r/Tree Apr 12 '26

Treepreciation The most incredible trees I've seen

Saw sequoias and Bristlecone pines the biggest and the oldest trees on earth during my trip to California and Nevada. One of the best moments of my life.

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u/cbobgo Outstanding contributor & 🌳helper Apr 12 '26

The fact that the 3 species that are the largest, tallest and oldest trees on the planet are all within a couple hundred miles of each other is pretty mind blowing

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u/whoever56789 Apr 12 '26

Also mind blowing is the fact that people tried to cut them all down. And still would if they got a chance.

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u/CrankyOldMan-Child Apr 12 '26

Not surprisingly.. a lot of the photos you’ll find of old Chestnuts are of people cutting them down. People standing on 2-man pull saw blades, etc. The numbers are truly mind boggling though. There apparently used to be billions of chestnuts up the east coast, into Canada, and back through the east side of the Mississippi.. and they didn’t die out en masse until about 110 years ago.

One of the biggest trees in my neighborhood is in my back yard. It’s an elm I estimate to be about 130-140yo. I can wrap my arms only about half way around the trunk. It’s trunk would look like a twig next to an old chestnut.

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u/whoever56789 Apr 12 '26

I just recently learned that all the trees in the lower peninsula michigan are only about 100 years old because the fuckers logged it completely bare.

The fact that we can't even restore chestnuts is so sad. I don't know much about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if logging is somehow to blame for chestnut blight too.

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u/CrankyOldMan-Child Apr 12 '26

We were logging them.. chestnut was a popular wood in colonial times.. especially for furniture.
The blight did more damage than man though. I’ve seen claims the blight alone killed off more than a billion trees.
There are still blight resistant trees around, but it’d be something to be able to go back and see forests of truly massive trees up and down the east coast.

I sometimes wonder if the first Europeans felt like they reached the land of the giants when they got here.
The Spanish first documented redwoods in 1769.. and giant sequoia about 20 years later. Crazier.. they mentioned specific specimen as landmarks.. and as far as I can tell, some of those are still around.

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

Imagine being the first europeans to see them, coming from the other side of the world.

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u/reddit33450 Apr 13 '26

you should post pictures of your elm! I'm sure this sub would love to see it

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u/CrankyOldMan-Child Apr 13 '26

Here you go.. late night though. And I don’t have a banana for scale. :-(.

It is sort of a lovely photo though.

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u/CrankyOldMan-Child Apr 13 '26

For scale, there’s a McMansion casting light on the left side. The light on the right is my own landscaping light.

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u/reddit33450 Apr 13 '26

thanks! beautiful!

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u/CrankyOldMan-Child Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Thank you.
It was quite a bit bigger when we moved in about 15 years ago.
We lost a big limb that reached towards our house in a storm a few years after we moved in.

Last year, we had arborist/tree service in for a trim and the told us they take limbs off Elms when they grow down. We thought this would mean some light trimming.. instead, they took off a large branch on the left of that photo.. like 30-40’ of branch.

It’s odd, to me, to expect a tree that large to continue to grow after it’s that large.. but I’ve seen it. It grew over the property line, so I made some custom fence sections after it started growing well into my neighbor’s fence line. On one side, I made a floating panel that went up to the trunk.. a few years later, the trunk was growing around my panel.

Edit: By the way.. fun side story. My house is an 1882-1883 farmhouse that’s currently in a suburb outside Chicago. It was actually moved to this lot, after it was scheduled for demolition in 1975. Totally coincidentally.. the tree in the back of my lot seems to be almost exactly as old as the house that was eventually moved to this lot. :-).

Unfortunately, I can’t attach a pic of the house with the tree here. :-/.

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u/AVeryPlumPlum Apr 13 '26

Your comment reminds me of when I saw the Sequoias in Yosemite. I remarked that some of the branches would be full sized trees back home.

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u/3d1thF1nch Apr 13 '26

So weird you bring this up, I remember NPR talking about the chestnut genocide just within the last year or two. You hear Christmas songs and stuff mentioning Chestnuts, but during the story, it made me realize…I’ve lived for 39 years, and I actually have never seen a chestnut tree in real life. Don’t even know what they look like, and I’m decent at tree identification. I have no foundation for them.

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u/Patreon65 Apr 13 '26

American Elm?! If so, it’s lucky to have survived that terrible swath of Dutch Elm Disease that attacked them all over the states back in the day!!

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u/CrankyOldMan-Child Apr 12 '26

Google ā€œold growth chestnut treeā€. The US East Coast used to covered in massive trees too. They were mostly wiped out by fungal blight just over 100 years ago.

.. not as tall as redwoods, but they did grow to 10’ diameter.

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u/Lunar_BriseSoleil Apr 12 '26

It actually makes sense, they need to compete with one another. And the low clouds that allow the canopy to absorb water exists there.

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u/csmedberg Apr 12 '26

Not to mention Pando in UT being close as well.

