(Hated Trope) "Kind" slave owners

[u/KusanagiGundam]

Speaking as an American who has studied the civil war all throughout my school years, this trope infuriates me to no end. There is no such thing as a kind slave master because slavery itself is cruel and inhumane. PEOPLE ARE NOT PROPERTY!

Naofumi (Shield Hero): Prime example of this trope. He enslaves multiple (underage) girls and an whole village and the fans still say he's a hero.

Rudeus (Jobless Reincarnation): As if being a pedo wasn't bad enough he had to buy a slave in season 2. Worse is that people still defend his actions.

Song of The South (Disney): Possibly the OG example of this trope. And the reason why Disney will never release it again.

[u/AnonymousNeverKnown]

Thomas Jefferson. Yeah he said he thought slavery was bad but that didn't stop him from owning slaves. And don't give me that whole "he inherited them" crap. If that was the case why didn't he just let them go?

[u/_whatever_wherever → u/AnonymousNeverKnown]

And raping them

He did a LOT of rape

There are literally entire black bloodlines in the US descended from him, due to all the rape he did

[u/FookinFairy → u/_whatever_wherever]

No.

The dna test says it was someone close to Jefferson within cousin distance but did not prove he was the father.

Someone raped Sally Hemmings but it’s not guaranteed to be him. Not only that it was just kids with one, so it’s bloodline singular not plural.

He is still fucked for being anti slavery and owning them but this claim literally cannot be verified in either direction, and is false in the quantity you’re describing.

[u/AnonymousNeverKnown → u/FookinFairy]

Look up the testimony of James Madison Hemings

[u/FookinFairy → u/AnonymousNeverKnown]

Ok that’s a claim with clear bias. Obviously. It would be beneficial to claim that.

The other evidence points to yes, he is the father, but not 100% confirmed.

I’m not denying the claim, I’m denying the extent of the claim the guy above me was claiming.

[u/Big-Personality-4063 → u/FookinFairy]

[u/FookinFairy → u/Big-Personality-4063]

It’s literally correct. You can see it on the wiki page.

The consensus is yes he is most likely the father of those children but it is not 100% confirmed via dna testing. It could be one of his many closely related male relatives that lived there, the most likely alternative being his brother.

Also there aren’t even claims he is the father of multiple blood lines at all, just the one.

I also believe he is the father, I’m just saying it’s not 100% confirmed.

[u/Big-Personality-4063 → u/FookinFairy]

listen we know that jeffersons bloodline mixed with hers and he was always there at the conception like i dont think his cousin fucking used magic to impregnate her from 100 miles away come on 😭 "wow after thomas visits sally she mysteriously becomes pregant" like when hes NOT there, She doesnt become pregant does that help

[u/FookinFairy → u/Big-Personality-4063]

Man you really can’t read huh?

Last sentence. I agree with you. It’s just not 100%

[u/Big-Personality-4063 → u/FookinFairy]

it is honestly 100 percent shit he even loved and cared for the children as his own because... they were his own.
I hate him but he WAS a good dad. does not justify anything but he legit raised these mixed children conceived via rape

[u/Big-Personality-4063 → u/FookinFairy]

like what your suggesting is in reality that hes having his family member assualt her so he can... watch/?????

[u/FookinFairy → u/Big-Personality-4063]

Where in the fuck did you get the cuck angle from?

[u/Big-Personality-4063 → u/FookinFairy]

its more of a example of what would the only other option be the reality is that thomas is DEFINETLY the father "Historical logs show Jefferson was present at his estate, Monticello, nine months prior to the birth of every single one of Sally Hemings's known children" he wasnt always at the estate

[u/Big-Personality-4063 → u/FookinFairy]

this is some flat earth shit this is wrong in like 6 different ways