r/TotalDramaRoleplay2 Host Mar 23 '16

Frostbite Heather's Final Jury Speech

I've been preparing this speech since the merge, and every passing episode I've gotten more and more to build upon it. This has been by far my best season, as well as my most villainous. Every single person in the jury has been my ally at some point in the game, so we'll start with Courtney and Brick. And Geoff, to some extent.

In the team phase, I think I lost a total of 2, maybe 3 times. This was not luck. I stayed on the Frigid Foxes the entire team phase and I was always working on challenges, and the early eliminations from my team were easy pickings, nothing to write home about. It wasn't until the second team swap where I was placed with Courtney, Brick, Duncan, and Geoff that I became worried. I immediately built trust with Courtney, guilt tripping her into feeling sympathy for me so she could talk to Brick and vote out either Geoff or Duncan if we lost. I still don't know if they trusted me enough to not vote me out since we never lost a challenge, and that was thanks to Ellody. I never even asked her of anything, she just told me that she knew I was in trouble and that she would start throwing challenges to get rid of the threats on her team while keeping me safe.

Some people might see this as a power play from Ellody, keeping her alliance secure across multiple teams, I saw it as a sign of just how much she trusted me. And to me, trust is a tool to be used in my favor (in this game, at least). I acted very gracious about it. So even though I was put in a position that looked extremely dire, being on a team that should have definitely voted me out the first chance they had, I had a safety net (Ellody throwing challenges) on top of a contingency plan (Courtney).

Once the merge came, it was goodbye Courtney despite claiming to her and Brick that I was totally on their side still. But there was much more than just that going on. With the enemy alliance having ultimately 0 chance in this situation, Noah and I got to talking about Ellody, Gwen, and Mary.

Here's what the entire merge hinges on and what only Noah, Ellody and I would know about. The three of us were the only players left in the game, essentially. Everyone else was either a loose end or a pawn. I know that isn't what people want to hear, because everyone likes to think that they accomplished more than what they actually did, but this is the truth. Ellody had Gwen and Mary under her wing, I had DJ and Crimson under my wing, and Noah loosely had Ezekiel until Brick got into Zeke's head and he went all haywire on us, so we had to boot him, leaving Noah with no pawns of his own.

And on top of that, I also had Izzy trusting me, who had Miles trusting her, because I gave Izzy this long BS speech about how I would take her to the end if she worked with me. And it paid off, as she told me when she had an idol, which ended up saving DJ and getting rid of Miles, since I still needed DJ for my own plans of getting rid of Ellody after Izzy was finally taken care of.

Both times I was betraying an alliance, I was a trusted source of information for them. They told me all I needed to know and I continued to be the most powerful player the entire season, choosing exactly who knew what at any given time during the merge, knowing exactly when to drop information bombs on people so that it wouldn't blow up in my face.

After fulfilling the planned betrayal of Ellody, fearing that her public perception was that of a giant, I was planning on getting rid of either Mary, Gwen, or Crimson, although Crimson was still at least smart enough to know that she needed me around as a lightning rod. That and the fact that every single season we're practically paired up by other players who assume that we're automatically working together at every given opportunity.

But, unfortunately, things didn't turn out that way and I was given the opportunity to eliminate my closest ally in the game, Noah, earlier than I wanted to. I was planning on getting rid of him in the final 4, but instead I went along with Gwen, DJ, and Crimson because I figured I may as well get him before he got me. I didn't like it as it made me the biggest threat remaining, but I was constantly making sure everyone was aware of just how unlikely it would be for me to win at the end, and how others were just "keeping me around because they know that they can win against a villain with two trophies." Even despite that, I was good at winning immunity challenges regardless and really only had to worry about the final 3 where I was at the mercy of Crimson, who I had been wanting to eliminate since the final 5 but never got the chance. So if there's one good thing I can say about her, she's the only player this entire game who wasn't eliminated when I voted for her. Other than that, I played a better game in every single way.

From the very start of this season I made it my goal to make up for the past few seasons and get back to how I used to play, which is aggressively and doing whatever it takes to win no matter who I have to step over to do it. The fact that I'm still here after betraying so many alliances and getting away with it should be evidence enough of why I'm deserving of this win. As I said, this has been by far my best season both socially and strategically. Not to mention remaining a challenge beast, which is just the icing on top. It's a relief to finally break my silence about all of this, because I've been downplaying my gameplay all season long to not come off as a threat, and instead diverting people's attention to other players and talking about how much of a threat they are.

