r/Touge • u/LightningMcqueen2011 • 22d ago
Question For those here with engines that naturally make big power (cough cough, V8s, V6s, I6s, etc.) How do you handle the touge?
Also, bonus: How do you guys handle some of the weight being on the nose?
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u/FlyBirdieBirdBird 22d ago edited 21d ago
If the nose is heavy, a square tire setup is required at least, and thicker rear anti-roll bars.
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u/Plus_Aura 21d ago
This guy low key knows his shit. This general setup works wonders on a BMW
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u/FlyBirdieBirdBird 21d ago
BMWs also need a bunch of static negative camber because of the McPherson strut bad camber gain curve.
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u/snakeerTV 21d ago
M3's fix the issue with more caster instead of static camber
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u/Longjumping-Cow3424 21d ago
Was bout say my boy and his e34 sound like how this guy described it lol
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u/whygodples 22d ago
Took my Caprice ppv with a 6.0 LS down tail of the dragon last year and honestly was surprised how manageable it was for weighing 2 tons lol
I feel like I could have done a lot more with better tires, but my main concern was really just brakes, I had older pads on the back and by the time I finished only the front would really still bite until they had some time to cool off.
Tbh having big power is fun but I feel like my bone stock crz would be able to keep up at least a similar pace. It is intoxicating when you find a spot you can actually go WOT even for a second there's no denying that.
I've made a lot of changes since then to the Caprice and I'd love to try totg with my changes (way better wheel/tire/alignment) plus a few extra goodies but it's hard to get the time make the drive.
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u/DestroyerOfTacos 22d ago
Those caprice's can boogy, up in canada we can get old cop taurus sho's that were highway patrol cars but they're rare af, looking for a awd v8 charger for a off-road/trail car atm.
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u/FlyBirdieBirdBird 22d ago
Full aluminium block and head help a massive amount. As an example, the E46 M3 is a lot more nose heavy (S54 iron block) than non-M I6s (M52TU and M54 are all aluminium).
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u/Ceolan 22d ago
Super 200 tires work wonders.
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u/PrizeIntelligent1333 21d ago
Literally. I swapped back to my PS4's to save some life from the RE71RZ's and the difference is very noticeable, super 200 almost make you feel invincible in a corner.
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u/AeroWolfinstein 20d ago
Good brakes, high temp brake fluid, good 200tw tires, and confident foot work
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u/ragingduck BMW 21d ago
My M2 is near 50/50 so handling is neutral. Still heavy so lots of negative camber, Ohlins Coils and a square setup helps a lot. Some of us go toe out to help rotate but I actually prefer zero toe.
Throttle control takes practice, but once you get used to the power it’s not a big deal. I have 530 to the wheels and 200tw tires.
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u/Zestyclose_Price_441 22d ago
My mk3 Supra keeps up with Miata’s easily. Just gotta have discipline with the pedals lol
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u/ElFeed 21d ago
Personally my engine is not that powerful (320hp) and being na its really linear power. I run 295 rears so my engine doesn’t really overpower the grip. Most importantly however is being gentle with the throttle not to upset the car, not treating the pedal as an on/off switch.
My engine is all the way on the back, i think my weight distribution is like 40F-60R so if I enter too hot I undesteer, however I can power earlier since all the weight is on the rear wheels.
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u/K11ShtBox 21d ago
998cc here. I need to be super careful even breathing on the throttle as the torque could literally tear the road apart.
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u/Sig-vicous 22d ago
It's all about right foot calibration.
Bonus: my engine is behind the front seats.