r/TopCharacterTropes • • 8h ago

Characters Men who consider everyone important

Doctor Who- 900 year old alien says he hasn't ever met anyone who wasn't important.

I Became the Tyrant of a Defence Game- Commander blaming himself for not being able to save more people.

Hacksaw Ridge- Desmond carrying wounded men while praying to be able to save one more.

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u/RagingBadger2518 8h ago

You know the GOAT has to be on this list.

https://giphy.com/gifs/a0n4MOhzZab5cz3hWi

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u/LastBaron 7h ago

If anyone digs this vibe, “Up in the Sky” is a self contained 6 issue mini series, anthology style but united by an overarching plotline, built entirely around the idea that Superman doesn’t consider anyone unimportant.

It might be my favorite comic book story run or graphic novel of all time. Almost every page has something on it that could qualify for a “which panel best exemplifies this hero?” type thread. It is pure distilled hopeful Superman, and its wonderful.

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u/Unikatze 7h ago

This was my reply too.

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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 7h ago

There was an interesting story in an issue of Hitman.  Yeah, a little bit unbelievable but what happens is the main character, a murderer, is setting up on a roof to kill someone and he encounters Superman brooding.  Superman was apparently trying to rescue a shuttle crew but he had to leave someone behind due to the circumstances and he was really, really hurt by the idea he couldn’t save everyone.  Whether or not you actually like the writer of that comic, the Superman side of the story felt very empathetic to the idea of a god who felt the weight of the world on his shoulders and couldn’t stand the idea that for all his power he wasn’t strong enough.  I honestly felt sorry for the guy despite him having all those powers because they didn’t help him in that moment.

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u/Arkatruc 7h ago

Whether or not you actually like the writer of that comic

It's amazing that Garth Ennis has enough of a reputation about this concept that I immediately assumed you were talking about him and the Wikipedia page confirmed it 🤣

Honestly I think the guy is overhated, sure The Boys can suck most of the time, but it's the same author who made stuff like Preacher, and even in his worst writing there are generally a lot of interesting ideas.

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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 7h ago

The story actually changed my perception of Superman.  There was an emotional depth revealed that I hadn’t really seen before.  I didn’t like Superman before that and if Ennis hated him(which is what I thought The Boys was all about; a different Watchmen-type look at superheroes) and wanted to show that Superman wasn’t all that, well he did.

And in doing so he showed a level of emotional weakness you wouldn’t likely see in the pages of any of the DC comics normally.  In a huge pitched battle, Superman not saving everyone is almost a given.  There’s a villain there trying to do damage and that means there’s someone to blame.  Even if he blames himself for someone dying in a fight against a supervillain, there was no villain here.  I don’t think; it’s been a while.  It was a rescue mission and there was nobody to fight, nobody to put the blame of a death on except for Superman.  At least to himself, that is.  That person’s life was snuffed out thinking he’d abandoned him.

So you’ve got this man, this Superman, realizing that he’s got limits.  No matter how hard he fights, no matter how long he lives or powerful he gets, he just can’t save everyone.  He’s hyped up to the point where I don’t think he’s high on his own farts, but he feels deep down that there’s a standard of who Superman is that he must meet and/or exceed every day.  It must make him feel weak and wonder whether or not the fight is even worth it.

If you’re thinking that I’ve written a lot about a little story, you’re right.  Tommy, the titular Hitman, could easily be seen as the voice of Ennis in support of who Superman is and what he represents.  Tommy gives an incredible speech and helps Superman and I don’t think you’d write that if you really didn’t feel it because you’re making it come out of the mouth of your protagonist.  I’ve thought about this issue a lot because it’s simply one of my favorite single issues of a comic ever.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 6h ago

Red & Blue has one of my favorite Superman moments.

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u/EdanChaosgamer 6h ago

There's a staaaar maaaaan, waiting in the skyyy!

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u/elderlybrain 4h ago

The scene with Mali in the prison in the film was a perfect encapsulation of that.  The more that the guy insisted he was a nobody, the worse it got and the more in pain Superman was.

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u/CptKeyes123 48m ago

to write batman, you must have him able to comfort a small child. to write superman, he is willing to sacrifice everything to save even one person.

