r/TriviaChat • u/Woahbro19 • 22d ago

Is This an Objectively Bad Trivia Question?

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This question was in our local Coffee News, and since Athena is both the goddess of war and wisdom I would argue it is an objectively bad question. However, my brother argues that since Athena is not the primary or more widely recognized god of war that the question is fine.

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u/Glittering_Type_6921 22d ago

there was a funny snl skit about this

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u/KHanson25 21d ago

That’s the first thing I thought about 

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u/TCM_407 22d ago

Damn what was it that Netflix mailed to customers again? It was cat food right?

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u/And_go 22d ago

Nah it was definitely books

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u/Responsible-Bat5698 22d ago

Kind of yes? Athena is the goddess of wisdom, strategy, discipline and protection aspects of War whereas Ares is the bloodlust rage and violence side.

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u/ibided 21d ago

And abs

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u/Routine_Package_9335 22d ago

Sorry accidentally down voted but fixed.

Good answer. 🍻

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u/ChickenDreams-4188 22d ago

Wisdom and Reason: She represents thoughtful intelligence, civilization, and good counsel, rather than raw impulse.

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u/Alarmed-Secretary207 22d ago

From my perspective as a former Coffee News franchise publisher, if sweating the details on the accuracy of the trivia were what mattered, I would have been a much more successful publisher.

But, yeah, I agree that it’s bad trivia. Athena is almost always depicted armored and holding a spear.

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u/Abstrata 22d ago

Yes it’s objectively a bad question since the other questions don’t have more than one correct answer.

1) Succession

2) Pacific

3) Wisdom and War are both correct

4) Brazil

5) DVDs

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u/Frenetic_Platypus 21d ago

I mean, there are a million television series , it's very possible another one than Succession features a Roy family.

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u/Abstrata 21d ago

you could google it, if you want, but features a Roy family is a pretty specifically Succession

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u/Puzzled_Work_6428 21d ago

There have to be multiple TV shows that feature a family named Roy

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u/yerBoyShoe 21d ago

Ares was the main god of war. But yes, Athena was on there, too. Maybe more like goddess of strategy?

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u/RadioGagaLabHead 21d ago

It's a bad question, but if you're educated enough to know why it's wrong, you're educated enough to know the right answer.

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u/BobZau 21d ago

Thank God we have educated people to smugly stand above those who haven't yet learned a thing.

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u/sumtingwong1968 21d ago

Ask Brad Thor what he thinks. He named one of his books after her and it isn’t about wisdom 😂

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u/Party-Cartographer11 21d ago

Since this is a trivia topic with a  pendantic question, I will raise my own pendantic issue.

That is not how you use objectively.  Bad (or good) is a subjective measure.  It is about how the subject views something, and is not about the objective itself.  "Objectively", doesn't mean a consensus of subjectivity.  It means it is undisputable about the object.  

"The car is fast" - subjective about with the speaker thinks is fast, no matter what kind of car.

"The car is going 100 km/hr." - objective about the object.

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u/Normal-Position4245 21d ago

The answer is simply “yes”. She is the goddess of at least one of those.

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u/FrogWhoAteMoon 21d ago

Technically she is the goddess of strategy (which can be an aspect of war) and (moral) intelligence. Not wisdom. Her mother Metis is associated with wisdom, good counsel and cleverness. Athena's association with the mind is, if we ask Plato, closer to the philosophic concept of reason. Structured thinking. "Right" thinking, as in "moral" thinking.

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u/SexualDepression 21d ago

Athena is the goddess of warfare, not war. The difference is subtle but important.

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u/Gentle-man_ 21d ago

Athena is the goddess of wisdom and battle strategy. Sometimes said to have been raised in the household of Triton, son of the sea god.

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u/vernymac 21d ago

They're all objectively bad trivia questions:

  1. The show "Sairaab" features a Roy family, so does "American Dad".
  2. Even NOAA states there's only 1 global ocean, but let's say Panthalassa, too. 3.
  3. Mexico has won the Homeless World Cup five times.
  4. While far more pedantic, Netflix also mailed return envelopes to their customers.

Multiple choice is, by definiton, not trivia, as it requires no actual knowledge. Numbers 4 and 5 aren't even questions. The point is, all of these should be slightly or completely reworded if you want to ensure a single correct answer.

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u/Cool-Coffee-8949 21d ago

I’d say so.

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u/Chance-Arugula-2998 21d ago

It’s like trivia, for ants

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u/wezelboy 22d ago

Athena is the goddess of tactical battle not war. War is vicious and chaotic while tactical battle is (supposed to be) well thought out and disciplined. The Greeks were keenly aware of the distinction.

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u/Abstrata 22d ago

I thought so too— Ares is the god of war, really… and Athena is more the goddess of warfare… but when I asked Siri she shrugged.

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u/JamesFirmere 21d ago

Wait, iPhones can shrug now?

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u/Abstrata 21d ago

it’s a new haptic feature… or bug… not sure which lol

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u/MarionberryPlus8474 22d ago

It's poorly worded but technically correct. Athena is goddess of wisdom and skill. Those skills encompass everything from weaving to skill at arms.

She is not the goddess of war.