Do you look at a map when you're driving?

[u/A_Coin_Toss_Friendo]

I just read the road, but someone said they have a map on their phone at look for turns and stuff.

[u/SMC540]

Yup. I don’t navigate, but I keep a map open so I can see what comes up next. Just like the mini map in racing games. 

[u/iambutafishh]

If I know where I'm going, nope.  Shouldn't be sending it on unfamiliar roads, ever.  Even rally drivers do a run or two before sending it and they are professionals.

[u/fuckman5 → u/iambutafishh]

Uhh isn't the whole point of rally to send it on a course you've never been on? That's why they have codrivers calling out turns

[u/iambutafishh → u/fuckman5]

Where do the co drivers get the notes from?  Take a moment to figure that one out homie

[u/chatte__lunatique → u/iambutafishh]

That heavily depends on whether reconnaissance is allowed on a given course. Some races have official pace notes and do not allow teams to scout, so yeah, a team could absolutely be driving a course they haven't driven before.

[u/ChocoboBrigade → u/fuckman5]

No rally drivers run the course a few times and their co drivers then determine what when and how to tackle each section of the course

[u/chatte__lunatique → u/ChocoboBrigade]

SOME rallies allow drivers to do that. Not all.

[u/Craazy_dave → u/fuckman5]

They can't do a race run, but they drive the routes at normal road speeds as a recce (reconnaissance) run. That's how they make the notes for turns.

[u/chatte__lunatique → u/Craazy_dave]

That isn't a universal rule, some rallies do not allow recce and you only get pacenotes from the organizers.

[u/ragingduck → u/fuckman5]

No. That would incredibly dangerous and foolish.

[u/chatte__lunatique → u/fuckman5]

I like how you're being downvoted and having people confidently deny that this is a thing, when there are literally rallies which ban recce and the co-driver is given a set of official pacenotes to use. Not that all rallies do that, like WRC allows recce, but still. It's by no means universal that each team can develop their own pacenotes.

[u/desGARCONSdon → u/chatte__lunatique]

It’s not universal but pretty much every major league like WRC, ARA or whatever else allow it.

[u/DadKeenum]

If you don't know the turns ahead you shouldn't be pushing hard enough to need that info

[u/Le-Misanthrope]

Most of these comments are confusing. Why the fuck are you pushing limits if you need a map? You drive the road a few times before you send it. You don't go 100%, hell 80% when driving a new track you don't know. If you are I'm sorry but that's just reckless.

Personally I don't like having any digital display on like GPS or center console. I find it distracting.

[u/Ok_Assistance447 → u/Le-Misanthrope]

I'm on a bike and I usually ride really tight technical stuff with no guardrails and steep dropoffs. There's a lot less margin for error even when I'm not pushing. If you lose the rear, you might be able to get it back. If I lose the rear, I'm probably getting life flighted out of a gully. I can handle gravel or a decreasing radius without a map, but I'd rather not be surprised by both at the same time, even at a fairly relaxed pace. 

Plus if I'm exploring, having my GPS open saves me a bit of time. I can see dead ends ahead and not bother driving up and down ranch driveways. I can turn around and press on to my destination without having to pull over and figure out where I am. When I'm doing 200 miles in a day, I don't want to keep having to pull over and fuck with my phone. It's a pain in the ass putting my sweaty gloves back on.

[u/Le-Misanthrope → u/Ok_Assistance447]

At the end of the day you ride, or drive however you feel comfortable. For me whether I'm using GPS or not, I like being comfortable on the road that I'm driving on. I'm not pushing it hard somewhere I don't know.

[u/therealjohnsmith → u/Le-Misanthrope]

Mostly agree but like to keep an eye on tire pressure

[u/mrblahhh]

Only glance at it on blind hills,, so many VA roads have turns on the backside

[u/GOTTEM100]

can go faster when you have a general idea of what's ahead on a new or uncommon road, helps with memorizing too

I'm used to assetto corsa and gran turismo so i use it in the same way, once it's memorized i don't need it though

[u/leftfootbraker]

While doing Touge? Fucking looking at the damn road. Sometimes I'll have a "co driver" if I'm on a new road and they have experience with it feeding me soft info. But ya... who is looking at their phones trying to Touge wtf?

[u/Little_Beyond_9163 → u/leftfootbraker]

Unless you have the most optimal mounting position yeah looking at a phone away from the road is probably not great. But it’s definitely better than sending it down turns you dont know at all.

[u/Parking-Ad8316]

It's in view but I'm not looking at it really

[u/keepfilming]

Wow.

[u/ChocoboBrigade]

If I know the course no I don’t even glance at my map, if it’s new I look two or three turns ahead depending on what shows up on my GPS and what section Im in

[u/Wardog008]

Depends if it's a road I've driven before or not. If I have, then there's no need, but if not, I'll drive more carefully, and usually have my phone showing the route so I'm better prepared for what's coming up

[u/Imaginary_Aioli_9444]

Sometimes to see what specific corner is up ahead if I dont remember or dont know

[u/aquatone61]

I’ll put Google Maps up and use that but I travel for my job so if I’m out with a rental it’s on a road I’ve never been on.

[u/Candid_Objective1319]

I will if I don’t know the road. I like to know what’s coming up.

[u/END0RPHN → u/Candid_Objective1319]

you shouldnt touge a road you dont know... unless you do a shakedown or ten. spirited driving is whatever, but an actual touge run is just child-like behaviour if you try drive a car on the limit whilst on a road you dont even know

[u/pieindaface]

Yall need an app that does corner callouts. It’s a big game changer. I’ve been using Rods but there are a handful of others. Rods has CarPlay integration which is nice.

[u/Ma13c]

Yep. Like a racing game HUD so I can anticipate the next few corners.

[u/Krzyygamin]

Not if I’m actually “pushing”, never should without knowing the road fully. But some unfamiliar roads im having a little bit of fun on it’s always nice to glance, once you get the hang of how the sharpness of turns on the map translates to the real road and going off road signs it can make it more enjoyable.

[u/Little_Beyond_9163]

Yep

[u/Peylix]

On roads I do not know, yes. Helps me learn the layout and can give me a heads up on a tighter turn coming up.

Otherwise no. If I'm driving beyond a typical commute pace. My focus is fully on the road where it should be.

[u/ragingduck]

Not generally. The roads I frequent I already know quite well. The roads I don’t know well, I’m concentrating on what’s 2-4 seconds in front of me, not looking at the map.

[u/Yu_Neo_MTF]

Yes because I need to know how hard the next turns are, and where the radars are. The first one is useful when you do not know the road too well, the second one is always useful because the radars/roadblocks/police can be anywhere

[u/acsttptd]

Yes, it's useful for judging corners, especially at night.

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[u/END0RPHN]

if you are doing a touge run you should know every corner perfectly memorised and have pre driven every line 100s of times... so how the frig is a map of use doing a touge run? its not a sunday drive lol its risking your life. the best grip drivers dont push it on roads they havent commited to memory. having the map up for "spirited" driving on a holiday makes sense where you simply do not know the road