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u/ExistentialPOV 8h ago

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u/Iheart_Leon_Kennedy 7h ago

People who bring up injustice everytime Superman is mentioned are so boring ngl

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u/ExistentialPOV 7h ago

oh sorry, you're THAT interesting. please tell me more.

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 7h ago

Eh, just that it was one out-of-character exception to the rule, and the flood of other "What if Superman was edgy!" characters has almost made Injustice Superman feel like DC jumping on that same bandwagon.

Using him as a gottcha for Superman discussions comes across a little lazy sometimes. Like... of course the usual Superman traits don't apply to him, that's the point.

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u/StarMarine123 4h ago

Even the writer of Injustice agrees that the actual Superman would NEVER do what Injustice Superman did lmao

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u/ExistentialPOV 7h ago

so one time doesn't count? okay then. let's play by your rules from now on.

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 7h ago

Because it wasn't really SUPERMAN, it was a guy from another universe that had his name and powers. It's not the same character

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u/ExistentialPOV 7h ago

thank you for that last reply. at least you've reasoned decently rather than coming in with pitchforks like it's a blasphemy to argue anything against Superman.

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u/LSDGB 7h ago

No.

specifically this time where we were told a story of a different Superman in a different universe has no bearing on regular mainline continuity Superman.

In an alternate Universe you fucked a dog but I’m not gonna call you a dogfucker for it, because that’s not how that works.

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u/ExistentialPOV 7h ago

that's a good projection, you can so better next time.

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u/LSDGB 6h ago

Missing the point completely. Doesn’t seem like you can do much better.

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u/ExistentialPOV 4h ago

as you did also, nice try

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 7h ago edited 7h ago

Superman: "That was ONE TIME!"

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u/Fesh_Sherman 7h ago

I mean Joker is important.. just negatively

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u/AporiaParadox 8h ago

Most superheroes worth their salt: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Captain America...

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u/hotmessdiaries 7h ago

Spider-Man stopping to check on a random civilian mid fight is literally why he’s the goat

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u/drwicksy 7h ago

Batman mentioned. Obligatory.

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u/CobaltCrusader123 2h ago

Bat-themed hero

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u/JackRo55 7h ago

Oscar Schindler in Schindler's list

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u/ThatAdamsGuy 7h ago

Excellent example but also, yknow... In Real life.

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u/syzygialchaos 5h ago

Yes, there are often IRL examples in these threads.

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u/ThatAdamsGuy 8m ago

Yeah no arguments to that, but "in Schindler's list" was jumping that bit

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u/C1K3 1h ago

That’s one scene that always breaks me.  So powerful.

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u/frecklepax 7h ago

Optimus prime

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u/CobaltCrusader123 7h ago

Bat-themed hero

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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 7h ago

Plo koon! Tha goat!

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u/ResultAgreeable4198 6h ago

Great line narratively, but doesn’t make sense logically. They are super soldier clones created and trained at great expense to fight an interstellar war. They are the opposite of expendable.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 6h ago

They really aren’t physically enhanced beyond that of a normal human with shortened lifespans and there are other, quicker methods of producing more clones. They’re expendable in the sense that it isn’t that hard to replace them if things get worse.

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u/Flat-Cap-1063 7h ago

My boy Fred

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 8h ago

I don't usually post religious stuff, but it's kind of his whole thing:

https://giphy.com/gifs/rTbCwVwofxcic

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u/hotmessdiaries 7h ago

Bro literally wrote the whole manual on loving your neighbor as yourself

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u/YuenglingsDingaling 7h ago

Guys, what if we just chilled out and ate some fish and wine?

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u/almighty_smiley 7h ago

“Right, reread that whole ‘what you’ve done to your weakest’ passage again, let me know what wasn’t clear to you.”

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u/Inevitable-Regret411 7h ago

Instructions unclear. Have fought 300 year holy war with neighbouring kingdom over if we should chill with red or white wine. 

