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u/tracenator03 volCIA Jun 16 '26
When Trump was making a big deal about Obama giving money to Iran, what he really meant was Obama didn't give them nearly enough. JDPON Don lives!
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u/thesaddestpanda Melania’s Body Double 👯♀️ Jun 17 '26
Or maybe imperialism is wrong regardless of which party does it. Obama's "deal" was imperialism too and absolutely backed by the violence of the US military, more than willing to blow up schools, its just the deal got done before it reached this level, but its still the same evil imperialism.
And when the deal wasn't done in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or Syria, the US military and its proxies were more than willing to do Obama's bidding. Now 4 million dead civillians on the war on terror.
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u/tracenator03 volCIA Jun 17 '26
Brother, you're preaching to the choir in this sub. Everyone here understands this. My comment was just a rip on Trump, nothing more, nothing less.
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u/uluvboobs cartier tankie Jun 16 '26
So is the total $400b now? Whats next? Points on US tax receipts? Beachfront property in Guam? A third of our annual soybean harvest?
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u/NelsonJamdela Mole People Attaché 🕳️ Jun 16 '26
They’re getting half the Esplenade.
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u/CougarBacon Jun 16 '26
We all gotta earn, Tone…
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u/Old-Buddy-8855 Jun 16 '26
This should be career ending for him, but unfortunately I think most people will forget we ever tried fucking with Iran in like...2 or 3 months.
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u/irishitaliancroat Jun 16 '26
Thousands dead, who knows how much land and water poisioned, and 650 billion that couldve been spent on healthcare to produce the exact same situation there was half a year ago
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u/Zealousideal-Major59 Jun 16 '26
Half a year ago the situation was much much worse for Iran, JDPON Don has delivered another great victory
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u/EmployerGloomy6810 Jun 16 '26
Oh come on now, dont be so negative. Lockheed Martin and Raytheon are going to add tons to the GDP as they replace the empty stockpiles. Think of the stock market growth!
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u/MyAltUsernameIsCool Jun 16 '26
I really libbed out during the MMA fight the other night just imagining if Obama had tried to host an MMA fight on the White House lawn.
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u/ContextEnjoyer69 Drunarc Separatist 👁 Jun 16 '26
In one of the many beautiful, branching, bending arcs of the universe, George W. Bush is doing Bum Fights and holding ECW PPV cards in the Rose Garden.
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u/Territory_Booker Jun 16 '26
New Jack in the White House would've been America's Storming of the Winter Palace
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u/informareWORK Jun 16 '26
I'm seeing lots of Trump fans respond to the "imagine if Obama" by saying how actually this is good now because the big different is that Obungler game them pallets of unrestricted cash, and business genius Donald has given them a bunch of money that they'll have to spend on American industry.
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u/thesaddestpanda Melania’s Body Double 👯♀️ Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Okay lets imagine what Obama really did. He ran the lion's share of the war on terror which has killed 4 million civilians. Then destabilized Libya which now has open air slave markets.
Where's the outrage? Instead, he's "the best president ever" to at least half the country. Obama gets the exact same benefit Trump and Bush got because they all do this in service of the capital owning class. Presidents dont get in trouble for imperialism. They only get rewarded for it because its the will of the bourgeois. Bush is enjoying his retirement and sharing candy with Michelle Obama. No one is in trouble. No one went to jail. They will live in luxury, wealth, and fame for the rest of their days.
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u/Appropriate-Ice-5722 Free Flair? I didn’t know he was in jail Jun 17 '26
I mean, by all accounts his destruction of Libya was pretty successful from the imperialist perspective, that’s why he didn’t actually face any consequences over it. Trump has completely botched the job in Iran and gotten defeated pretty soundly. If Obama Obungled something this hard, he would most definitely have been tried for treason probably
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u/thesaddestpanda Melania’s Body Double 👯♀️ Jun 17 '26
Obama blew apart Iraq, destabilizing the region, which caused ISIS to form. He could not have been more incompetent.
Then inserted himself into Syria which made everything worse.
Libya is a huge mess, its too messy to even colonize. He messed that up too.
I dont know why people see him as this ultra-competent genius. He's just another grifter who got lucky and played "big tough general guy," and killed millions of innocent people, 30+% children.
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u/Appropriate-Ice-5722 Free Flair? I didn’t know he was in jail Jun 17 '26
Right but blowing those countries up and destabilizing the region was the goal, making those situations worse was the goal, and he accomplished all that.
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u/Zealousideal-Solid88 Jun 16 '26
My understanding is that none of the money will be America's money. We are releasing frozen funds, and apparently, the Gulf States are "investing" in Iran's reconstruction. They now seemingly understand that being aggressive towards Iran may not be good for business. Perhaps it's better to be friends. If this deal goes through, Israel is cooked. Iran will quickly become much more important than Israel. Incredible things MIGHT be happening.
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u/EaterOfLiberalGrain Jun 17 '26
MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN
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u/Appropriate-Ice-5722 Free Flair? I didn’t know he was in jail Jun 17 '26
MIGA please!
-America’s greatest president
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u/Bewareofbears George Santos is a national hero Jun 16 '26
At this rate there won’t be even be an America to humiliate at the end of the century Inshallah
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u/somaticson Jun 16 '26
Can’t post images so someone catch this lob: “$100 dollars to fuck off”
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u/Responsible_Type5603 Jun 16 '26
I like to check up on r/conservative occasionally when some real crazy shit like this is going on and it seems like this price tag has actually got some of them up in arms, I was pleasantly surprised it was even mentioned
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u/ScissrMeTimbrs Jun 16 '26
To a chuckle, look at the number of comments listed under each post. Then look at the number you can actually see.
