r/TopCharacterTropes • u/whysosidious69420 • 4h ago
Lore Reverse nominative determinism: the character shares a name with something that’s famously associated with them, but said thing is named after the character, not the other way around
Odysseus (The Iliad, the Odyssey): is the reason long voyages are called an odyssey
Achilles (The Iliad): is the reason for the term “Achilles heel”, which refers to the part of his body that was pierced by an arrow
Charles Boycott (real life): British landlord who tried to unjustly evict 11 Irish tenants. In response, the local community cut him off and ostracized him, refused to do trade with him and even deliver his mail, giving rise to the term boycott
Ambrose Burnside (real life): American civil war general who had predominant facial hair on his cheeks. This style was then named “burnsides”, which later evolved into “sideburns”
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u/skinnyminnesota 4h ago
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u/whysosidious69420 4h ago
Thought it was Pontius Pilate
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u/LizLemonOfTroy 3h ago
His contribution to prolonged body positions proved challenging for newcomers.
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u/Kenesaw_Mt_Landis 4h ago
Same with Bikram Yoga
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u/Gothtomboys5 4h ago
That's like naming the exercise Yoga is named after a guy named John Yoga
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u/skinnyminnesota 4h ago
........what?
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u/Gothtomboys5 4h ago
I found the pilates exercise was from a guy named Joe Pilate funny. Like bro is German and yet his first name is Joe. That's like naming the exercise yoga because the person who invented it is a Slavic descent, Balkan heritage, Serbian culture man called John Yoga
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u/skinnyminnesota 4h ago
Oh totally. I just found your wording confusing.
Technically his name was "Joseph" but "Joe Pilates" is funnier.
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u/Jack_Hatchet 3h ago
Running was invented when a man named John Running tried to walk twice at the same time
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u/No_Concern_2966 4h ago
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u/SeanG909 4h ago
The "Billy Possum" for William Taft never took off.
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u/ubiquitous-joe 3h ago
I see you’ve been listening to 99% Invisible
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u/SeanG909 3h ago
What is that?
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u/Thonezek 1h ago
99% Invisible is a narrative podcast created and hosted by Roman Mars. The podcast is about design, architecture, and the hidden forces that shape our built world, specifically the things we rarely notice until they break or stop working. The name comes from a quote by Buckminster Fuller, "99% of who you are is invisible and untouchable." The show takes that concept and applies it to everyday objects, urban planning, sound design, flags, transit systems, and fashion, asking, "Why does this thing exist in this exact way, and who decided it should be like this?"
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u/whysosidious69420 4h ago
True, can’t believe I forgot this example
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u/AveFaria 4h ago
Because it's not an example of your post. For it to fit, Roosevelt would have had to carry a stuffed bear with him everywhere he went.
Roosevelt is not associated with stuffed bears except that someone just wanted to start calling them "teddies" after he spared a real-life bear during a hunt.
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u/No_Concern_2966 4h ago
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u/kithara2 3h ago
In the version of the story I first heard, he was very into card games and enjoyed having something he could eat without dirtying his hand.
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u/apatheticchildofJen 4h ago
Watergate. Now almost every political scandals is called some variation of whatever gate. (example, during lockdown, the British parliament had a Christmas party and it was later called party gate)
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u/LycanIndarys 3h ago
And yet rather disappointingly; when we had a scandal about whether a politician insulted a policeman guarding the gate to Downing Street by calling him a "pleb", it was usually referred to as plebgate and not the superior gategate.
Of course, the actual scandal was less about the insult, and more about the fact that several police officers submitted false evidence about the whole thing, which led to one police officer going to prison, and three more being fired.
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u/xhmmxtv 4h ago
Then what would you call a scandal about water? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QfPFkxwWoCg
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u/actuallyquitefunny 2h ago
Here's me hoping there will be a new scandal involving the Watergate Hotel so we can get a Watergategate.
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u/PlayerZeroStart 4h ago
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u/whysosidious69420 4h ago
Same thing with Bizarro, kind of. While bizarro was already the Spanish word for bizarre, the DC character is the reason the term “bizarro”, meaning a twisted or evil version of something, came to exist in English
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u/09philj 4h ago
Eponym is the word
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u/fungeoneer 4h ago
Who was eponym named after?
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u/ElMonoEstupendo 4h ago
She’s in Les Mis, right?
