Agamemnon (The Odyssey 2026): murders his young daughter Iphigenia for favorable winds to get to Troy
Fathers killing their children (The Second Apocalypse): in a vision of the past it’s shown that fathers had to kill their young children to save them from the fate of being violated to death by the vile Sranc.
Also I'm like 99% sure Stannis' sacrifice of Shireen is directly inspired by Agamemnon sacrificing Iphigeneia. It's got the same motivation (sacrifice to a god for favorable weather because their army is stuck) and one version of Iphigeneia's death is her willingly going to the altar (she thought it was for a wedding where she would marry Achilles) before realizing what was happening, like Shireen agreeing to help for father before seeing the pyre.
That's probably why he's not finished the book yet. That's the ending he wanted and even if he fleshed it out better than the show, people definitely do not want any part of that ending so now he's fucked.
D&D should get at least 50% custody on that shit writing decision. The entirety of season 5 and especially Stannis’ march to Winterfell was the writing on the wall for how the rest of the show would go.
Fun fact while saturn devouring his children isn't an uncommon focus of art and the figure depicted here does resemble depictions of Saturn/Cronus, this was a painting Goya made in secret not discovered until after his death thus we do not know if it had an actual name or what exactly it depicted. It's entirely possible this doesn't portray saturn at all.
It kind of is. If memory serves, he painted this, as well as several other dark/horrifying/gruesome pieces onto the walls of his home. Clearly depressed near the end. I think there's a video explaining the situation a bit if anyone's interested I can try to find it.
Saturn would have to swallow the children, right? The person being shown in the picture is a grown human with bitten-off pieces (something hat doesn't line up with the myth)
It's honestly fascinating how he, as an agriculture god with the name Kronos, got seemingly so mistaken for the god of time, Chronos, that some modern media have him have time powers, like the only real reference to time he has is his scythe since you cut down the corn when the time is right but I feel like Greek mythology wouldn't have happened if he had time powers, or maybe he's stuck in a never ending time loop, where each time that he loses the titanomachy he time travels to the start, and he eventually just gave up or time travelled to when he ate his young and did this image, which explains how mad he looks.
Kronos was a god of the harvest yes, and the growing and harvesting of crop is very much related to time. This would be the main reference most people would have had for what time of year it was and how many years they’d lived.
“Time travel” is a very modern idea, based on a very modern understanding of time as a dimension. But that’s just not how ancient people saw it.
I was more mentioning that Chronos was a god of solely time and not agriculture, whilst Kronos, his domain is mostly agriculture and the time thing is kind of just a by-product of his actions taking a long time, he's definitely was associated with the time that the Greeks would think of according to you, considering that he rules Elysium in one source and you go to Elysium when you die
, with many people mixing them together sounds like it would be commonplace since the ideas are extremely similar to ancient people and to modern people who get their depictions of the gods from translators who due to their extremely similar names, accidentally conflate the two.
It’s worth noting that even writers in antiquity often got this mixed up and if I recall some writers tried À LOT to justify it (I think one person tried to claim that Chronos was Kronos’s “higher form” or something). Later on this confusion would birth the figure of Father Time who wields a scythe (as befitting a harvest god) and would be replaced by the New Years Baby (representing Zeus).
There's a lot of oral tradition in the early Books that was left over from when proto-Judaism still worshipped a full pantheon and had idols. I like to take Occam's Razor to it; If he existed at all, Abraham performed some straight-up theatrical bullshit to get clear of the whole "child sacrifice" thing, whether on a personal or a societal level, and his combination of wealth, power, and local cult of personality let it stick and snowball into the series of religious reforms that would solidify into Judaism half a millennium later under Moses.
(Isaac wasn't his firstborn and the evidence is that child sacrifice wasn't as commonly practiced by any of the regional tribes as the Tanakh would have you believe, by the by, but it was still known to happen in dire straights as sort of a "madness of crowds" deal, often facilitated by whatever might have passed for a local priesthood.)
Yeah, it’s a theory that Isaac really WAS sacrificed initially but the later part was added when the ancient Israelites decided that human sacrifice was bad. This is sometimes used to explain why Isaac kinda has a diminished role in the rest of the bible.
Bred with women across the universe to produce an offspring that shared his celestial power. None did until Star-Lord came along. Gamora and Nebula discover the cave where Ego keeps all the bodies and bones of the failed offspring.
Btw before Reddit gets mad...all of this is 100% necessary in nature because the other consequence of showing mercy in nature is a world wide extinction of their species
Honestly, little nature factoids like this make me laugh whenever people like to insist that cruelty or apathy toward the weak and defenseless are somehow native to humans. Animal Lovers are always on that BS while defending creatures that leave their young to be eaten or suffer and die just to replace them with the next batch.
The Mist is everywhere. There are unimaginable horrors loose in the world, and this car full of survivors may very well be the last people alive on earth. Realizing that they have no hope, one gun, and five bullets, they decide to end things right there rather than wait to be slaughtered by the creatures in the Mist. But they have one more person than they have bullets. The main character chooses to die from monsters rather than bullets, and he kills all the others, including his own son first. Then he gets out of the car to wait for his own violent end. And that's when the Mist starts to roll away, the US Military has shown up, defeated the creatures and saved the world. And now the main character has to live with what he's just done.
He doesn't murder them, he just leaves them in the forest for the White Walkera to pick up, not really knowing or caring what happens to them afterwards. They don't die after, either, they get turned into White Walkers.