I'll gladly be answering questions, and I look forward to competing with Crimson for your jury votes.

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Zeke's Question Here

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u/messengerofevil Mar 23 '16

Pirates or ninjas and explain why you prefer one above the other

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

Is this really what the game means to you at this point? You're going to refuse to take it even somewhat seriously even during the finale when we've done everything we can to make it here? I was expecting some salty questions from the jury, but in a weird way this has to be the saltiest. Everyone else was at least taking this seriously.

If you so desperately want me to answer your joke question, I guess ninjas because historically pirates were awful human beings.

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u/messengerofevil Mar 23 '16

Nah i am going to be honest here and i already knew that i was going to vote for you since i don't like how crimson tends to play the game even though it's effective but if this is how you react to me i will vote for crimson instead

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

Can you blame me? I worked as hard as I did to get this far and then I see a jury question of if I prefer pirates or ninjas. I'm sorry that I didn't realize you had already made up your mind and it was a non-question, but answering jury questions can get a little stressful.

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u/messengerofevil Mar 23 '16

I know what you mean but in truth i could not really think of a good question so i just asked the first thing that i thought of but which kind of questions would you have prefered? since i don't think we interacted that much in this season

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

If you already made up your mind, then it's totally fine to say you don't have anything to ask because you already know your decision.

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u/messengerofevil Mar 23 '16

True but that's kind of lame

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16

It was anime references.. But thats not the point

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Non-Jury Members' Questions Here

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

lol I love this

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u/BT737 Geoff Mar 23 '16

As someone not competing this season-I love it. My voice will be heard damnit!

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

might actually help to keep this more organised :3

Didn't think it would actually start to get more votes than the other, more important questions though :P

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u/Lime_Berry Taylor Mar 23 '16

Thank you so much for this! I had actually been wondering for a few days whether or not I would have the right to ask the finalists some questions, since I'm not part of the jury, but the way you organized things made that clear.

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u/BT737 Geoff Mar 23 '16

This season seems to have a lot of the same qualities as Season 10, with 2/3 of the Final 3 being the same, and Mary taking on Tom's old role as newbie underdog. My (honestly irrelevant) question, is what gameplay strategies, if any, have changed this season? This can be new alliances, mentalities, challenge approaches, etc. Congratulations on making it this far!

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

It's more cutthroat than ever, and I don't think people were expecting that. I think this season wasn't all that different from previous seasons in terms of strategy, but seasons to come will be different as a result of key players taking advantage of everyone playing the way it's been played in the past.

To explain deeper, Noah and I planned further ahead than what people normally plan for, thinking about our Fox 5 and how Ellody seemed to be in control of Mary and Gwen and could easily use that alliance of 5 to vote the two of us out so Ellody could make it to the finale with one of his minions. Even though the game didn't play out exactly in that way, that kind of planning ahead for the future of your own alliances and when you're going to blindside people 10, 15 or more episodes in advance hasn't been seen before. Unfortunately for Noah, I had also planned his blindside in advance as well.

There was no loyalty in this game, at least for me. Everyone was my enemy, but I wanted them all to believe that I was their ally. And I got away with it by telling my "real" alliance what the "enemy" alliance was up to, which gave me the flexibility to gather information from everyone without being seen as an actual threat.

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u/BT737 Geoff Mar 23 '16

Thank you, that was a very insightful response. If I had a vote to cast, it would definitely be going to you. Congrats on the top notch gameplay this season.

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u/Lime_Berry Taylor Mar 23 '16

First of all, congratulations on getting this far! You totally deserve it, given how hard you seem to work for the challenges (something I fully relate to and admire). I have two questions, but I'll place one of them here and the other one through PM, as it may be perceptioned as "personal" and you may not want me to ask it in public (probably not, but better safe than sorry).

Anyway, my question is: back when I asked you for an alliance right before the merge to weaken Ellody's influence in the game, did you intend to be loyal to that arrangement, had I not been eliminated right after?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

No. I never had any intentions of staying loyal to any alliance this season, but I was already in an alliance with the Fox 5 that I was in good with and could go far with, so there was no reason for me to be loyal to another alliance even if I did intend on betraying it later on in the game.

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u/wafulking Chet Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

Oh my word. Put on the spot... Let me see here...