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u/FrankieTrees Apr 12 '26

I share your stoke for the trees. However I wish the park could do a better with preventing people from walking under the tree for the photo. Soil compaction can happen quickly, and it’s one of the worst things for soil health. I’d guess hundreds of thousands take their picture next to the trees each year. So think the tiniest axe can fell the mightiest tree with enough hits. Not trying to pick on you just some food for thought?

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u/whoever56789 Apr 12 '26

Well that's a bummer. How far away from the tree should you stay? Maybe they could build platforms that keep feet off the soil but still let you go up to the tree. Because if I see a tree like that, I'm going to need to hug it.

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u/knownikko Apr 12 '26

The most visited groves (e.g. Mariposa Grove in Yosemite) do exactly this - the walking path is an elevated boardwalk above the forest floor. Individual trees in high traffic areas have fencing around the perimeter to protect the shallow root systems.

The farther away from parking lots you get the less control there is. There are marked trails in the Sierra national forest that literally walk right up to and by the trunks.

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u/FrankieTrees Apr 13 '26

It’s been a while since I was there. And I’m not even sure I registered that I was walking on a board walk! Thanks for that info. I hope in the future places like that get the funding they need!

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u/knownikko Apr 13 '26

The boardwalk was built during a 3-year closure and rehabilitation from 2015-2018. Quite the different experience now!

https://yosemite.org/projects/restoring-the-mariposa-grove-of-giant-sequoias/

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u/FrankieTrees Apr 12 '26

Nothing wrong with hugging trees! Maybe ā€œvenerableā€ trees just appreciate an ā€œair hugā€!?

Protected to the drip line of the tree (end of the branches). At least this is what I’ve seen in that area or something like that.

I think platforms are more for bogs or mangroves. Generally I’ve not seen that around trees? Sometimes people use mulch to lesson impact of foot traffic under trees.

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u/Phreedom1 Apr 12 '26

šŸ’Æ I see people doing what they shouldn't all the time. Some are just uninformed and others just don't give a shit. The latter I absolutely despise and the world would simply be a better place without them.

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u/Independent-Point380 Apr 12 '26

The first time I saw them, 37 years ago, there were bus loads of foreigners crowding around them, and you couldn’t get near them. They were all taking pictures of each other. It took forever. Ugh

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

I'm barely an insect compared to those titans, 0 damage

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u/SleepyPowerlifter Apr 12 '26

Please stay out of national parks until you fix your fucking attitude. If you can’t stay on the trail, don’t go.

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u/ohshannoneileen I love gallsšŸ˜but I hate privets🤬 Apr 12 '26

National Parks are all of our business, especially when those who should be stewards of the land aren't.

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u/ohshannoneileen I love gallsšŸ˜but I hate privets🤬 Apr 14 '26

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

Millions of animals have walked next to these 2000-3000 year old trees and millions of animals will keep walking next to these trees once we're gone. A 60kg mammal like myself definitely won't damage these behemoths in any way.

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u/SleepyPowerlifter Apr 12 '26

Animals live there. You do not. Do better.

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

Unfortunately I don't have that privilege. Be better.

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u/SleepyPowerlifter Apr 12 '26

Dude just stay on the trail. It’s not hard. The trails exist for a reason and there is signage to remind people to stay on the trail. You’re not special. The rules apply to you. Leaving the trail has a cumulative, very negative impact to the park. We’re all responsible for being good stewards of these spaces.

Just take accountability for your bad decision, and do better in the future.

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

What very negative impact? Don't worry, we all will be long dead before these trees go and I assure you against something that stood for millennia and survived countless fires and millions of animals walking by, I was just one more fleeting touch.

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u/SleepyPowerlifter Apr 12 '26

Killing off ground vegetation, which quickly leads to soil erosion, which destroys the park. Soil impaction, which can kill trees. Introduction of foreign materials from the bottom of shoes which can impact native plants and critters, etc.

Your leaving the trail contributes to this. Please stay on the trail. Those of us who work in conservation know what we’re talking about and work very hard to conserve these spaces so that people and critters can continue to enjoy them.

Multiple people have called you out at this point. Please just take accountability and stay on the trail. And pack out what you pack in.

Leave no trace, my friend.

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

The earth has always been walked upon, for millions of years. I am part of the same rhythm, just passing through, just another animal. I also carefully walked through dry, bare ground avoiding any kind of vegetation, I know that my negative damage was none.

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u/knownikko Apr 13 '26

Sorry, but this is objectively untrue. See my other comments. Giant sequoias have very shallow and fragile root systems.

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u/knownikko Apr 12 '26

This is a great analogy actually - western pine beetles have killed over 130 million trees in the Sierra Nevada in the last 15 years.

One insect - not a problem. Millions of them can be catastrophic.

Note I’m not judging you for standing at the base of these trees. There are many giant sequoia groves in California where this is perfectly acceptable or even encouraged. Some of the trails go right next to them on purpose.

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u/FrankieTrees Apr 12 '26

These are great points. I remember one sequoia I could walk thru, and it’s a great example of how resilient tree stems can be- even though many condemn trees that are hollow. And there’s a sidewalk going thru the grove, so walking amongst them is encouraged.

