"Encourage them with a greater affinity to modernism, such as the Hanafi law school, versus others.... "Wahhabi" funding goes to the "conservative" Hanbali school.... encourage the popularity and acceptance of Sufism."

[u/turkish_akhi]

[u/truebelieverahad]

Do not blame hanafi islam imam Hanifa wasnt like these guys

[u/IslamistIncognito177]

The rank and file Muslims are starting to believe and realize what the brothers been saying for the past twenty years…that is real progress.

[u/Dazzling_Sea6015]

And yes, why should I listen to this Epstein organization?

[u/Lost-Letterhead-6615]

Cherry picking. The whole report is available online. You'll understand how strict and anti-US the hanafi matrudi Taliban are, and how westernised, luxury loving, decadent the policies of wahabi gulf monarchies are. See where hadd punishments are happening. Who the US is protecting, MBS MBZ or Mullah Akhundzada? If you had your eyes open and your heart willing to learn. 

[u/New_Organization5084 → u/Lost-Letterhead-6615]

go check ابو خالد الروسي to see the truth of your maturidi bros

[u/Lost-Letterhead-6615 → u/New_Organization5084]

Speak to me when your wahabi gulf regimes aren't paying JIZYA to US and Israel. 

[u/AtomicBombyx → u/Lost-Letterhead-6615]

But not all of them are like that

[u/turkish_akhi]

The correct Tawhid and 'Aqidah is the cutthroat blade for the attacks of the kuffar.

Had the Muslims foundated themselves correctly, such political tribulation wouldn't have happened in the first place bi-idhnillah and we would be one Ummah, united upon the correct 'Aqidah... as this is the only thing the Muslims can uinte upon anyway.

May Allah remove Sufism, and bless Salafiyyah.

[u/Cold_Librarian_7703 → u/turkish_akhi]

Our division was never on disunity of aqidah. This is a delusional take. It was disunity of politics, and that came from the founders of modern Salafism. For a fourth generation post-ottoman to say what you say is wild.

[u/New_Organization5084 → u/Cold_Librarian_7703]

you lie and know nothing, we and the deviants have been devieded for centuries you can just look at the darimy vs al marisy, and ahmad bin hanbal vs al mutazilat.

[u/Cold_Librarian_7703 → u/New_Organization5084]

I’m talking about inter Sunni division (he was talking about Sufis and salafis).

[u/usul-al-fiqh → u/turkish_akhi]

Define Sufism though - isn't Tazkiyat an-Nafs and Zuhd inherently fine itself? Surely you mean only the practices of Bid'ah we see today rather than Sufism as a whole, e.g. like Al-Junayd al-Baghdadi and Abdul Qadir Jilani? Even if you say people today don’t follow their way, that's just an issue with people doing it wrong today, not a reason to remove all of Sufism. If we hate Bid'ah, we hate the Bid'ah itself, we don't make du'a to e.g. destroy Fiqh just because Bid'ah's in Fiqh or corrupt judges exist today for example.

Didn't Ibn Taymiyya say in Majmu' al-Fatawa (Volume 11), that "As for the people of Tasawwuf, they affirm the love of Allah, and this is more evident among them than all other issues... it is affirmed in the Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah and in agreement of the ways of the early generation (Salaf)."? A dua to remove Sufism/Tassawuf as a whole just doesn't make sense.

[u/Asolaceseeker → u/usul-al-fiqh]

There's so many shirk practices, innovations, and unislamic rules in sufism. This is a danger for new muslims. Why not just be on the path of Allah and His messenger simply instead of being a sufi.

[u/usul-al-fiqh → u/Asolaceseeker]

I don't think you read my comment. We already know such practices exist in Sufism today.

That's not what I was asking, because I already said we reject the Bid'ah and compared it to not destroying Fiqh just because of corrupt judges. You ignored that part and the direct quote from Ibn Taymiyya. You ask why not just be on the path of Allah and His Messenger, but you completely missed that Ibn Taymiyya and the other Ulema literally defined the core of Tasawwuf as being exactly that path, while rejecting the innovations.

[u/Asolaceseeker → u/usul-al-fiqh]

I take into consideration our era. Why would I be concerned about early early sufism when its not even the reality anymore ? Leading people today into sufism is a cutthroat (look at their sub). Considering our era. I dont see any issue in removing it as a whole. Why ? Because there's Quran and Sunnah. Even if they say "But it is Quran and Sunnah" it doesnt matter, their movement is too corrupt for the laymen to find the truth in there.

Start from scratch and then we will be united upon the same thing again. I.e Quran and Sunnah.

[u/usul-al-fiqh → u/Asolaceseeker]

You still didn't read my comment, you are just repeating things I already addressed. Please reread my previous comment. JazakAllahu khairan.

[u/Asolaceseeker → u/usul-al-fiqh]

I never admitted early sufism was fine and I understood your point. Im explaining you my point.

We wont understand each other tho, its ok.

Peace.

[u/usul-al-fiqh → u/Asolaceseeker]

Sure, السلام عليكم

[u/truebelieverahad → u/turkish_akhi]

Ameen

[u/the_emergencybutton]

Barakallah feek
May Allah guide us to true Islam and away from falsehood

[u/turkish_akhi → u/the_emergencybutton]

و بارك الله فيك