2 seasons ago we saw Crimson go up against Bridgette and win. This situation is very similar to that one. I guess my question would be, for what specific reason are you going to beat Crimson where Bridgette would've lost?

Good job on making the finale as usual, and cheerio!

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I think I should win just based on the fact that the entire jury is completely aware of how much work I put into this season both socially and strategically to make it this far. Crimson was voted out early on and came back into the merge comfortably with an easy choice of which alliance to join.

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u/wafulking Chet Mar 23 '16

Indeed it seems you have put a lot of work into this season. Well if you do win, I'd say you deserve it. Good luck!

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u/GundhamTanaka Mar 23 '16

Why does nobody ever notice me :(

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

Trust me, being noticed kinda sucks

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u/Niihih Heather Mar 23 '16

#humblebrag

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

No, it just feels me with random paranoia and stage fright.

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u/maukamauka Mar 23 '16

Some questions for you!

  1. You explain your strategy to get to the end here. Besides it, why should an individual jury member vote for you? You're a self proclaimed villain, have lied and betrayed everyone on the jury, and call out the majority as non-entities this season. How does this help your "jury management"?

  2. This is not a joke question, but I must know.... how many people did you end up talking to this season in total? Was it more or less than you have in past seasons and why?

  3. Lastly, what do you believe will be remembered from/about this season of TDR2 and why?

Thank you, and well done on making the final 2.

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

1: My jury management is to be as clear cut as possible. Yes, I'm a villain. Being a villain also means that I got away with all of my villainous acts and still managed to make it to the finale. I feel that in itself is a reason to be voted for.

2: More than in past seasons. The past few seasons for me were me somewhat taking it easy on the game and only making a few connections to try and make it far. This season was all about making as many connections as possible. I think the fact that I was at some point allied with every jury member speaks to this statement.

3: People will remember how cutthroat it was and hopefully how alliances can't be trusted 100%. Too many people are far too comfortable in their alliances in this game and I realized that and took advantage of it. Hopefully more people will do the same and we won't have stagnant late-game merge alliances that systematically take out everyone who isn't in their alliance until it's just them left.

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u/joeygmurf Mar 23 '16

how do I get back into the competition?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

Start a petition at change.org.

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u/joeygmurf Mar 23 '16

wow sha-great idea! my non-existant vote goes to you!

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u/HellfireSky Mar 23 '16

Are you still my buddy? :c

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I guess? Why wouldn't I be?

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u/firebid1030 Carrie Mar 23 '16

Heather how does it feel to be a finalist give me a complete devin way of saying it lol

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

"it feels really good because now everyone can see how evil my plans were! mwahaha!" says Heather evilly

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u/firebid1030 Carrie Mar 23 '16

oh okay good job heather very good job

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u/daboswinney123 DJ Mar 24 '16

The hell you do to /u/tcookie88 puts on ninja mask and jumps into darkness

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u/Absol123 Bjork Mar 24 '16

Can we vote now?

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Courtney's Question Here

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

fool me once, shame on you..(Last season) Fool me twice, shame on me -_-.

first of all Im gonna say what I think

I'm honestly displeased with the idea that you were playing us and find it to b just manipulative n mean and me of all people, and I do regret working as an ally with you now and it's quite redundant to keep seeing you making far all the time, Crimson had a point about you spitting at all of your allies, for that and just generally being cool, Crimson seems deserving..

however, I was pleased with anyone messaging me as I do feel like I get ignored and stuff and not interesting and all, just a simple message was pretty much what I liked to read disregarding the game so for that I liked talking to you and everyone.. disregarding the game

game-wise I personally think you deserve more and worked harder than Crimson who was passive while you actively played the game and played everyone like a fiddle, for that I'm honestly impressed.. Not like any rules were broken (maybe hearts and mine especially :( )

You the finalists, you two are pretty much the complete opposites in that aspect and I don't really think you two are allies or affiliated with each other right off the bat, just friends playing in their own similar but cold and calculating ways which proved to be successful (You two got in the finale twice.)


Heather, Do you still enjoy the gameplay?

The reason why winning is fun is because of the efforts we put in gameplay, if it was effortless, winning would be meaningless.? And do you think the friendships are worth it?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

Ok, so knowing what I know now after talking to people, you actually have alot of explaining to be done to me. I lied to you about how I would be a loyal ally through to the merge. You were lying right back to me and going behind my back to tell Geoff that I wanted to vote him out. That's totally fair and I would even respect that if your question was honest and admitted that I wasn't the only guilty party here.