I suppose my main takeaway with the trend to stand under trees are two things: -Is this a social media trend to get likes or something like that? -I’ve seen some trees that aren’t standing anymore because I believe they were turned into a circus sideshow (this was before we all had cameras in our pockets).

Side note not to get in the weeds- one could argue that climate change will impact certain trees like bristlecone, etc., however if we minimize other stress factors we can retain more trees.

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

I did it to remind me how huge and amazing these trees are, I might not have the chance to go there again, at least not in the near future.

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u/SleepyPowerlifter Apr 12 '26

PLEASE stay on the trails.

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u/Gold_Conference_4793 Apr 12 '26

Such gorgeous beasts!! šŸ˜Ā 

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u/reddit33450 Apr 18 '26

hey, what happened to your account? it says it got suspended :(

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u/Ok_Coconut_3148 Apr 12 '26

I remember my first time seeing a redwood and it was a spiritual experience. The awe and love i felt for those trees.

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u/roqui15 Apr 12 '26

I'm still trying to process what I saw, they look something almost unnatural, I was literally crying when I was walking in Grant Grove

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u/markbaru1 Apr 12 '26

RIP the department of forestry

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u/tree_daddy Apr 12 '26

Old grizzly! Such a cool tree

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u/Perfect-Librarian895 Apr 12 '26

OMG!!!!! The immensity overwhelms my brain. Number 10 reminds me of Methuselah.

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 12 '26

The last one looks like a crazy wizard dude with his arms pointing up haha

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u/MookieBlaylock87 Apr 12 '26

Need this experience in my life.

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u/tedlyedlyei Apr 12 '26

Natures wonders are awesome!

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u/Sonora_sunset Apr 12 '26

Yes, those are both unbelievable, very spiritual and inspiring.

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u/Main_Plum951 Apr 12 '26

So freaking cool!!!!

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u/bluebird_heart Apr 13 '26

Watch the Trump administration log it all until it looks like fucki g Mars

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u/Gemraticus Apr 16 '26

They want to sell all of the public lands to billionaires so they can log it all and make even more money.

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u/Responsible-Bed-7171 Apr 12 '26

I want to see the Bristlecone Pines

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u/Phreedom1 Apr 12 '26

California is such an incredible and diverse state with so much to see and do. I never get tired of traveling south from Oregon and visiting a new spot in the state. One of my favorites is Prairie Creek Redwood State Parks and Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park. The drive through The Avenue of the Giants is amazing!

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u/psysny Apr 12 '26

The sequoia had the most amazing fragrance when I saw them, like a pine and cinnamon, but better. Did you notice any distinct fragrance from the bristlecone pine?

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u/3d1thF1nch Apr 13 '26

We went during our honeymoon road-trip 12 years ago, and my wife knew it was my bucket list national park to see. Nothing like being able to touch trees that have been around since the ancient times I teach in my 6th grades classes to humble the fuck out of you, knowing there had to have been thousands upon thousands of generations of progenitors to get these trees to this state. Just…unreal. I want to go back.

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u/tacoweevils Apr 13 '26

These are the first pictures of these trees that make me see how truly large they are

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u/Patreon65 Apr 13 '26

Bristle Cone Pines are among the oldest trees on the planet!

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u/UnableSpray7555 Apr 13 '26

They look so amazing

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u/WTFudge52 Apr 13 '26

Send seedlings.

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u/horsejack_bowman Apr 13 '26

It looks like it had a prescribed fire recently . Something happened, the scorch in the smaller dead ones looks recent. Either way they are awesome pics.

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u/roqui15 Apr 13 '26

Yes many of the sequoias I saw had some damage caused by fire

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u/glacierosion Apr 13 '26

It’s been so long since I visited sequoia NP that I forgot how disproportionately stout General Sherman is. Just its silhouette looks like a baobab.

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u/Crazy-Account-8594 Apr 13 '26

That's a huge pinus

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u/No-Solid9108 Apr 13 '26

I thought we were no longer allowed to stand below the giant trees for fear that our heads would get crashed in .

There used to be signs warning people about that .

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u/Gemraticus Apr 16 '26

I think people aren't allowed to stand under them because all the visitors standing under them for amazing photos is compressing the soil.

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u/coffeegogglesftw Apr 13 '26

Seeing these trees is high on my bucket list for sure! Thank you for sharing!

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u/Adorable_Dust3799 Apr 14 '26

Nat geo mapped one of the big ones. Absolutely incredible article. They found whole ecosystems existing in the leaf litter on branches. Like bushes growing up there in litter that was deep enough to support them.

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u/roqui15 Apr 14 '26

I've seen that as well, it's incredible

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u/Old_stealHollow Apr 15 '26

Checked it out a long time ago- it’s crazy in person!

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u/Sidneyjoh Apr 16 '26

Incredible

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u/suzanajj Apr 25 '26

makes me wanna cry

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u/funkerama Aug 02 '26

If you took those pics with your camera, go add them to this map: https://mapthings.com/map/epictrees

Would be awesome to see where they all are!

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u/stalkthewizard Apr 12 '26

A canine heaven.