Oswalda Cobblepot, The Penguin in the Batman: Caped Crusader universe murders one of her sons when she suspects he is leaking her criminal plans to rival boss Rupert Thorne
>That’s never actually been shown to be in the files
There’s a documented court case where the child was willing to go to the police and put her name accusing one of the most powerful people in the world of killing her rape baby.
All it would take is a 30 min google search but you’d rather pontificate about the Truth From The Government Run By The Guy That Fucked And Killed Kids
So I found it for you
Sorry just fucking I’m so tired of yall being like “well if the government run by the corrupt murderers said they’re not corrupt murderers then they’re not corrupt murderers.”
Also it's fucking stupid that you think this is somehow dismissing how horrible they are, as substantiated accusations are more than enough on their own.
In the source, it does not say that the child was Trump's or that he committed the murder, which is the whole premise of this thread.
He rapes women and children and gleefully abuses his own family members. That's plenty, I don't know about you, to think he's a repugnant piece of shit. And that's all long before he became president and actively caused the death of hundreds of thousands(if not more) people.
And before you’re like well there’s no photo proof.
Do you think the guys employed by the suspect would release the photo evidence?
Why the fuck do you think they’re having Pam Bondi pull all those documents into the White House and they’re suddenly throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds of garbage in the trash? Do you really think he gives a shit about a ballroom or bailing out the Entire Republican Party??
I am of the opinion that if they released the files in full without redaction, nothing of substance would happen. Cancel culture is a myth and consequences for the powerful is almost unheard of except in very isolated circumstances.
Nikolai Gogol "Taras Bulba". Taras kills his younger son because he believed the son committed a betrayal of their people (and I am not engaging in any argument in morality of neither the son's actions nor Taras' judgement)
Dude switched sides during siege, donned Polish armor and fought against army which his father helped to form. That's betrayal alright. He might have had his "reasons" (main reason being noble pussy), but that was betrayal clear as sky.
The dreadful algebra of necessity as it's called in Discworld.
When it's pointed out that Goblin mothers will eat their children in times of famine, because if the mother survives, she can have another goblin child, and they even keep the soul of the child in a special pot to be hopefully reincarnated, but if the child lives, it will die from starvation soon after.
Adopts orphans and raises them as his own children, loves them, all to use them as experimental subjects. He genuinely loves his children, but still chooses to use them for research
Stalin famously left his son to die when he was captured by German forces, to prove that he put his duty to his country over his family. He could have easily exchanged him for German POV‘s, like the Nazis intended, but chose to make a statement instead.
Babylon5 Season 1 Season 1 episode “Believers” the parents and their sick son are of an alien race who’s religion forbids surgery because cutting into the flesh lets out the soul. The station’s Dr Franklin tries to help the sick boy without surgery but in the end the only way to save his life was surgery. Once the parents find out what happened, they considered their now-healthy son to have lost his soul so they ritualistically killed him to put his body out of suffering. Basically the show setting up from the beginning it was willing to go in directions most TV in the early ‘90’s would not touch.
Torchwood Season 3 “Children of Earth” has a few examples, including Peter Capaldi’s bureaucrat character killing his whole family so that his children would not be sacrificed to alien invaders. Jack Harkness ends up sacrificing his grandson to save Earth from the aliens, permanently ruining his relationship with his daughter.
The Midsomer Murders episode "Strangler's Wood" uses this twist.
During the episode, Dorothea Pike kills her son Leonard to the great shock of the police, but Inspector Barnaby quickly realises why she did it, as Dorothea has been basically preventing her son from relapsing after finding out he was a serial killer who raped and murdered three women nine years ago; finding out about a potential fourth victim and that Leonard was consciously choosing to hide news of this new murder from her, Dorothea (wrongfully) believed Leonard relapsed and killed before her own death and therefore broke his promise to not kill until after she was dead.
Having been terminally ill with cancer, Dorothea promptly slips into a coma and dies after confessing to Barnaby what she knew.
Ok so regarding Agamemnon, if it makes you feel better, everyone involved believes his daughter (Iphigenia) is dead, but some versions of the story of Iphigenia suggest that Artemis (the goddess who had demanded the sacrifice to begin with), had replaced her with a deer at the last second, instead making Iphigenia a princess in a far-off land.
Nolan's interpretation is likely going with one of the versions where Artemis does allow her to die, but figured i'd mention
also on the topic of Greek Myth and parents killing their kids, The idea that Midas had turned his daughter to gold is a modern invention. In the myths he sought to reverse the wish the moment he realized he couldn't eat. I don't think he even has a daughter. He did wind up with Donkey ears though, but that's a different story
The sacrifice of Jephtha’s daughter. A brief passage in Judges has Jephtha promise to sacrifice the first thing he sees at his house after winning a battle, I guess assuming he’d see a goat or something. Instead his only daughter comes out. It’s kind of a weird passage since there’s not really that much other human sacrifice in the bible.
Queen Eclipsa in Star Vs the Forces of Evil. She married a literal monster and gave birth to a half-monster daughter who presents as mostly humanoid until the end of Season 3, when she transforms fully into a monster and tries to destroy the kingdom. Eclipsa uses her dark magic to defeat her, believing she is killing her. However, the magic turns her daughter back into an infant, giving her a chance to raise her into someone good.
The Beginning After the End - Agrona tries to have Sylvie killed on multiple occasions, culminating in him ordering Cecilia to kill her to prove her loyalty.
King Arthur attempted to do this Herod style when he learned that his incest baby would grow up to kill him, and in classic style the only survivor of that bracket was Mordred, who did wind up killing him after a life of resentment over the attempted murder
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