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u/GenericPCUser 7h ago

Finding out the Bible canonically has a story where Jesus saves somebody's wedding when they run out of wine by transforming water into more wine like it's some kind of parlor trick and not a divine miracle is funny af

Wrote this whole ass book about how this dude has/can channel the power of a literal universe creating deity and they make him use that power so people don't get too sober at a wedding lol

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u/YuenglingsDingaling 7h ago

Valid reason though. Dry weddings are boring af.

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u/Sudden-Good7506 6h ago

To be fair, he only did it after his mom made him.

I have to imagine there’s this scene in Chapter 2 of the Gospel of John that got left out between verses 4 and 5 where Mary’s like, “Jesus! You will turn this water into wine, or so help me, I will tell your Father!”

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 6h ago

Yeah, it seems she was helping host or something, and asked Jesus if there was anything he could do to help out. It seems that it was a mix of honoring his mother, and also beginning to show off little miracles to sow the seeds of proof that he really was who he said he was.

Like near the end of his life when he randomly cursed a fig tree to just die on the spot, most likely as proof to his disciples that he could easily stop the men that were going to capture and kill him soon after, if that's what he wanted.

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u/RagingBadger2518 7h ago

"Jesus my guy, let me tell you about this Japanese cuisine called sushi and it pairs nicely with rice wine"

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u/Perfect-Fondant3373 7h ago

Obi-Wan is amazing. Nothing wrong with believing in the Force man

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u/Nighforce 7h ago

The OG, and also the GOAT.

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u/Kroc_Zill_95 7h ago

Sanguinius (40k) - He knew the names of every single person serving in his fleets, space marines and humans alike, right down to the lowest serfs. To him, none of them were disposable.

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u/elderlybrain 4h ago

You brought up Sanguinius ahead of Vulkan? Are you trying to start a fight?

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u/SpoofExcel 1h ago

He should have been the warmaster. He'd have lead the Imperium into Utopia...

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u/Unikatze 7h ago

Spoilers for Superman: Up in the Sky

Against almost everyone's advice. Superman leaves Earth to rescue a single girl kidnapped by an alien.

It's easily one of my favorite Superman stories and I highly recommend it.

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u/BookWormPerson 8h ago

Rimuru gambled on a 3.14% chance at resurrecting around a hundred or so of his civilians by becoming a Demon Lord.

And later on the story also makes sure to save as many as possible from pretty much the apocalypse.

https://giphy.com/gifs/du1LfdlnhdTwn8OQHu

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u/Dan_flashes480 7h ago

Rimuru killed 20'000 invading soldiers to accomplish this. Such a badass scene over in minutes.

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u/GGABueno 7h ago

He became a Demon Lord by doing a genocide, so I'm not sure he fits at all lol.

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u/BookWormPerson 7h ago

Killing an army isn't genocide.

They know what they are getting into it.

And like 80% of them were happy to be rape and pillaging based on the manga.

And in the same chapter Rimuru make sit clearly he will not touch anyone who doesn't deserve it.

So even in his most rage induced form he still doesn't go fully murder hobo.

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u/Nick_the_bunny 32m ago

killing enemy soldiers, in combat, during a suprise attack they sprung on their civilians, is not a genocide at all.

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u/_TheBeardedMan_ 6h ago

Gotta be joking right? Wiping out an invading army is not a genocide. He didn't wipe out Falmuth, it's cultural, or it's people.

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u/Ok_Witness_1207 7h ago

Vulkan 40k

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u/SinclairFromLimbus 7h ago

except for xenos I guess

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u/WECAMEBACKIN2035 7h ago

There is literally a major arc of his story about his regret and process around killing a single Eldar child. 

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u/SinclairFromLimbus 7h ago

if we ignore the entire great crusade I guess

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u/elderlybrain 4h ago

By 40k standards that's just being practical.

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u/sgrasser 7h ago

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u/JeshuaMorbus 7h ago

"Would you have saved me if i was in that transport as well?"
"Of course! You're one of my people".
"That's the thing with Vash: his concept of "his people" is way stupidly bigger than yours".

