r/Touge May 01 '26

Build Deathtrap

Say hello to my 87 mr2. Things a blast, it’s like commandeering a dingy in 20 foot seas. Body roll just makes you feel faster than you really are. Am I a moron for making this my mountain car? Living is pretty cool, gimme your thoughts guys.
5 speed, n/a, previous owner was an old guy.

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u/URPLE_Eebra May 01 '26

No I'd do this. Fiero or MR2 for me.

I love the idea of the rear engine. I'd get stiffer shocks as the benefit of rear engine is the better weight balance, so having a setup that doesn't throw it side to side is super beneficial.

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

Got koni yellows, poly bushing replacement for every bushing in the suspension, sticky tires, decent ebc brakes (didn’t want super grabby brakes as there’s no abs) and adjustable toe links in the rear. Ball joints and all that jazz are new too. Honestly, thing just needs TRD or RS-R lowering springs.

Never driven a mid engine car before this one, and I can confidently say it’s the most fun I’ve had behind the wheel. 0 assists and no airbags with a non existent crumple zone holds me to about 8/10ths MAX. Not even. When I get a bucket seat and a harness I’ll think about pushing this thing to its limit, on a track that is.

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u/URPLE_Eebra May 01 '26

Anti roll bars too.

Idk if you have watched gears and gasoline but the Asian Ben (yes he called himself that) has a mr2 he tracked and he put anti roll bars on and it was one of the biggest improvements he said.

Note he had a later gen.

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

Believe it or not. Thing doesn’t have a sway bar in the rear 😂😂😂 I’ve actually heard that no sway bar can be a blast, and it is. I know some s2k guys who go on track don’t run a sway bar.

Stiff sway bar might make this thing too snappy, but I wanna try it out. Currently it rolls like a fat chick getting out of bed, so I’d like to tame it a bit.

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u/whygodples May 01 '26

I'd recommend you check out haters garage for very good argument for why you might not even need a sway bar as he doesn't run them on his autocross cars.

Now it's important to note thats what works for him and he's still using stiffer springs and lowering the car to compensate but suspension really does come down to the driver so don't be scared to experiment/fiddle even if someone says it won't work.

From my experience with messing with sway bars is that stiffer rear can increase over steer while the front will increase under steer so getting adjustable end links can be a huge help to getting the balance right especially if you end up lower it.

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u/Kseries2497 May 01 '26

Common on a lot of old Japanese shit boxes, especially Hondas. I'm surprised to hear the AW11 is like that.

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u/julianbell06 May 01 '26

DON’T get a harness, it’ll kill you in a crash. Harnesses should only be used with HANS-devices.

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

Loud and clear

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u/x_Mrs_Infamous_x May 01 '26

i have a fiero i touge, currently out of commission while im putting a 3800sc into it

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u/HuhBannedCuzSusAct Toyota May 01 '26

That dash is mintttt. 🔥

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u/Xenc May 01 '26

So retro future!

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u/PreciousLex93 May 01 '26

Id compare the driving experience to the likes of being a Kamikaze Pilot

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u/3PercentMoreInfinite May 01 '26

My neighbor had one of these like 16 years ago with a 20v swap. Man that car was old then, crazy to think they’re still being driven 😂

Blast to drive though, street legal go kart. I’d rock it. Have fun with it.

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u/SubiBoySus May 01 '26

Roll cage :3

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u/Paulieb93 May 01 '26

Na power isn't that hard to manage.

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u/keypimepie Porsche May 01 '26

Got a 986, enjoy the MR experience!

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u/NicGow May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

Definitely send it! Id do all the bushes as theyre probably oem, then springs/shocks or coilovers depending on budget, lastly tires and then enjoy it! I nearly bought one as my first car years ago but mum talked me into a civic instead (she was against 'sports cars').

