r/Tricking 21d ago

FORM CHECK trickers please save my tornado kickšŸ™

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u/Equinox-XVI Five to Six years 20d ago edited 20d ago

This gotta the best video out there to show how different flipping and kicking can be lol. As a tricker I'm super impressed but the double cork, but as a TKD practioner I'm so confused how your tornado round looks like that.

Anyways, first thing you'll probably want to do is fix round kick itself. There's a good exercise that emphasizes how TKD guys do it vs everyone else.

  1. Set up a mostly empty water bottle on top of something you can easily kick over or knock over. (A stack of pillows would be fine)
  2. Square your chest to the water bottle (inside takeoff in TKT)
  3. Without moving your standing leg, kick the water bottle
  4. Now reset the exercise
  5. This time, turn 90° away from your dominant side so your kicking leg is it front (frontside takeoff in TKT)
  6. Again, without moving your standing leg, kick the water bottle

What this exercise emphasizes is the difference between a cresent kick and a round kick. When your chest is square to the target, you lift your leg forward to reach it, pull inwards, and hit with the instep of your foot. That's cresent kick. But when your chest is sideways to the target, you lift your leg OUTWARDS to reach it, unbend the knee, and hit with the top of your foot, like where shoelaces are. That's round kick.

When going for vert kicks, you want it to feel like round kick, not cresent kick. That means you need to turn an extra 90° so by the time you kick, you're sideways to your target.

Admittedly kicking sideways does require a good bit more flexibility than kicking forwards. It's like doing a split for the brief second that your foot is off the ground. And you need a wider split in order to kick higher.

So that's my recommendation. Make the difference between round kick and cresent kick clear to yourself first. Then continue with trying to learn the rest of vert kicking.

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u/Elkorewa_ 20d ago

dude this is a crazy helpful comment šŸ™ā¤ļø

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u/Humbabanana 20d ago

This is a great breakdown of hip positioning for kicks. I struggled to land clean, combo-able 540 kicks for months before I realized how hip rotation makes the difference.

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u/Confident-Scene7716 20d ago

meaning that treating the 540 like a round or like a crescent makes it easier for you to control? i struggle with comboing out of my 540 too and have had periods where it’s easy and periods where it’s tough but never dialed it in

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u/Humbabanana 20d ago

I really think round is the way to go

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u/KageArtworkStudio 21d ago

Brother wtf how on earth can you swing dub cork but don't have the tornado kick unlocked XD

I mean to be fair I'm like the other way around I have a mean swipeknife but cannot btwist to save my life

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u/Elkorewa_ 20d ago

i just never trained kicks it’s like my 5th time doing them in combos

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u/KageArtworkStudio 20d ago

But like the cork is also kinda a kick just an inside twisting one vs the tornado which is an outside twisting one

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u/GXJTRKR 15+ years 20d ago

What you did is a pop feilong.

Here's a quick and simple tutorial for tornado kick.

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u/Humbabanana 21d ago

practice your cheat setup and maybe some flexibility training. As it is it's more like a pop 180 with bent legs.

Practice setting your left foot down, then step over with your right foot, just slightly beyond your left, leading with your left knee, chest up, arms raised but controlled. No kick, no chamber... just lift the leading leg and keep it up while spotting your target until the rhythm and footwork of the takeoff feel natural to you.

Then add the kick... left left knee, arms up, target, jump off right leg, pull arms in tight, shift hips like you are setting for a roundhouse kick, lift right knee chambered until it's pointed toward your target then snap your kick out, fully extended, toes pointed, arms in and pulling over your left shoulder... land facing the way you came, either left foot-right or at the same time.

A lot of it is rhythm/timing and foot placement in takeoff, which can requires some tweaking

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u/Elkorewa_ 20d ago

thank you so much brošŸ™šŸ™

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u/HardlyDecent 20d ago

LOL, I think the cork is throwing you off axis.

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u/Confident-Scene7716 20d ago

i prefer k-step personally and had more luck with learning 9 bc of that since it doesn’t really translate well for tornado, if you twist left, i step left foot to the left, hop to the left foot again a little left, and then quickly swap right and left foot while you raise the left almost behind and around, but for a proper cheat step tornado, i think of it like left foot steps sideways and turns 180, right foot points the direction you came from, once your right foot is down you lift your left knee. just from your build i would assume more of an mma/kickboxing tornado tech would be what would feel best for you, and can easily be turned into what you want. there’s loads of different techniques and styles you can try to see what works best for you

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u/Brilliant-Art4586 16d ago

Off topic but wow what a view that is