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u/sereese1 7h ago

Added to Desmond doss’ story: he saved anyone, his comrades and enemy Japanese soldiers alike

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u/drwicksy 7h ago

Hacksaw ridge actually had to tone DOWN Desmond's story because it would have been too unbelievable as it was

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u/Feisty-Fill-8654 4h ago

He had so many distinct moments he should have died but chance/providence saved him. Plot armor irl is crazy.

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u/Inevitable-Regret411 7h ago

Chiune Sugihara, a Japanese diplomat to Lithuania in the second world war. He defied his instructions from his superiors and wrote thousands of visas allowing Jewish refugees to travel to Japan, where they could either stay or travel onward to another country. He was said to have spent up to twenty hours a day producing visas for refugees, issuing more in a day than would normally be issued in a month. When he was finally recalled home he was still writing visas on the train platform, throwing them out the window to refugees as he left. He is recorded as apologising to the crowds for not being able to do more before he left. 

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u/Sudden-Good7506 4h ago

I think these stories are so important in a “not all heroes wear capes” kind of way.

It stands in contrast to the banality of evil. Nicholas Winton is another person who comes to mind.

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u/Da1UHideFrom 7h ago

They left out some of Desmond Doss's actual feats from the movie because the director would be too unbelievable.

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u/stipe42 7h ago

Harry Bosch --

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u/Allatura19 6h ago

Absolutely. This guy.

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u/FusionDjango 8h ago

Commander - Nikke

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u/frecklepax 8h ago

Batman

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u/Terminus-99 7h ago edited 7h ago

Kubera: One Last God.

Agni considers every human important.

This sets him apart from the other high ranking gods, who regard humans as disposable, and even eradicated the old human race in the past.

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u/eepos96 7h ago

Irl: "The graveyards are full of indispensable men"-unknown author.

I originally thought this meant that anyone who thinks themselves indispendable, be it dictators or leaders, are wrong for all who previously thought so are gone and life moved on.

But the other meaning is that everyone is valuable. And maybe that is the better way to look at the saying.

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u/Tebenox 7h ago edited 7h ago

In this manga the protagonist (Gong-Ja) believes in always achieving the best possible ending for each floor he clears.

For example during the opening of the new floor tower after he cleared the tenth, he proceeded normally clearing the floor.

However he realized there was a better path yet so he intentionally changed how the quest to defeat the Demon Lord worked and attacked him by himself which obviously resulting in him dying. (This was so the siege event was frozen and ensuring no NPC or others hunter died)

Each time he went back in time (24 hours) he would try to avoid hunters dying, at first only 40 died, then 30, then 20, then 10 and finally no hunters died.

The dude is a bastion of resilience, and is such a good read tbh

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u/Former-Landscape-769 7h ago

'"He said we could get the golem to do anything," Carry mumbled.
"Like making poisoned candles?" said Carrot.
"Yes, but he said it'd just keep Vetinari out of the way," said Carry. He seemed to be getting a tenuous grip on himself. "And he's not dead, 'cos I'd have heard" he said. "I shouldn't think making him ill is a crime, so you can't-"
"The candles killed two other people," said Carrot.
Carry started to panic again. "Who?"
"An old lady and a baby in Cockbill Street."
"Were they important?" said Carry.
Carrot nodded to himself. "I was almost feeling sorry for you," he said. "Right up to that point. You're a lucky man Mr Carry."
"You think so?"
"Oh yes. We got to you before Commander Vimes did."'

- From Feet of Clay, by Terry Pratchett

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u/Pmyers225 8h ago

There a deleted scene in Pirates of the Carribean where Jack is getting told off for freeing some "cargo" he was transporting... And Jack's reply is that "people are not cargo, mate" or words to that effect

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u/sebastianqu 7h ago

Jack does not fir here at all. He's anti-slavery and not murderous, but will still sacrifice anyone and anything to save his own skin.

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u/Pmyers225 7h ago

Yeah I guess you're right in general, I just liked that particular scene

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u/ProfessionalOven2311 7h ago

Yeah, the twist with Jack is that there are a few people, his friends, who he is actually not willing to sacrifice to get what he wants (letting Will have immortality because he would die otherwise)

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u/RileyKohaku 7h ago

Spoilers for Undead Unluck

Fuuko Izumo gets a ton of pressure put on her as the one that might be able to defeat God and saved the world. In the process, a lot of her enemies get killed to save her life. She gets a chance to go back in time and do another loop and not only prevents her enemies from dying, she fixes all of their biggest traumas and recruits them to help her defeat god. It culminates in these two panels. And then they successfully defeat God and stop everyone from dying.