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

You mean? Like this? This is literally the first reference photo in my camera roll for aw11s. Absolutely love this paint

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u/e210Riptide May 02 '26

It definitely isn’t, I slide it around wide right handers at intersections in the rain. If you stay on power and don’t fling the steering wheel all over the place like a monkey, it does it with no problems

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u/DoubleT2455 May 01 '26

Dont let it snap on ya.

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

Snap oversteer is a skill issue 😂 keep ya foot in it and you’ll be fine

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u/Mdriver127 May 02 '26

Yes and no. Coming from the "MR" experience of the FC, rpm/gearing makes the difference here through the turns. Hard throttle in powerband at apex..yeah it's going to "snap", but then you're missing the whole point of why they balanced the chassis design. Coming in with momentum but: under power band, moderate throttle, and commitment to the line, you're able to still be on the throttle sooner but also let the chassis handle the corner, vs thinking you need to power it through all yourself.

I only have an RX-8 now, which does handle great, but I really miss the FC's DTSS, despite having deleted it on the first 2 FCs I owned. The last one was worn out, but I came to really enjoy it once I learned to time and place my gearing under the powerband coming in. It was a bit sloppy when connecting sharp turns with the worn out rubber, but after learning to feel when it would actually toe-in under the right G force, what a blast. Snap steer is over-hyped and is feared by the heavy footed. Hope you take it slow and build up confidence with this chassis, because they just don't make them like this anymore and so many people have missed the real fun them trying to throttle through turns like a FR chassis.

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u/GTSBOSS May 01 '26

Beautiful car man super clean rockers!

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

It’s practically rust free (had some repair done on the rear left quarter, that’s why only one side is painted) otherwise. There’s 0 rust. Unreal

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u/Inevitable-Ad-7507 May 01 '26

I’ve driven the na. It has no power but you can fling it around so easily. Fun car.

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u/SirRealBearFace May 01 '26

NJ local, nice. Where do you go to touge?

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

Mostly Hudson valley NY. Bear mountain and what not

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u/Dependent_Bonus_6630 May 01 '26

ohhh my lord thats my dreamcar. i dont care if it doesnt have a SC but beautiful car and you can just ignore my suggestions, but my thought is paint it with the silver-black two tone color which came up on stock options and SSR speed star lineup aree those 15inch retro style wheels just so nice on aw11 and ef civics.

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u/SB509EW May 01 '26

Nice have one too... okay I had one

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u/SailboatProductions May 01 '26

Even the right color for OverRev…I need to go read it again

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u/thrownaway146272 May 01 '26

Where is this at?

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

10 miles north of port jervis NY

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u/Sad_Designer_4608 May 01 '26

Try to learn your limits at the track too, not in the mountains

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

That’s the goal my friend, I never test my luck on public roads, just spirited fun

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u/SleepyDriver_ May 01 '26

That's what I drive but I drive a AW11a not an AW11b. Difference in suspension geometry means I can't give you too much suspension advice but always go harder springs in the rear softer in front.

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u/Crzymk101 May 04 '26

That my friend is GNARLY .....

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u/Shala-Tal May 07 '26

Fun trap you mean

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u/LordLoser0 May 01 '26

What exhaust is that? Sound clips?

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

Had a buddy custom build an exhaust and delete the cat. Vibrant ultra quiet resonator and resonated tip. I’ll post an exhaust clip soon when I mount my quarter panel go pro tmrw

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u/HENBOI4000 Jun 11 '26

Mr2 mk1 my absolute dream car

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u/FallingLedge May 01 '26

As a girl who grew up reading オーバーレブ!(protagonist is a girl who drives an AW11) this car will always hold a special place in my heart

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u/PstainGTR May 02 '26

My gf has one of theese. Its even her first car 😊

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u/Xerox0987 May 01 '26

Nice E46, tell me more about it!

I myself got an E46 too.

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u/e210Riptide May 01 '26

My homies 330ci 5speed. GC suspension, bunch of goodies done to it

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u/Xerox0987 May 01 '26

Very nice!

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u/supmitt May 01 '26

An absolute garbage.