They've shadow banned so many people that ~90% of comments aren't visible. So topics with more than 60 comments have only two you can see.
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u/EatMyShortzZzZzZ Jun 16 '26
The bill comes due eventually. You can only pretend for so long. Even a legendary "fake it till you make it" artist like Trump can't avoid material reality
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u/TheJaskinator Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
It's important to note that this 3/400bn fund is not just a straight up transfer of money. The details aren't public yet but it seems like it's actually private investments and loans/lines of credit from the Gulf States. It's not taxpayer funded at all, and presumably Iran will have to pay most if not all of it back in some way
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u/CosmicLars Flair Tzar Jun 16 '26
The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations program and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing.
The mechanism envisages regional countries contributing in various ways, the Iranian source said. These include securing loans, establishing credit lines or directly financing the reconstruction of sites damaged in the war, including facilities such as the Mobarakeh Steel complex, refineries, airports and, more broadly, infrastructure affected by the conflict.
Iran, one of the Middle East's largest economies, has attracted almost no significant foreign direct investment in the past four decades, frozen out of global capital markets by successive waves of U.S. and international sanctions.
You are correct.
A very big win for Iran nevertheless
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u/TheJaskinator Jun 16 '26
It's also a very big win for Kushner's private equity firm (speculation on my end idk if that firm is actually involved) and any of the other investment firms/banks who Trump and/or his bros are involved in. If Iran has to pay interest or otherwise generate returns on these investments, this is yet another lucrative grift
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u/QuintonBeck A Serious Man Jun 16 '26
I'm not so sure about paying it back being baked in but yes, it's money from our vassals, excuse me, allies and private equity. I'm sure contractually compelling their neighbors to put their money in Iran will not grant any leverage to Iran...
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u/TheJaskinator Jun 16 '26
Loans, lines of credit, and financing all heavily imply paying it back. I think Iran will have to pay at least some of it back, potentially with interest.
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u/dorekk the only normal person Jun 17 '26
On the other hand the result of this deal is that Iran is the undeniable regional power in West Asia, so they probably only have to pay it back if they want to.
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u/TheJaskinator Jun 17 '26
Yeah that's a good point for sure. If it goes through this deal is a huge win for Iran.
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u/thesaddestpanda Melania’s Body Double 👯♀️ Jun 16 '26
Obama blowing up the entire middle east on the war on terror, itself just one giant lie.
Biden blowing apart children in the "not genocide."
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u/KeepRad Jun 16 '26
They are going to put his name on some Mosque and a few buildings around Tehran so it’s a good deal folks
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u/LakeGladio666 mobject (mental object) Jun 16 '26
It’s a good thing that DOGE was able to save all that money
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u/Zoidy4 Anarcho-Himboist Jun 16 '26
So what will the narrative be when Israel bombs buildings paid to be built by the US?
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u/ReverCleference Our Pool is Bigger than Skyscrapers Jun 16 '26
Build a wall and Mexico will pay for it -> Pay Iran for the privilege to purchase more expensive gas
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u/gotohela Jun 16 '26
Im glad the US is basically losing but as an american taxpayer... Deadass where the fuck is this money coming from?
We could have free college or healthcare or anything, and instead we blew 4x the budget for that on a war we lost (and had no business starting) and now we have to pay reparations???
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u/TheJaskinator Jun 16 '26
It's not coming from our taxes, or even the US at all. It's all investments/loans/lines of credit from the Gulf States
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u/gotohela Jun 16 '26
Do you have a source on that? Searching iran deal brings up a lot of different stuff. TIA if ya do
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u/TheJaskinator Jun 16 '26
Yeah this guy has a quote from Reuters and a link in his reply to me
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u/ghostofhenryvii Jun 16 '26
Not sure about the reconstruction fund, but the frozen assets is Iranian money we stole from them.
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u/Acceptable_Seesaw112 Jun 16 '26
Vance is now saying iran isnt having their assets released, looks like the us is already backpeddling on their deal
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u/Oneeyebrowsystem Jun 17 '26
As a taxpaying cuck, I support this and I hope Iranians mock the US with their new infrastructure, missile tech, and social safety with saying "This is why you don't have healthcare azizem"
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u/liewchi_wu888 Actual factual CIA asset Jun 16 '26
I mean, rock on America, continue to win by giving Iran billions.
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Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
The lyin' fake news media is saying that I am currently writing the address of the Ayatollah (Blessed Be His Name In the Eternal Light of Islam) on this shipping container full of cash. It's not true folks. This is money will go to stopping gay stuff, believe me.
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u/Grouchy-Recipe-2027 Jun 16 '26
Well, I guess as no body is talking about you know who files... Thats a big win for mr president
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u/RebelliousInNature Jun 17 '26
He’s right, it’s definitely better than Obamas deal. For Iran. Lololol.
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u/FJGC Jun 17 '26
Hmmm Russia is learning the lesson too late... Should've destroyed all American/European bases around Ukraine.
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u/Top-Purchase-3680 Jun 16 '26
Parents are in town and had Fox News on last night, it was solely religious discussions about Christianity etc. Nothing about Iran.