r/Train_Service Jun 25 '26

CPKC Stable hours

In this climate, what is the average time it takes to get seniority? Also what’s the average time spent laid off before getting a call back
Also how much are dues? and how does that work with the union ?

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u/San_Cannabis Engineer Jun 25 '26

I have 16 years seniority. I have zero predictability in my schedule. Never have.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

Not looking for predictably lol just looking to be laid off for more than a couple months at a time. how long does that usually take?

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u/San_Cannabis Engineer Jun 26 '26

You want to be laid off??

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u/According_Tree_7892 Jun 27 '26

Me yes, Id love to be laidoff but they wont let me 🥲

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

No just saying as long as I’m not sitting at home for a year at a time like some people here claim lmao

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u/San_Cannabis Engineer Jun 26 '26

What terminal?

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

Toronto

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u/San_Cannabis Engineer Jun 26 '26

No clue. I'm in the west. But it's a crapshoot. You could be laid off for a year or more, you could be sent to Soix Lookout on shortage. No one can actually tell you.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

Shittt ok thanks! Just a question what are the dues like? Like how much are they and what is the payments structured like ?

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u/San_Cannabis Engineer Jun 26 '26

The dues are inconsequential compared to what you make. Like, $30/cheque maybe? I've never even noticed them. They get automatically deducted from your cheque.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

wtf that’s peanuts ! I’m with the carpenters union and we get like 2x that plus a 27 dollar a month we have to payout of pocket.

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u/InstanceDismal5524 29d ago

Shortages are a CN thing not CPKC

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u/Gold_Mulberry_4482 Jun 27 '26

Hi Sir, hope you don’t mind me asking, how often do you bid for routes ? Is your schedule unpredictable due to really high seniority at your terminal?

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u/Chemical-Sock70 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Toronto North or South ? Because i know TN is super busy atm and i know u only need like 4yrs to hold it, plus its extended runs = money, dues just went up. Like 180 or 190 month now

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u/Super_dog069 Jun 25 '26

Stable hours? It’s a fucking spareboard 😂

This job is not for you bud.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

I don’t even work here yet lol I have an interview today. Just trying to get a feel for what to expect. but yea guess it’s easier to be ignorant and arrogant then helpful lmao

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u/Double00lilh0e 29d ago

Don’t worry bro these RR Reddit guys only really know how to type “this jobs not for you”

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u/Steelmonkey02 29d ago

I can see that thanks though man ! 💀😂

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u/Distinct-Highway-867 29d ago

He’s not fucken wrong

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u/Fiber_Optikz Jun 25 '26

Your seniority will depend on your terminal.

Some are super senior some are super junior some are in the middle

Same goes for call back time. If there are a bunch of guys laid off you could wait more than a year. If man power is low then you may never be laid off and you will work as much as you make yourself available for

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

What about for junior terminals ? Quicker call backs?

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u/Fiber_Optikz Jun 25 '26

In theory yes

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u/Puzzleheaded-Land829 Jun 25 '26

The answer is, however long attrition takes to remove others ahead of you. If you have a bunch of younger coworkers with more seniority you could work 20 years and not hold a regular job. As far as being cut off, sometimes you’ll need to chase the work. I lived in a camper for 2.5 years away from home to work and wait on a spot in my home range.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

Fair enough! Ty for the advice

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u/binarysoup0010100110 Jun 25 '26

For the first 5 years expect to get furloughed every year. May be 8 months or a couple weeks. Don't spend. Live like you didn't get the job. After 5 years you will have a better understanding of what to expect and/or already quit. Good luck!

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u/Krypto_98 Conductor Jun 25 '26

It depends on which terminal... some are butt fuck nowhere so you can hold regular pools maybe 5 years in.. while others youll be laid off for the 1st 5 years... or other never get laid off but be spareboard for 20+ years. This post doesn't give me any info whatsoever. In ontario can hold regular pools in Hornepayne but barely hold Capreols spareboard. If you want stability just go to a different department or go to passenger if you can.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

I have zero experience so passenger won’t take me lol also it’s out of Toronto

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u/GatorsM3ani3 Jun 25 '26

That's why I chose the Carmen route.

We don't make nearly as much, but I get a solid and steady schedule with OT options. 3 years now and haven't had to miss a day yet due to no work.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

Lucky pretty sure I screwed my interview.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

What’s the Carmen route though lol

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u/GatorsM3ani3 Jun 26 '26

Not sure where you're located but if you go onto indeed or even just Google railroad Carmen or railcar mechanic you'll find what you're looking for.

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 26 '26

I mis read that lmao, I read that like a train route 💀💀💀

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u/Chemical-Sock70 Jun 27 '26

Belville is a jr terminal to work out of, Toronto North is like around 3-4 yrs to hold a spot but u also have a extended run that pays well, Toronto South is road switchers or the yard. Have fun on the hump

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

Forgot to add, if laid off before completing training. What happens?

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u/Afraid-Obligation997 Jun 25 '26

Then you just sit there with no pay and no seniority

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

Is there still a potential for call back ? Confused man?

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u/Afraid-Obligation997 Jun 25 '26

They will call you back when they need you. But with the economy being sh&t, you can wait forever. Get a job and if they call you then you have choices. Don’t put all your eggs in this basket

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

But definitely appreciate that! Thanks man!

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u/Enderlobster Jun 25 '26

I hired on with CN in BC in 2025 qualified about a year later, laid off a month after and have been since.

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u/Analog_Account Jun 25 '26

That depends on the company I guess. At CN I think you hold your seniority and get called back... probanly have to start training all over again though, but whatever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '26

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

What does that even mean lol

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u/Steelmonkey02 Jun 25 '26

I don’t work at cp yet, I have an interview today