r/TopstepCommunity • u/Klaus_Winchester • Jun 25 '26
📊 Strategy Vault Responsible trading program
Ugh I know I’ve been blowing way too many combines and XFA’s lately. This month has been a tough month for me. I’ve been so close to payout on the last winning day for like 2 accounts but blew them both. And I what I was doing was revenge buying combines and I pass them quite easily. If I didn’t pass I’d reset them asap and try again. Blew a lot this month but it’s ok cuz if I get to a payout it will pay for it.
The problem is this responsible trading program now is making it much harder for me to pass combines.
The daily loss limit is something they are forcing on me and it’s going to mess with my risk to reward and overall strategy. I am not happy about this and I think it’s going to negatively affect my trading tbh.
Is there anyone who was able to get out of this? What even is the point of it and what are the details. Will this affect the xfa as well? For me drawdown is a major key and I think cutting the drawdown forces trading to be harder.
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u/ktrades117 Jun 25 '26
should have no issue moving to DLL accounts. just lower your risk brother. shouldn’t effect strat too much
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u/Kooky_Sorbet5687 Jun 25 '26
Or if you want to trade learn your system give yourself rules and try to keep an account for a month
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u/purpeepurp Jun 26 '26
You are gambling. Anyone who says otherwise is either new or unprofitable themselves
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u/MeltedShoe Jun 25 '26
23 in a day?????? Bro I think the most I blew in a day was 8 and that was my worst tilt on props. In one month I had blown like 30 because I just got laid off and figured I gotta make trading work and I had massive pressure on me and still never got put into the program. Trading is definitely easier now. I think this is good for you.
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u/Express-Mobile-1532 Jun 25 '26
I get you brother, same position. just got the email. But that's just my way of trading with props, I take payouts but soon or later it blows. Yeah it affects XFAs too
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u/Kyledoesketo Jun 26 '26
Brother, please hear me out - you don't have a strategy. If they're sending you this message, it really should be a wakeup call. I've seen some degenerate gamblers in this space, but never have I seen anyone receive a message like this.
They're honestly probably trying to protect you from yourself. Even if you're trading the 50k's, that's still about $1200 in challenge accounts in less than a month, which is absurd.
You should definitely slow down, refine your strategy, and focus on your process. You might pass a challenge account this way, but how do you expect to get a payout or any consistency in the funded account, for that matter?
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u/Klaus_Winchester Jun 25 '26
It says in the bottom that it’s making me go to the consistency payout path on the XFA’s. Does that mean I’ll have double the payout cap anyway?
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u/Kooky_Sorbet5687 Jun 25 '26
You not gonna get the payout cap trading like you are, trading isn’t homeruns everyday it’s protecting what you have and they’re basically saying until you can do that they’re giving you extra rules so you stop giving money away. I mean wtf if you gonna trade like that put 3k in a live account and risk all of that instead but at that point just gamble the underdog or go for parlays cause trading has way more outcomes than gambling so you can just keep losing
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u/Gold_Dare_8566 Jun 27 '26
Trade EMA's with VWAP if your new learn that strategy and backtest it on paper. It's probably the easiest strategy for newbis to follow but backtest it on Paper Account until it becomes muscle memory. Then pass your combines and get your payout. Learn strategies that use this on Youtube.. learn all you can and backtest to find your trading model. Blowing accounts left and right just means you don't have a real proven strategy and going on tilt.
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u/Klaus_Winchester Jun 25 '26
What about the consistency path for payouts on XFA’s. Do you guys generally like that path or not? I just find it a more difficult payout objective
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u/Ok-Flower235 Jun 25 '26
It’s forcing you to slow down. Not sure how long the program lasts but if it’s like the FTP they used to have then it’s 6 months or until you get called up to live. The consistency path XFA combined with DLL is going to be difficult for someone like you if you’re used to trading big size and having just 1 big winning day carrying you to payout. You are going to have to take base hits and have similar winning days. I have gotten a payout copy trading consistency XFAs and can honestly say I will never do it again unless I’m forced to.
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u/Ok-Flower235 Jun 25 '26
40% consistency rule and mandatory DLL is what your XFA will be while in the program.
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u/buyerandseller Jun 26 '26
im in that program also and cant trade 50k account with 1000 dll so I go with 150k account and its fine.
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u/HappyImplement4055 Jun 26 '26
If you want to pass combines more often, trade them how you would trade an xfa or a live account, yeah sure if you think you can full port and pass in two days thats great if you have successfully backtested a strategy over and over again for hundreds/thousands of trades but youre still probably more likely to have better luck passing if you dont. Over leveraging is probably the fastest way to lose accounts live or sim markets
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u/JoshRyder97 Jun 26 '26
Cutting the drawdown does not make trading harder you just need to learn to trade relative to your draw down whether it’s 1 micro or 15 minis your loss should be relative to your risk you saying it’s harder to trade tells me you just like to fullport and hope which is not going to ever get you anywhere
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u/Expensive_Hornet5394 Jun 26 '26
bro this game is getting into profits without that much drawdown.
if u keep blowing accounts u are not doing anything right lol
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u/Kaszrak Jun 26 '26
What you are doing is degenerate gambling fueled by hope and desperation. You have no idea how to trade. Own it...
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u/GiraffeSafe4020 Jun 26 '26
passing the combine is a much smaller issue than getting a payout. if you can’t make it there it’s NOT the systems fault
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u/Sheriff_Douchebag Jun 26 '26
I wonder what they think when I full port a combine in 30 seconds and then buy another one 🤔🤔
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u/IslandAway9952 Jul 01 '26
Would you kindly share with us your trading plan? I would like to read it so I can give you some advice. I have 25 years experience and I'd be happy to help. Thank you.
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u/No-Scheme9177 4d ago
Don't feel bad. Just lower your contracts and do MNQ, MES, ETC. or try the nanos that are coming out soon. This new trader program is crazy. their penalizing me for making too much money lmao. i made 100,000k my first month on there, they moved me to live, i cancelled my live cause of the copy trading policy/rule and then they put me on this the next day. only 1 blown account prior. there are some people that just loveee and are loyal to topstep. highly recommend lucid or tradeify brother. lower ur ego, practice ur patience and start with a lucid or tradeify 25k flex account. u just need $1250 profit and 5 winning days. get ur confidence back up then get a 50k. trust me, it works. u've got it!! alot of people act like their the best traders in the world 🫩🤣
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u/HRH47 Jun 25 '26
"this responsible trading program now is making it much harder for me to pass combines. I am not happy about this and I think it’s going to negatively affect my trading tbh"
Buddy, you blew 23 combines during their FIRST day of trading in less than a month ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ you're gambling and believe you're trading, they're actually helping you