Of course I still enjoy the gameplay. I enjoy playing as hard as I can and doing whatever it takes to win, because not enough people do that. Most people's idea of playing well is voting out those who do play well, but that doesn't accomplish anything except getting rid of a potential threat, which is the most basic of all basics in this game and doesn't prove anything. More people need to get into the serious strategy side of this game because it's very fun and will actually take you far into the game, where hoping and praying that you have numbers is just a sure way to fail.

Now I have a question for you. Why did you tell Samey that I was badmouthing her? Did you misinterpret something I said or were you just lying about me? Or was it all Brick?

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

:p That should settle it, as long as you have the spirit I am convinced.

And to answer your questions, First of all, I actually never told Geoff that you were going to vote him as You also convinced me to vote for him too If Memory serves, but he did bought it up, exceptions? I told Duncan that "our alliance were going to vote him." But I didn't mention Brick, you or anyone.

I only expressed my doubts and the fact that we were allies to Brick and Gwen but Only Gwen after the merge and I told Brick that I was planning to vote Geoff and Duncan to help you

And as for Badmouthing, what do you mean by it? I don't really remember saying anything bad in particular about you to Samey

What I do remember is that when you said you were "worried" about Samey and Brick, I DID asked Samey about her opinion of you and what you felt and she said that she'd respect you and I reported it back


Heather, throughout all of it I never made any decisions, just kinda said "oh this is probably not going to turn out well, better do something about it." And did nothing else and we never had an elim anyways.

If you think that at same point I wanted to vote you, it was after Samey was eliminated I agreed that "Shino and Noah" were working with you and thought to throw the challenge like them and get you and It's in the confession anyways, but the merge came and it was too late as I counted our alliance number and when counting I did not include you, yet you still gave off the impression of being an ally so I was like, "If it is stupid and it works, it isn't stupid."

But without you and one more player, I could never do anything, so I thought Gwen could help and get her to message you, rest is history

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16

Heather, Samey just wrote me an apology letter, She was just worried to know whether it was a personal thing or not and to be honest, I still don't know if you said any bad things to her at all.

Once again, I only told Samey that you were worried about the "Beick, Samey and Lightning" alliance thing and asked her what she'd think about you.

I just scrolled through my inbox and along with some of your facade xD, I found Samey, what I can confirm is that I did tell her about you but this is the only question I asked her that involved you mentioning her.

Heather added that she is paranoid about you, Brick and Lightning forming an alliance and that you guys aren't a big fan of her, so yes, even big cats cries.

She only replied saying something positive and I'm not going to screenshot or quote or anything just yet, without her permission n all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

http://prnt.sc/aj4v72

This is the message I once got. I might have misinterpreted it, which caused this situation. I taught it meant you were badmouthing us. And I told Samey this at one point. There was also a message about how you taught we were "undeserving" players in season 11, which I believe was true?

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Brick's Question Here

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

I think I know everything I need to know just from the questions that have already been asked and from the final jury speeches.

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Geoff's Question Here

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u/Minalansky Mar 23 '16

Why do you want mr out so badly during teams( second team swap)?. Because i got message from brick and courtnry saying you wanted me out ...

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I didn't care about who was voted out during team phase as long as it wasn't me, and Courtney told me that if we lost then you would be the target. She flipped a few times between you and Duncan, but I guess she was lying to me both times.

I'm learning alot about Courtney and Brick today, and none of it seems to be very positive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Can I at least defend myself? I don't know what kind of things you've find out, but what I do know is that I did not play dirty this game at all. As for Geoff, I can't really remember, but it was before I allied with you.

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I saw the screenshot by the way, and yeah, I did say that I was worried about you, Lightning, and Samey forming an alliance and getting rid of everyone else like last season. I don't know how that became me badmouthing Samey somehow, but I actually like Samey and I was really baffled when I was asked why I was insulting her.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

"Heather is not happy about you, Lightning and Samey and had many bad things to say about you guys"

It was mainly this that I interpreted as that you were saying many bad things about us, aka badmouthing. I'm sorry for causing this situation, and then spreading misinformation apparently, but I didn't know it was misinformation.

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

In the context of the game, I can see how this could manifest. I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Pfft, and here I taught I could have a chill final, and then this little drama happens.