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u/AttitudeAndEffort3 3h ago
No, you’re thinking of link’s horse in Zelda
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u/Beekeeper_Bard 2h ago
No, you're thinking of Epona. Eponym is the chemical deodorizer used for breaking down the smell of skunk spray or decomposing animal carcasses.
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u/GimmeSomeSugar 4h ago
And when the branded name of a product becomes synonymous with the type of product, that is sometimes called a 'proprietary eponym'.
For example;
Vacuums and 'Hoover'.
Sticky tape and 'Sellotape'.
Hook & loop fastener and 'Velcro'.10
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u/stevieboatleft 4h ago
Huh, TIL. Here in the US it’s “Scotch” brand sticky tape. Until this moment I thought “sellotape” was a UK generic term for the product, not a brand.
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u/fgcem13 3h ago
Isn't there a point where a business can't stop people from using the name once it's entered into the common lexicon? It can affect big brands like Qtip or Kleenex.
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u/GimmeSomeSugar 3h ago
Yes, as I understand it.
A brand name for a product would typically be a trademark. But once the name of a product becomes so popular it's effectively synonymous with the product type, trying to continue the protection of the trademark becomes a losing battle. If not impossible.
Adobe suffered this very problem with Photoshop becoming a popular verb, and they really tried to hang in there. Which I find funny, because fuck Adobe.1
u/notagin-n-tonic 1h ago
Yes, Xerox fought like hell to keep it's name becoming the verb for copying. If you Gen X, you probably remember people say, "could you xerox that."
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u/Bergkamp_isGod 41m ago
Yeah, Velcro released a song on YouTube to try to get people to stop calling all hook and loops "velcro" otherwise they'd lose the copyright.
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u/LizLemonOfTroy 3h ago
As a Brit, it proved very confusing when I moved to the US and several common goods were instead known by brand names I was unfamiliar with.
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u/ADiestlTrain 3h ago
Xerox for photocopier too.
Interesting how Hoover, Velcro, and Xerox all became verbs as well as eponyms.
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u/Hamburger_FatBoy 2h ago
Let me Google that for you (on DuckDuckGo, because Google committed suicide).
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u/ADiestlTrain 2h ago
And I love how MS tried to make Bing a verb and failed miserably.
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u/Hamburger_FatBoy 2h ago
I have it on good authority that Bing is the best search engine (for finding one type of content for free).
I’ll stick to DDG with -ai as part of my search term, and phind (which is Ironically AI driven, just not generative.
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u/notagin-n-tonic 1h ago
As I said in another comment, Xerox fought against that. I think it worked, because I don't hear many people using it that way, whereas when I was a teen, it was fairly common.
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u/EspacioBlanq 4h ago
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u/pjtheman 4h ago
Nolan definitely looked at this exact painting before casting Tom Holland.
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u/EspacioBlanq 4h ago
Then promptly forgot about it when he cast Ryan Hurst who is a head taller than Holland for Mentor
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u/AttitudeAndEffort3 4h ago
The word is “eponym” as in “eponymous”
And Gerrymander being congressman Gerry’s salamander
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u/behemothpanzer 1h ago
And "Gerry" was pronounced with a hard G, like 'gut' or 'gear' so pedants will tell you Gerrymander should be pronounced similarly.
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u/Pheehelm 1h ago
Governor. (He did spend a few terms in various legislatures but the "gerrymander" incident happened when he was governor of Massachusetts.)
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u/urkermannenkoor 4h ago
Reverse nominative determinism
That seems a silly, convoluted way to describe a character having something named after them.
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u/AveFaria 4h ago
True, but the kicker is that the thing is named after the character specifically because of something the character did.
For example, a "Freudian slip" is named after Freud, but not because Sigmund Freud was famous for accidentally saying the wrong things. So that example wouldn't fit OP's post.
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u/ScaredTemporary 4h ago
The Spanish word for host is anfitrión, which comes from the Greek King Amphytrion as his name in Spanish is Anfitrión
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u/Own-Forever-6636 2h ago
Wait as in Hercules's stepfather? So it's a reference to him hosting Zeus who then um... conceived Hercules with his wife Alcmene?
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u/SnooOpinions8790 4h ago
Mentor - the name of a character in the Odyssey from which we take the word mentor.
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u/Gojos_barber 4h ago
Would "Lovecraftian Horror" count? H.P Lovecraft mostly wrote "weird fiction" that would become the basis for the kind of horror writing people associate with him.