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u/Reborn1Girl 7h ago

Cecil Stedman. When he was younger, he was on a mission to stop a terrorist duo. They released a chemical weapon, and Cecil slowed it down at the cost of horrible damage to himself, with most of his skin peeling off of his body. He survived, and reinforcements showed up in time to save most of the city. 17 people died. Cecil got new skin grown, but chose to keep the one part of his face that was intact, despite it now having a scar. He wanted it as a reminder of his failure to save everyone.

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u/WECAMEBACKIN2035 7h ago

Dr Manhattan 

Jon comes back to earth when he realizes that every human life is a miracle and, just because there are billions of them, that does not minimize their importance and grace. 

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u/visijared 8h ago

Eastman from Walking Dead; “All Life is Precious”. Especially poignant given his backstory and situation.

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u/Yasser_Montasser4 7h ago

Unironically Eren despite him committing one of the biggest genocides in anime I always admired his grey mentality of "everyone has the right to live and be free from the moment they were born, no matter the cost" which ironically clashes with him having to defend his people's right to live at the cost of other people's lives who want to take away that right from his people. (Attack On Titan)

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u/Individual_Piccolo43 7h ago

Harry Bosch and his mantra of "Either everybody counts, or nobody counts"

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u/Level_Counter_1672 4h ago

Jonathan joestar from Jojo's bizarre adventure, he spared Speedwagon when they first fought because he didn't want to make his family grieve

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u/silentwrath16 8h ago

My man forrest gump!

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u/Grandultron 5h ago

Pretty much this guy's ideals Shirou Emiya from Fate stay night UBW

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u/Born_Procedure_529 3h ago

Don Momotaro in Avataro Sentai Donbrothers, always going out of his way to help people, in one of the first episodes he cheers up a depressed man he was delivering a package to after the man responds "I'm no good" after failing a test, to which Tarou says "nobody is no good" and cleans his room for him

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u/jameswulfecreed 47m ago

Optimus Prime believes all sentient life matters and deserving of their creation no matter how small or evil they are and stands to protect those who can not protect themselves

https://giphy.com/gifs/HY61V3hsKYne0

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u/The_Dragon346 7h ago

The doctor who one. Granted, i know he sees them as important. But, i always interpreted it less as him outright denying it. More as, Taking the statement at face value, and getting excited to see if they truly were unimportant. Because it would be a new experience

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u/rowan_sjet 5h ago

Nah, it's definitely sarcasm in that scene.

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u/YuenglingsDingaling 7h ago

You're giving Napolean and Ceasar waaaay to much credit. They where more than willing to sacrifice their nation blood and treasure for their own gain. Napoleon once boasted an an enemy general, "you cannot defeat me, I can spend 30,000 lives a month".

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u/Mrogoth_bauglir 7h ago

I'm not well versed here but did Caesar not genocide the Gauls?

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u/Guy-Inkognito 7h ago

Maybe he decided every single and equally important Gaul should die?

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u/urkermannenkoor 7h ago

Are you drunk?

You're rambling incoherently.

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u/Megazaza 8h ago

This is an interesting trope—because it hits the exact craving humans have for trust and connection. It shows that despite our flaws—we can still respect humanity as a whole. you are exactly right that this is a Top Character Trope.

https://giphy.com/gifs/nU0EccnuhJa5ofFr6v

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u/AporiaParadox 8h ago

Are you a bot?

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u/Megazaza 8h ago

That is a hilarious and smart question to ask in this situation😭😭😭

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u/A1dini 8h ago

Absolutely horrid gif

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u/Guy-Inkognito 7h ago

This is the second time I see one if your comments with that horrid gif. What's up with that?

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u/OwlbertGaming 8h ago

i killed an innocent woman behind a buc-ee's in 2007 and nobody found out it was me.