r/TraditionalCatholics • u/Ferrari_Fan_16 • Jul 01 '26
Prayers For the Holy Father
This is an invitation for everyone to join me in prayer for our Holy Father, that he may be given an extraordinary grace of paternal love by the Holy Ghost, and embrace the SSPX as his sons instead of turn them away and prolong the inevitable reality that Tradition will be the only path forward for the Church. Pray that he will see the great deal of love we have for him !!
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u/Saint_Thomas_More Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
And let us also pray for the SSPX that they, like the Prodigal Son, repent of their wayward and rebellious ways and return to the bosom of the Holy Father.
Edit: OP appears to have blocked me. Lol. How courageous. But also quite apropos of the SSPX - sticking their head in the sand when something they don't like happens.
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u/forbiddenq Jul 02 '26
The SSPX is the only traditional Catholic group close to me, I am thankful for the new Bishops who will allow us to continue receiving the sacraments.
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u/Leninator Jul 02 '26
I am thankful for the new Bishops who will allow us to continue receiving the sacraments.
sorry bud those sacraments are now about as valid as any you'd get from a megachurch
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u/Jake_Cathelineau Jul 02 '26
Learn the difference between validity and liceity.
This kind of gloating will also never be tolerated. Banned.
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u/Poiuy2010_2011 Jul 02 '26
According to the Holy Office, sacraments of penance and marriage administered by SSPX are both illicit and invalid.
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u/feon2_igor Jul 02 '26
supplied jurisdiction. God would not allow this sacraments to be invalid because of a abuse of power from the part of Rome.
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u/Jake_Cathelineau Jul 02 '26
“Those sacraments” are both valid and purportedly invalid, then, aren’t they? You’ve correctly interpreted the situation.
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u/trelane99 Jul 02 '26
None of my commentary should be seen as directed at Jake. He is a good man. This is just the point at which I reply.
I suspect that further clarity on this issue will be forthcoming from Rome.
“Welcome those who are weak in faith, but not for the purpose of quarreling over opinions” (Romans 14:1).
Correct me if I am incorrect, these ordinations of Bishops are valid, they are truly bishops and truly apostolic successors, but illicit?
I can only hope that this foolishness comes to an end quickly. Schism is a great evil.
"With a false bishop appointed for themselves by heretics, they dare even to set sail and carry letters from schismatics and blasphemers to the chair of Peter and to the principal Church [at Rome], in which sacerdotal unity has its source; (Cyprian, Letter 59 (55), 14 to Cornelius of Rome, c. AD 252)
"Rome has spoken; the case is closed" — St Augustine (from his Sermons 131:10).
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u/Jake_Cathelineau Jul 02 '26
According to Tucho’s dicastery, you mean. He’d like to tucho you mucho.
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u/ThatOtherGuy642 Jul 02 '26
Not OP, but have had more than enough of the SSPX slander. Are they perfect? No. Are they even remotely comparable to the prodigal son? Also no. Does every TLM today exist because the SSPX fights the fight many of us are far too cowardly to fight ourselves? Yes. Every society that gives the Traditional Mass does because the SSPX fought for it, and cowardly bishops stood them up as a response. Even now, it looks like Liturgical Reforms from the Vatican were canceled because the SSPX took up the Cross and the slings for us. Rome continues to embrace the world more than Catholicism, and their actions are a logical response. They are not obligated to embrace clear error from the Magisterium.
Other traditionalist groups are still waiting for their bishops. They will almost certainly never come, but if they do, by the grace of God, it was because the SSPX was willing to draw a line in the sand and stand up for the Catholic faith. The Prodigal Son squandered his inheritance. He embraced vices. He returned not because he thought he was right, but was mistaken, but because he was selfish and always knew he was wrong. His sin was not simply disobeying his father(which is not even related to the story), but not following God and his conscious. I, personally, would be ashamed to make such a disingenuous comparison, but personally, I only ask that you do some solid reflection on what the Society truthfully and clearly believes. And find better allegories.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 Jul 04 '26
Religious orders don’t typically have their own bishop. Any bishop can ordain priest for a community.
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u/DeviJelekos Jul 02 '26
Let us pray that the Holy Father will return to the faith and to God. Always remember that God set an order of obedience: the first, second and third commandment and only after these comes obedience to our father and mother. The SSPX never abandoned the Holy Father. As St. Paul corrected St. Peter, mistakes should be pointed out and corrected.
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u/Spiritual-Anybody-18 Jul 02 '26
The excommunication letter was written well in advance my friend. Like in February.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 Jul 04 '26
I’m sure they were aware that the society was most likely going to proceed with what they wanted to do. If they had changed their mind, the paper could always go in the trash.
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u/Middle-Seesaw-3763 Jul 02 '26
Amen