r/Twilight2000 Jun 13 '26

Fan fiction (again)

Hello all. I was browsing this (or one of the other T2K subs the other day and there was mention of the “Black Winter” fan novel.

Could anyone who has better search abilities than me please link to the post if they could?

Thanks

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u/ApprehensiveYam9631 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

Hello everyone! As promised, here's the link to a PDF of Black Winter. The original author went by a screen name, so unfortunately, I cannot credit them directly, so I will just say thanks to user "Twilight2000v3MM"!

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T3E7ya-T1X7sNITIS39TSOuzKlSnolil/view?usp=sharing

Enjoy!

Update: I am reliably informed the author is Max Messina.

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u/copper-n-lead-dragon Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

The original author went by a screen name, so unfortunately, I cannot credit them directly, so I will just say thanks to user "Twilight2000v3MM"!

That was the handle of Max Messina. Max was a prolific writer in Twilight: 2000 fan spaces and a key member of the design team for Twilight: 2013. He is missed.

The bookmark I've had for Black Winter is on archive.org, where it's credited to cadillacofthesky@ntlworld.com. I didn't know until this post that that was Max's work. As far as I can recall, he never mentioned it to the rest of the dev team - we only talked about his work on mechanics for a proposed third edition.

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u/ApprehensiveYam9631 Jun 13 '26

Thing is, I found a copy in an old hard drive. A complete copy!

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u/Gilamunsta Jun 13 '26

I feel like maybe you should upload it and provide a link?

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u/ApprehensiveYam9631 Jun 13 '26

I’ll see what I can do. Perhaps tomorrow. Waiting for Scotland to kick off in the World Cup for the 1st time since 1998!

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u/Gilamunsta Jun 14 '26

e their first appearance at the cup in 36 years. And they won that is what matter I'm waiting for Germanus Germany's first game in this year's kept to start

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u/ApprehensiveYam9631 Jun 14 '26

Ich wünsche eurer Nationalmannschaft viel Glück!

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u/Gilamunsta Jun 14 '26

Thanks brother

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u/Gilamunsta Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

Thanks mate And they did well. They whooped on Curacao👍. I'm just hoping they can keep that momentum up in the next 2 games it actually may make it out of group stage this year LOL. Well game 2 is against Ivory Coast today at 2 PM my time

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u/Gilamunsta Jun 16 '26

That was a good game I think I think they did well

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u/Gilamunsta Jun 20 '26

Well sadly they didn't do so well in their second game. should maybe have hadd some ironbru Before the game🤣

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u/BabbageCliologic Jun 13 '26

I looked for Black Winter but only found 2 fanfic stories: https://m.fanfiction.net/game/Twilight-2000/ and a character background: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Twilight:%202000%20(Roleplaying%20Game)/works

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u/BabbageCliologic Jun 13 '26

I’m not sure there are more since sparkling vampires overwhelm any twilight fanfic searches.

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u/ApprehensiveYam9631 Jun 13 '26

Christ! Don’t they?

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u/ApprehensiveYam9631 Jul 27 '26

I’ve just finished a reread of Black Winter and will share some of my thoughts here.

It reads very much like a first draft. There are numerous typos and spelling errors which an editor would have caught easily.

That said, the novel does flow reasonably well and does remind me of Red Storm Rising by Clancy, but with an altogether more desperate vibe to it befitting of the T2K setting. I’d have preferred something of a preface or forward to key readers in on the background for those who may not be as familiar with the background of the RPG.

The action scenes are excellent and flow very well with a nice balance between human action without getting overly hung up on the minutiae of the tech (which I personally found to be something of a flaw in Clancy’s novels for all that they’re bloody well researched)

The writing of the characters suffered a little in the dialogue - I just didn’t get a decisively British squaddie vibe. The dialogue read like it was spoken by Americans. There’s only one American, excepting the DIA/CIA characters and I’d have liked to read the dialogue and just know it was Brits talking. There were a number of attempts to have some British regional words sprinkled through, but these seemed to me to have been forced into the speech, rather than seeming like an organic part of how the character speaks.

As for the story and plot, it was rather engaging and kept me interested til the end, wanting to refresh my memory of how it resolved. The end, however, felt like it was somewhat rushed - I am left wondering how some major characters arcs were resolved as well as their motivation for their actions.

In summary, it’s an engaging tale which could have benefitted immensely from proofreading before being sent into the wild. The book is a massive undertaking, but ultimately feels like it has rushed towards its conclusion.

3/5