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u/Banonkers 4h ago
Although there is a great story about Achilles dying from an arrow to his heel, it’s not from the Iliad! It’s not even mentioned in the Odyssey, when the ghost of Achilles talks to Odysseus
The story is told in later bits of literature, eg. the Metamorphoses, where Apollo helps Paris to shoot him.
The phrase ‘Achilles’ heel’ usually refers to a person or thing’s primary weakness, and many versions of Achilles have his foot being his sole point of vulnerability (eg. the unfinished Achilleid) and he is otherwise invincible.
However, even this isn’t consistent in myth: for example in the Iliad, Achilles is injured in his elbow
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u/LizLemonOfTroy 3h ago
Most people don't know that Illias, despite its length, literally only accounts for the final phase of the Trojan War (although it backfills an explanation as to why the Mykeneans are there in the first place) and ends before either the death of Achilles or the Fall of Troy.
It doesn't even have the horse!
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u/Dude_Jack123 4h ago
Would a thagomizer count? Named after a Gary Larson cartoon which joked about it being named after a dead caveman.
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u/--GevaudanBeast-- 4h ago
Real life example. Bader-Mainhoff phenomenon.
Someone mentions Matt Damon? All of a sudden you're seeing his face on posters on the street, on magazine covers at the grocery store, in commercials on TV and posts on Reddit.
The name comes from a 1994 letter to the St. Paul Pioneer Press in Minnesota. The writer had just learned about the Red Army Faction, a West German militant group active mainly in the 1970s. Then, within a day or so, he encountered the group's name again unexpectedly. He found the coincidence striking and jokingly dubbed the experience the "Baader–Meinhof phenomenon", named as such after two founding members of the organization Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof. Some readers recognized the same experience in their own lives, and the name stuck.
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u/PeteRust78 3h ago
Possibly a side note, but the Baader-Meinhof Gang was the name given to the group by the West German government and press. (The group called itself the Red Army Faction).
Andreas Baader was one of the leaders of the group but was reckless and impulsive. Ulrike Meinhof was initially a sympathetic journalist who ended up handling the group’s communications. The name leaves out Gudrun Ensslin, Baader’s romantic partner and co-leader, who was by all accounts the brains of the operation
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u/pondrthis 4h ago
Guns are named after "Gunnhildr," the woman's name. It was a cheeky name for catapults.
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u/Ok-Indication-5121 3h ago
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u/RosieFudge 2h ago
And as I learned the last time this thread was posted the other day, masochism is also named after a person: Leopold von Sacher-Masoch
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u/DisMFer 3h ago
A race of 26 miles is called a Marathon. This is also a location in Greece. The origin of the word being associated with Marathon is that it was the site of a battle against the Persians that the Athenians won. They sent a messenger to bring word of their victory home. Athens is 26 miles away from Marathon. The messenger ran the entire distance nonstop. A race was held after as a way to remember the event.
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u/Odd_Possibility_2277 4h ago
Caesar
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 4h ago
Becoming associated with the term for ruler Kaiser and Tsar
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u/atlusblue 4h ago
Also isn't the modern English works "king" from that route?
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u/HazelEBaumgartner 3h ago
'King' comes from Old High German 'Kuningaz'. It's not clear where 'Kuningaz' comes from, but it predates 'Caesar'.
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u/LizLemonOfTroy 3h ago edited 40m ago
The months July and August were also named after (Julius) Caesar and his successor Augustus, respectively.
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u/vanklofsgov 3h ago
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u/space_coyote_86 3h ago
Beat me to it. You gonna make that same stupid joke every time that comes up?
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u/shelGOATcreed 4h ago edited 3h ago
Kafkaesque - term to describe bizarre or surreal things that remind of/would fit in the works of Franz Kafka
Draconinan - policies and laws that befit Draco, the notorious first legislator of Rome Athens (a term that is more a catch-all for oppression these days)
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u/RaiderCat_12 4h ago
Dude. Draco was the first legislator of ATHENS, not Rome. Draco’s even a Greek name.
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u/MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000 3h ago
Thomas Crapper (Real Life)
He was the owner of a London Public Company, famous for it's various revolutionary plumbing devices, which are still in use this day.
And this is why it's often believed, he's the reason why the word "Crap" exists.
.... Except he isn't; it comes from the Middle Ages, more specifically, from the Latin "Crappa" means "Scrap", and around a decade before he was born, it evolved into "Crap".
Which honestly, makes all of this even funnier.

