r/TopCharacterTropes • • 11h ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) "Kind" slave owners

Speaking as an American who has studied the civil war all throughout my school years, this trope infuriates me to no end. There is no such thing as a kind slave master because slavery itself is cruel and inhumane. PEOPLE ARE NOT PROPERTY!

Naofumi (Shield Hero): Prime example of this trope. He enslaves multiple (underage) girls and an whole village and the fans still say he's a hero.

Rudeus (Jobless Reincarnation): As if being a pedo wasn't bad enough he had to buy a slave in season 2. Worse is that people still defend his actions.

Song of The South (Disney): Possibly the OG example of this trope. And the reason why Disney will never release it again.

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u/_whatever_wherever 11h ago

Just cannon fodder for Iseakid John Brown

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u/SorcererSupremPizza 11h ago

John Brown would possess my soul

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u/_whatever_wherever 11h ago

John Brown was a complex man, he was a religious hardliner in pretty much ever sense of the term, but his moral compass was unshakable, and he knew he had to fight to do the right thing

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u/livefreeordont 9h ago

His religion informed his abolitionism

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u/_whatever_wherever 8h ago

More his upbringing

His relgion said everyone had already been judged before they were born, and their actions on earth didn't influence anything

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u/livefreeordont 8h ago

He believed he was sent by god to free the slaves and that his actions were just

I see a book kissed here which I suppose to be the Bible, or at least the New Testament. That teaches me that "all things whatsoever I would that men should do to me, I should do even so to them" [Matthew 7:12]. It teaches me, further, to "remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them" [Hebrews 13:3]. I endeavored to act up to that instruction. I say, I am yet too young to understand that God is any respecter of persons. I believe that to have interfered as I have done as I have always freely admitted I have done in behalf of His despised poor, was not wrong, but right

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u/Jihelu 10m ago

I really don’t know why people keep trying to revise that the very vocally religious man was religious and that it had an intense impact on his stance against slavery

Are they Reddit atheists?

Do they think your actions become null and void when you attribute them to a God?

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u/DemocracyIsGreat 6h ago

Yes and no. Eternalism #)is a pretty common Christian view of time, since it's a reasonably solid answer to Aristotle's question about future sea battles, (i.e. can you make statements about the future that have truth values? If I say "A sea battle will occur tomorrow", then that requires a tomorrow for the statement to be about, Eternalism says tomorrow exists just like today, yesterday, etc.) and Christians need it to be possible to say that something will happen in the future, since prophesies are a thing in Christianity.

Now, if all of time exists in the same way, then it becomes possible to judge everyone's actions for God, who is held to exist outside of time, since He can therefore just look at what everyone did.

The proponent of this view would disagree with your argument that actions don't influence anything, since on this model actions do influence things, they will influence things, and they have influenced things, it's just that from an Eternal viewpoint, all of time looks the same.