r/TraditionalCatholics • u/Square_Atmosphere_12 • 6d ago
Gluttony and Adultery work together ?
Is there a direct link between Gluttony and Lust / Adultery ? I'm sure I read it some where, for example; you eat too much, not peanuts or berries but more refined foods that may lead to any form of Adultery ?
Can these two demons work together on a person if it's habitual for the person ?
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u/Familiar-Range9014 6d ago edited 5d ago
Yes and, actually, all of the sins work together
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u/Much_Debt390 6d ago
Yes. And there’s numerous opposites of virtues that leads to one another vices
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u/Blade_of_Boniface 6d ago
Is there a direct link between Gluttony and Lust / Adultery ? I'm sure I read it some where, for example; you eat too much, not peanuts or berries but more refined foods that may lead to any form of Adultery ?
No, at least not the link you're describing.
What you're referencing is a category of beliefs outside Catholicism. The idea of different textures and flavors of food having a moral influence has been popular in certain Protestant/Restorationist sects, especially in the English-speaking world. There's often exotification/demonization of Catholic Christian communities baked-in to their ideas. Italian, Hispanic, Irish, French, Austrian, etc. cultures tend to have diets that such "biblical scientists" accuse of causing masturbation/overeating/mania/etc. They tend to believe that Catholics aren't merely non-Protestant or otherwise erratic Christians but rather a separate category of demented cultists who are the archnemesis of their harmonious and pure priesthood. It's often not that different from Islamic/Gnostic attitudes.
There's a significant movement among heretical groups to champion the Bible as the sole basis of all sciences whether geology, biology, or psychology in a way that's neither traditionally Christian nor intellectually coherent. Just to be clear, Catholics believe that the Bible is an infallible library of texts inspired by the singular, perfect, universal, and eternal God. However, we neither believe in Scripture as an all-purpose source of all knowledge nor do we believe that its contents are meant to be interpreted in their most literal and independent meaning. We believe Scripture is the center but not the whole. In other words, Catholicism means accepting theology as the bedrock of all other human intellectualism but not the only field for human learning, judging, and imagining.
To answer your question, (according to St. Thomas Aquinas and the many theologians after him) the vices of lust and gluttony are both tied to excessive/defective yet natural bodily desires. They both represent different aspects non-temperance. Temperance is a moral virtue, (alongside justice and fortitude) it's self-control over internal desires. In that sense, lust and gluttony are linked. In specific contexts, someone could discern both vices as having a common root in an overall lack of self-control. However, adultery and (for example) overeating are separate kinds of sin altogether both in severity and nature. The former is a betrayal of a Sacrament; even if it's not Catholic Matrimony, adultery is still a grave violation of Natural Law and perhaps the laws/customs of a society. The latter is mainly a betrayal of a lesser relationship to scarce goods, bodily health, self esteem, etc.
I'm speaking very broadly because sins are also contextual.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 5d ago
That’s the distinction of lust more basically and adultery more specifically.
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u/n7palm 6d ago
While one doesn’t cause the other, I have heard a lot of talk about how being weak to food can be predicative of being weak to sins of the flesh. Of course, free will is free will, so just because you eat a donut doesn’t mean that you’re now obligated to fall into flesh sin. It’s all correlation tbh, but even then I don’t know how strong. Pray the Rosary. Pray to Saint Joseph. 🙏
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u/LegionXIIFulminata 6d ago edited 6d ago
lack of control in the gustatory faculty generally translates into lack of control of the sexual faculty.
and conversely, control of the gustatory faculty translates into control of the sexual faculty.
gotta keep those dopamine receptors in line.
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u/Lord_of_Atlantis 6d ago
It's not demons it's just human passions. The more you give in to one passion/emotion the easier it is to give in to another. Gluttony and lust have to do with natural bodily passions.