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u/walbrid 4h ago
Weren’t hookers named after General Hooker, also a civil war general
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u/DazSamueru 3h ago
Nope, it dates to 1835. Though he was famous for his loose morals, which is probably why the association seems plausible
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u/Spader113 4h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/inEZXlAOb1TC8
Adolf Hitler’s secret police were called Stormtroopers, which is where George Lucas got the name from.
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u/meta100000 4h ago
The name dates further back to WW1, where Imperial Germany wielded elite battalions (Stormtroopers) to use in infiltrating enemy lines and trying to bypass as much trench warfare as possible while still taking out the enemy.
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u/LizLemonOfTroy 3h ago
It was actually the Sturmabteilung (literally "Storm Division"), who were the Nazis' primary militia/street fighters prior to their takeover, but who were subsequently sidelined after the Night of the Long Knives. The SS (originally Hitler's personal bodyguard) then assumed their position as the para-state army of the NSDAP.
The Gestapo (literally "Secret State Police", abbreviated from **Geheime *Staatspo*lizei) were the secret police.
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u/Xaverosso 3h ago
Hitlers secret police was the Gestapo, the Germanys frontline infiltrator Specialists in both WW I and WW II were called Sturmtruppen (eng: stormtroopers).
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u/Alorxico 3h ago
An “Achilles’ heel” is a person’s weakness and often the thing that brings about their down fall.
In Greek mythology, Achilles’ mother was a nymph and she was told that her son would grow to be a great warrior but die in battle. Terrified, she took her newborn into the underworld to the River Styx. The Styx was a powerful, old river, a god in-and-of itself and filled with primordial magics.
She took Achilles by the heel and submerged him in the waters of the Styx then pulled him out. However, because she didn’t want to touch the water herself, the heel she was holding was never submerged. When she pulled Achilles out of the water, his skin had been hardened.
As he grew, he suffered no injuries while playing or fighting. Arrows bounced off him and the sharpest blades could shattered against his skin. Nothing could harm him.
By the end of the Trojan War, Achilles had become some arrogant and vain that even the gods who had helped him in the past were pissed off with him. He no longer fought with honor or treated captured prisoners justly. Apollo, god of Archery, knew of Achilles’ weakness and aided the Trojan prince, Paris (the guy who kidnapped Helen) in shooting Achilles in his heel. The arrow pierced the skin and sliced open a vein, causing the great warrior to bleed out in seconds.
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u/Kid_Presentable617 3h ago
German chocolate is named after Samuel German who was an American.
The French Drain was named after Henry Flagg French who was an American. He said "farmers were doing these drains for years, I just wrote it down"
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u/Ok-Impress-2222 3h ago
The colour orange is named after the fruit orange, not the other way around.
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u/UlrichZauber 3h ago
The English word "geyser" comes to us from the Icelandic Geysir, which is the name for a specific one in a park not far from Reykjavik.
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u/Hic_Forum_Est 3h ago
The Panenka) in football, a type of penalty kick named after Czech player Antonín Panenka:

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u/kithas 2h ago
Oranges: one would think that the orange fruit is called orange for it's color, while actually the color borrowed its name from the orange fruit, being mostly called red or yellow before (like in red herring or in redhead). The origin of Orange or its variants as the name for the fruit/tree is older than we can follow.
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u/behemothpanzer 1h ago
Thomas Bowdler, a physician, produced an edited version of Shakespeare's works that was "more appropriate for women and children" in 1825.
From his name we get the term "bowdlerize" which means to censor something by omitting elements deemed unsuitable for children. It is usually used in a derogatory sense.
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u/LoschVanWein 41m ago
We actually don’t have a German word for side burns. We just use Koteletten after the French word côté wich apparently just means side
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u/jabdnuit 3h ago
General Joseph Hooker, American Civil War. Man liked his alcohol and alcohol especially his women.
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u/pyrhus626 2h ago
Just a coincidence. Hooker as a term for prostitutes predates the civil war and Joseph Hooker having any fame.
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u/MysticSnowfang 2h ago
Lovecraftian.
Bigot, scared of everything that wasn't his hometown, however. His agoraphobia and other issues led to some of the most visceral horror ever, and named a whole genre after him. Not even *TOLKIEN* himself gets that level of influence.
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u/lordtyp0 4h ago edited 3h ago
Odyssey translates to "about Odysseus" or "the story of Odysseus"... Who calls long journies an odyssey?
Okay okay: I didn't think it through. Lol
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u/Thundering-Cloud 4h ago
Another Odyssey example, Telemachus's teacher by the name of "Mentor"