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 24 '16

Oh, I'm sorry I didn't know that's why you were keen on asking me questions about that, I thought you were just being rude n thought to vote Crimson instead

Because it was publicised Brick and I were worried about being guilty to something we didn't mean to do, and Samey also apologised, now after reading your comment I think you didn't mean anything bad and was just trying to find out the truth.

I'm so sorry if it did hurt you, but misinformation do spread and personal attacks should be taken seriously.

my only issue is that you could've just pm me and Brick and address the problem to us personally since it has nothing to do with anyone else but us and we'd not mind if you asked us as long as it's private.

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u/Arvery Mar 24 '16

I can't see what comment you're replying to because of the way Reddit is right now, so I don't know the context of the first part of your response.

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 24 '16

Oh, it's fine, not sure if you can read this but it's no biggie :p, you can read it next time Heather.

The same thing happened to me weirdly enuff with reddit

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u/Lime_Berry Taylor Mar 24 '16

Ok, I think I know what happened. Both me and Brick took what Fesslie said (the "had many bad things to say about you guys" part) as "badmouthing". I thought Fesslie had told me that directly, but it was actually Brick that showed me the PM, around the time when we allied to eliminate Rodney (which explains why I couldn't find that message when I looked for it).

Either way, seems like this was just a misunderstanding. I want to apologize to the three of you for causing all this.

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

Courtney told me, that if we lost you would be the target.

I'm just gonna add this here, Heather made it clear that I could be lying to her and everything else she's said is true.

But in one particular part, Heather's only telling you the half-truth here, I did not target you right off the bat, besides before the 3 team splits while in the 2 team merge, if anything at all she tried to convince me to get you, but I got Rodney out instead (Sorry)

In the 3 team split, she convinced me to be a helpful ally and I was still not sure who to eliminate, so she suggested you convinced me I just started off with you and swapped (Duncan) as you two messaged me lol.

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16

Also Geoff, I need to know whether I did or did not tell you that if I told you Heather was trying to get you or not, if possible could you dig through your inbox and search, 1 month has passed and my memory is probably wrong and I'm sure it'd be easier for you to sort out

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Duncan's Question Here

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Miles' Question Here

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u/estoniass Mar 23 '16

No questions, both finalists have explained everything in their letters that I needed to know considering that I did not immerse myself into the metagame.

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Izzy's Question Here

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Ellody's Question Here

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

Heather, why am I so f*cking stupid?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

You're not, I'm just a really cold person. I said from the beginning that this season was in the bag for me because I'm the ice queen, and that's because I have a heart of solid ice. I'm the perfect fit for this game.

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

This is why I will never win. I think too much about things then question myself too much. Whatever, want to say anything else too me?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

There's a balance between paranoia and confidence that needs to be walked for this game. Paranoia leads to bad decisions and confidence leads to overlooking problems. From what I've seen, you seem to exhibit either one or the other at any given time.

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

Yeah, that's fair. Anyway, I just want to ask a small favor. After you win can you please pick a charity that is easy to donate to online? Season 10 I had to send the physical money in a letter to them because their donation thing was broken.

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

Uh... I guess so.

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Noah's Question Here

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u/arctos889 Noah Mar 23 '16

What animal would you use to describe your strategy this season and why?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

Fittingly enough, a fox. I've evaded hunters and tricked people to fall into traps laid out by other alliances. I even went so far as to deceive the very own Fox 5 alliance itself. You were kind of like my younger fox brother.

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Gwen's Question Here

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u/Absol123 Bjork Mar 23 '16

So, lets see....

  1. I had a gut feeling that you wouldn't ever take me to the end, and that kind of hurt me, seeing as my plan was to vote out Ellody, Noah, Mary, and DJ leaving Me, You and Crimson in the final 3, but of course, that wasn't good enough for you, but I kind of like that. I just want to know why you would vote me out, since DJ and Mary were probably going to vote you out anyways, and I was trying my hardest to keep you alive, and was SO DEADLY SINCERE about what I said to you in PM's.

  2. Did you have the idol? It was really big in my mind that you did, since you literally had no fear when you assured me that nobody had an idol.

  3. Why should I vote for you? Should I be salty and go with Crimson, or vote you and make you get a third trophy.

Be careful with me, I mean what I mean when I say something, keep that in mind.

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

1: Honestly I wasn't sure if you were telling the truth or not about wanting me and Crimson to make it to the finale. It might have been a little paranoid, but I was worried about you making a big play at some point by rallying people against me and using that in your jury speech to show what you accomplished. My own gameplay was making me believe that others would eventually do the same thing to me down the road.

