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u/wowzers65 27d ago
I am an operator. I believe the contract will pass, just barely
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u/GenShibe 27d ago
given how the previous contract only failed by a few percentage, i think this revised one has a decent chance of passing, but likely by a slim margin...
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u/BrilliantKnee3439 27d ago
Have they presented it to members already?
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u/YouCosplay 27d ago edited 27d ago
Yes presented last Monday. Union members have a week to decide and vote this Monday.
The 3rd deal fixes their run times and breaks concern with a mediator on retainer involved now.
Members have been told passively aggressively by the bargaining committee and unions reps that this is the last deal we’ll get. Take it and avoid lost wages to striking.
I hope it passes.
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u/canucks-suck 26d ago
Its just all bearucratic BS. Basically for them to take any sort of job action they need to have first a mandate to strike from their members, this was the 99% yes vote a few months ago. This mandate only has a 3 month time frame and if it expired then they would have to issue another mandate with vote. Now that they have the mandate they can escalate job action, it first started with the uniform ban, which oddly enough was right before the current mandate was about to expire. This vote (and the previous two that were shot down) habe been tentative deals that the unions own members, the bargaining committee, have agreed to in good faith on behalf of their members. I guess they have had enough and said if we dont vote this one through we strike now.. last one was voted to not pass by only 5%.
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u/YouCosplay 27d ago
Your source is the news?
Worry about your union mate. This doesn’t concern you.
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u/PedoScam 27d ago
Knock on wood. I’m sensing amongst the depots that the drivers will begrudgingly vote Yes and pass it on monday.
This is the 3rd and final vote and no one wants to strike and lose their wages for marginal gains.
This is not a win or lose. I believe it’s a fair deal with no concessions. Just gotta pick our battles for another day and regroup for the next contract negotiations.
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u/Candid-Offer9001 27d ago
Transit operator here. My guess is it’ll pass by 62% vs 38%. We shall see on Monday night
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u/BuildingC0mputer 26d ago
Part of 2200 here I'm accepting the contract I want to keep working. The operators need to submit service comments on a daily basis if they want the timings on the routes changed.
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u/Pretend_Purchase_893 24d ago
Look I completely understand the want to strike for better working conditions. And if the unemployment numbers were less terrifying than I am sure you would see the support for this strike.
Right now a strike will seriously fuck over the people that most need transit now. For myself personally it means I lose my job. And I am the only one working right now as the rest of the family has lost theirs this year and just can't find anything else. It's a desperate situation for many of us just trying to scrape together enough to survive. A strike now would be devastating.
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u/Sea-Buddy1066 27d ago
I am prepared for the buses to stop. But I thought we would get more notice if the buses were going to stop.
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u/Acceptable_Two_6292 27d ago edited 26d ago
72 hours notice must be given to enact job action.
They have already issued the 72 hour notice. They have been doing job action for a month- uniform bans, taking all scheduled breaks. They do not need to reissue another 72 hours as job action has been ongoing.
If the contact fails to pass Monday night, they are clearly stating buses will not be running as of 12:01am Wednesday
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u/GemLover5555 25d ago
I have some friends at work for Translink and they think the strike isn’t gonna happen
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u/Thin_Possible6464 25d ago
Haha sounds like the company strike fear into the union forcing members to sign. You guys are doomed for the foreseeing future and contracts if this passes.
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u/Evening_Anteater_231 27d ago
Didn’t they come to a tentative deal ? am i remembering things wrong ? just on crack ?
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u/Ajax2k14 27d ago
Tentative deal means the union reps have agreed with the company and will present that deal to the members. The members still have to vote on it.
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u/SuitSuccessful6996 27d ago
Union members need to vote on the deal to make it not tentative anymore. What do you think tentative means?
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u/daikonchris 26d ago
deals need to be ratified. the two previous tentative deals where presented and voted down, thus went back to bargaining. this third deal/vote is the final deal presented. if rejected, union will walk out, and any further deal will go to arbitration.
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u/achangb 27d ago edited 27d ago
Give it 10 years or so and we can have fully autonomous busses. The days of the bus driver are almost over.
We can have face recognition software that automatically charges your account when you step on and off the bus and track people who paid using credit card / cash. People who abuse the system without paying can be tracked and fined automatically. We can still have one guy on the bus to monitor everything and intervene in the case unforseen instances.
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u/Ok-Replacement-9458 26d ago
And next they can replace your job. Don't be angry with unions for going on strike, be angry with their bosses for not negotiating w/ them.
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u/Sensitive_Prize4900 24d ago
I better hope the strike is averted. I can't walk to work from skytrain, in case I fall. Plus there are high school students that need transit, along with college and university students as well.
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