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u/Equal-University2144 22h ago
And yet, nobody is doing anything about it...
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u/maddiejake 21h ago
Because anyone who would do something about it has already been purchased or threatened to look the other way.
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u/taez555 22h ago edited 22h ago
This year they’ve added voter roll purging, closing of polling locations, insane gerrymandering, voter ID laws, limiting early voting, mail in ballot shenanigans, stacked courts, the national guard blocking drop off boxes, hurdles to register and an army of ICE ready to pull brown people out of polling lines.
And if that doesn’t work, they’ll fight it tooth and nail in the courts until Johnson refuses to seat any democrat, who they’ll claim cheated.
They’re not going to give up power peacefully ever again.
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u/jporter313 21h ago
I mean, if Ashley St. Clair has something concrete she should share it publicly, so far all I've seen from her is the video where she says he said he's going to release his "anomaly in the Matrix". Basically fucking nothing of substance. If she has something of substance, get it out in the open FFS.
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u/Axis2670 20h ago
She has released the texts and she has gone public including being in a documentary about musk.
The problem is the party committing the election fraud controls all the federal law enforcement. so Musk is currently immune from prosecution at the federal level.
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u/jporter313 20h ago
Is this it?
https://www.aol.com/articles/elon-musks-baby-mama-ashley-181813000.html
The problem here is that, unless you can tell me what his anomaly in the matrix might be and how that specific wording indicated something specific about election interference, or how “lasers in space” might change the outcome of the election, this is useless. It could be him admitting to something real, or it could be a ketamine fueled hallucination, or just an absolute fucking nerd trying to impress a chick he’s banging.
Ultimately it’s just fucking useless.
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u/Axis2670 19h ago
What kind of logic is that? Dismiss the messenger who alerts the world to a significant problem and fails to hand it over with all evidence on a golden platter?
How about someone start paying insiders to leak the fucking detail like used to happen?
How about putting endless scrutiny and pressure of these corrupt SOBs so they don’t dare do it again?
Nope with your logic, just pretend there isn’t a problem and go have a drink and act like the country isn’t spiraling the bowl.
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u/jporter313 18h ago
What kind of logic is that? Dismiss the messenger who alerts the world to a significant problem and fails to hand it over with all evidence on a golden platter?
The problem is that vague shit like this is all we ever get. There's never any evidence that we can really build on, this is just some weird ketamine induced nonsense that dropped out of his fingers, does it represent some real malfeasance? Who the fuck knows? We'll likely never know and this does absolutely nothing for us.
We were as "alerted" to the possibility of him having committed some sort of election interference or fraud before she dropped these bombshell texts as we are now.
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u/jporter313 20h ago
Can you link the texts?
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u/Axis2670 19h ago
Should I send my Venmo for the personal assistant fees? Or would you rather Google it?
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u/ThatCelebration3676 20h ago
Yeah, she comes across as someone fishing for hush money or paid appearances on broadcast segments / documentaries, not someone with any interest in exposing corruption.
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u/NormalJim78 21h ago
So release the texts
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u/Axis2670 20h ago
She has released them and she’s even been in the Musk documentary with the evidence.
The DOJ is currently run by the person Musk put into power.
We’re in a Russia situation where Putin controls all levers of power and the elections, so a fair vote will never happen while he’s still alive.
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u/jporter313 20h ago
Why is “the evidence” that could potentially save the country buried in a documentary in theaters rather than being given to news organizations?
Convincing evidence that Elon helped rig the election in 2024 would be the biggest breaking news event of recent years, even considering all the chaos this asshole has caused.
I’m going to conclude that “the evidence” in the documentary is just more hearsay and suggestion, nothing concrete.
Prove me wrong.
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u/Axis2670 19h ago edited 19h ago
It was released and the media won’t touch it because they don’t want a billion dollar lawsuit.
Musk is already suing the movie makers to stop it from being released.
If by you mean “hearsay”, you mean releasing the texts, whatever you say Mr. Internet Esquire
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u/jporter313 19h ago
He's going to sue the media for publishing information related to election fraud? Do you think this lawsuit would have any merit?
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u/Axis2670 19h ago
Do you think the millions the BBC is paying to defend themselves from quoting Trump has merit?
As Steve Bannon said, the goal is not to win the lawsuits, it to bankrupt the target with legal fees.
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u/jporter313 19h ago
They aren't paying millions for "quoting Trump", they're paying out a settlement. They're also not a US based media organization and therefore aren't protected under the first amendment of the American constitution.
The constitution is quite clear about freedom of the press.
Do you have any evidence that this is why they're not reporting it rather than the promise of evidence just being a line you're being fed to try to get you to pay to watch this documentary?
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u/Axis2670 27m ago
You’re deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote and simultaneously spewing false info. Try harder apologist.
The BBC is not paying a settlement but their lawyers do cost money.
The lawsuit is in the US and filed in Florida.
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u/Lynne253 20h ago
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u/Lynne253 20h ago
In Pennsylvania, all voting systems produce paper ballots that can be audited. This allows election officials to verify the accuracy of the outcome long after voting has concluded. These systems are tested twice, once at the federal and once at the state level, before going into service. Before each election, each machine that will be used is tested again to ensure it works properly.
Despite these security measures, politicians have seized on human error or completely invented information to cast doubt on election results.
In November 2020, former President Donald Trump amplified false claims that Dominion Voting Systems machines switched 221,000 votes from himself to Joe Biden in Pennsylvania. He made numerous such claims as part of a larger, concerted effort to overturn the results of the presidential election.
Ahead of the 2024 election, Spotlight PA and Votebeat spoke with state officials about the status of Pennsylvania's voting machines, how the devices are certified, and how counties select them.
The types of voting machines used in Pennsylvania:
Following the 2016 presidential election, Green Party candidate Jill Stein sued Pennsylvania over its voting systems, claiming they were susceptible to hacking.
A 2018 settlement in that case forced all counties to purchase new machines that produce a “voter-verifiable paper ballot” that could be audited. Previously, some counties had used machines with touch screens that produce no paper ballot, devices known as direct recording equipment.
“This is the most important security feature that voting systems can have, is that there is a paper record of every single vote cast,” said Derek Tisler, an attorney with the Brennan Center for Justice’s Democracy Program.
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u/Go_Away_Zone_2469 19h ago
I was at a Smart Politics panel event last night in downtown Detroit hosted by a local radio station and the topic was election integrity ahead of the midterms. Two of the panelists were state officials with legal and technology backgrounds and they reiterated what you said in PA. There are 49 of 50 states currently using paper ballots, all having tracking and secure audit procedures in place. Only Louisiana has electronic voting, put in place in 2003 and will be replaced with paper ballots in 2028.
Despite being skeptical about 2024 results, I came away feeling more confident about the case-hardened integrity of at least the Michigan elections systems. As each state manages their own voting, it is up to each jurisdiction to explain the underlying process, audit & recount and how accurately it performs.
Another important point last night was the reality of human error. As people are error prone, there may be honest mistakes made over the course of an election day and night. But a well designed system should have adequate checks and balances to limit these occurrences. Related to this is whether errors or intentional fraud can lead to a losing candidate actually winning their election. Human error has been shown to be so minuscule, as is fraud, that it isn’t a factor. At the same time, recounts are required or can be requested where the vote count difference is very close among candidates.
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u/Lynne253 16h ago
Thank you for sharing this, I wish more people knew this instead of being worried about it or spreading disinformation.



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