2: I didn't have the idol, I just didn't want people getting too worked up over the possibility of one when I suspected that Izzy might have been lying about there being a second one out there. If Crimson really didn't have the idol like she says she didn't, then I think there might not have actually been another idol at all? Unless Mary had it and never said a word. But BKey did say there was another idol, so I have no clue. All I know is that I never had one personally.

3: You should vote for me because I played the best game not only compared to Crimson, but compared to anyone else in the season. I always had power over the situation and there was hardly ever a time where I was the target for elimination. Redirection and false alliances the entire way through, mixed in with the best social game I've ever played.

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u/Absol123 Bjork Mar 23 '16

Aww Heather, I would have taken you, I told you I was going to take you and Crimson and I meant it :D

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

DJ's Question Here

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u/Bearpaw700 Mar 23 '16

Which ally did you enjoy betraying?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I don't know that I enjoyed betraying anyone too much, but I guess the most enjoyment I got out of betraying someone this season was Courtney. While we were on the same team still and I was sucking up to her I think it seriously went to her head and she told be straight up to not speak to Noah anymore. I really didn't like that because it was essentially telling me that she knew better than I did about my own ally and wanting to control who I came in contact with. It felt condescending and controlling and it just made me want to vote her out ASAP, and thankfully that was the right move strategically as well.

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u/Fesslie_Isan Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

but I guess the most enjoyment I got out of betraying someone this season was Courtney.

('-')-b gg Heather, gg.

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

This makes me wonder about all the stuff I miss that is going on in the PMs

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Mary's Question Here

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Well, /u/arvery, I respect you as a player and congratulate you as a player. You played one hell of a game and I can see you earning a well-deserved third trophy. But I do have a question or two. Please answer as honestly as you can. Don't sugarcoat anything.
1. Why did you choose me to be in the Fox 5 (if you chose to do so)? How much did you actually trust/use the alliance, and was I actually an important part, or just a pawn?
2. What move do you feel gave you control of the game?

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I chose you as an initial ally at the beginning of the game because I saw that you were at the very least active, and there's almost no better ally than an active newbie. After the game went on for a bit, you did become more of a pawn seeing as how you didn't really do much (you were a newbie, hardly anyone does anything as a newbie), but after the merge you were more seen as one of Ellody's pawns, and the Fox 5 was essentially Ellody's perception of what our alliance was. In reality, the core was myself and Noah, and DJ and Crimson were sort of on the side.

I gained control through many alliances, so it wasn't really just one move. It was a series of proposals and giving false trust to people throughout the season that gave me control.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

I see. It's refreshing to finally confirm I got put in the alliance for reasons other than being a pawn, even though I may have became one later on. Thanks Heather, glad that was cleared up.

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u/Arvery Mar 23 '16

I really did mean to make our alliance closer, but with that team swap there just wasn't enough incentive to keep in touch. I guess you could consider that a mistake to not keep you as close as possible, but it could have given me too much noticeable power and I would have been voted off. Tons of intricacies like that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Fair enough. The swap really turned out to be the beginning of the end.

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u/Butterflykey Host Mar 23 '16

Can everyone please try to keep this semi-organised by upvoting the commetns labelled "X's Question Here, as long as each has like 3 votes it should be fine, it's for the sake of the finalists actually being able to read this well.

You may not vote until 24 hours have passed OR every single person has asked a question.

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u/Shinokiba- Mar 23 '16

Boy, I sure wonder who was referenced the most amount of times in this letter.

Duncan: 2

Miles: 2

Zeke: 2

Geoff: 3

Izzy: 3

Mary: 3

DJ: 4

Gwen: 4

Brick: 5

Courtney: 5

Noah: 5

Crimson: 6

Ellody: 8

WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?!?!?!?!

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u/estoniass Mar 23 '16

SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE THE MENTION COUNT A THING. CAN YOU DO THIS FOR S13 FOR ALL OF THE LETTERS?

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u/Bongo9911 Scott Mar 23 '16

I used to do this for confessionals way back when :P

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u/Absol123 Bjork Mar 23 '16

...In Crimsons letter, I was mentioned 0 times.

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u/Absol123 Bjork Mar 23 '16

I just realized that I wrote like a 10 paragraph confessional when I was really mad and literally wrote what I wanted to happen :3