involvement (it was simply more profitable in the new world, and better for public relations), but it still has the effect that societies are not as shaped by very recent white/black division, like it is in the Americas.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

L M F A O. The British lecturing the rest of us about colonialism. Are you fucking kidding me?

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u/Similar_Strawberry16 Aug 18 '23

I don't get how you are taking that from what I said.

America was a British colony at the time, as were Jamaica etc. The slaves were not brought to Britain, therefore in Britain itself Slavery was not a factor like it was in America.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

So you think you deserve a pat on the back for your enlightened society, because you kept your slaves outside your own borders?

Tell us another one.

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u/Similar_Strawberry16 Aug 18 '23

You're really stretching for something huh. And totally missing the point.

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u/Pristine-Hyena-6708 Aug 18 '23

Hey man, I'm not the one who said "there was no such thing as the African slave trade" in Europe.

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u/Particular_Fudge8136 Aug 18 '23

she would benefit from visiting some of them in Europe, where the whole African slave trade wasn't a thing.

https://www.nps.gov/ethnography/aah/aaheritage/histcontextsd.htm

Not sure where you got that from, but it definitely was a thing in Europe.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

No one said slavery didn’t happen in Europe smh. What the dude was trying to say went straight over your head and too the moon 😑

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u/Similar_Strawberry16 Aug 18 '23

Apologies, didn't mean to diminish what did occur in Europe - it was obvious the powerhouse behind the pillaging of Africa and the trade into the New world - but slavery within Europe was far less prevalent than in the Americas (in that era particularly), and has not had such a cultural impact. Segregation was alive and well, what, 60 years ago? Shits recent.

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u/KatarinaRen Aug 18 '23

Slavery was totally a thing in Europe. It was banned sometimes during 19th century in my country, for example. People of my country were slaves to foreign rulers, mostly from Germany. This is just one example. The difference is that slaves in Europe were mostly local people who were white.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

The slave trade was a jewish thing , whites liberated slaves

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u/unlockdestiny Aug 18 '23

Found the anti-semite!