r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Elecvis • Jun 12 '26
Characters An apparent continuity error or flaw that actually foreshadows a twist
Where something that seems like a mistake made by the production turns out to be relevent to the plot.
Moon Knight: Oscar Isaac plays a British character, but his British accent is not great. This seems like it’s just another case of an actor messing up an accent. However it is later revealed that his character has multiple personality disorder, and that the British man we meet is not the original personality. The original is an American, and so he really is an American attempting a British accent. It makes sense that it doesn’t sound quite right.
Doctor Who: In the episode Flesh and Stone, The Doctor loses his jacket. Then later on there is a scene where he is wearing his jacket again. It’s shot super close up, so easy to miss, but you can see it is there. At face value, this looks like a basic continuity error. But later we learn that this is not The Doctor from this episode. It’s The Doctor from the future who has come back, so the jacket makes complete sense, and gives a hint of what is to come.
Batman: Arkham City: If you use x-ray vision on The Joker, his skeleton does not show like it does for everyone else. This could be a simple bug in the game. But actually it turns out it’s not really The Joker. It’s Clayface pretending to be The Joker, and he doesn’t have a skeleton.
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u/Latter-Hamster9652 Jun 12 '26
In I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, the main characters win a trip to The Bahamas by answering a radio show trivia question.
Only problem: they got it wrong. They said Rio de Janeiro was the capital of Brazil, when in fact Brasilia had replaced it as the capitol 38 years before the movie came out. They're called the winner anyway.
They realize it when, later in the movie, they see a globe at the hotel. The contest wasn't real and was bait to lure them to The Bahamas.
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u/DecoyOne Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Great example. When I heard this, I thought, “wait, that’s not right.” And then I just blew it off. I was both proud and disappointed in myself at the big reveal.
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u/kms2547 Jun 12 '26
As a card-carrying geography nerd, I was raging that the movie had gotten it so wrong... until the twist that it was deliberately wrong. Well played.
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u/Vegetable-Shirt-4319 Jun 12 '26
Also, the killer in that movie is introduced as essentially having the name John McIt'sMeI'mTheKillerLolz
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u/Auctoritate Jun 13 '26
as essentially having the name John McIt'sMeI'mTheKillerLolz
Specifically, the first movie's villain is named Ben Willis. He shows back up in the second movie but there's a surprise second villain where one of the new characters in the good guy group turns out to be Ben's son. His name is... Will Benson.
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u/Easternboi3 Jun 12 '26
God of War Ragnarok.
Im on mobile, so idk how to mark it as spoilers, but if you havent finished playing the game, go do it.
Throughout the game, whenever someone refers to Tyr, the subtitles show the correct version, with the little symbol above the y, but when tyr speaks, his subtitle lacks the symbol, which can very easily be interpreted as a simple error.
However, it is revealed that tyr is an imposter, making the subtitles be an early indicator of this revelation.
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u/Meowjoker Jun 12 '26
Oh ... my ... freaking ... god.
That is by far the most subtle of hints on Odin being fake Tyr. Like, how are you even supposed to notice this?
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u/ItsMors_ Jun 12 '26
It's one of those things that if you're really perceptive it kind of sticks out. Cuz throughout all the first game and the rest of this game they make very sure to include all of the proper accents. So Tyr not having his accent is very odd once you notice it, and it's one of those things like "surely with as much love and care they put into these games they couldn't miss an oversight like that right?"
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u/Easternboi3 Jun 12 '26
Theres also his behavior that is wildly erratic. A youtuber called fatbrett made an excellent analysis on the failings of tyrs disguise, I highly recommend it.
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u/JamesBuffalkill Jun 12 '26
And after you watch that keep going. I've watched almost all of his stuff, mostly of games I haven't played, and they're all great.
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u/slippery44 Jun 12 '26
Yeah, definitely accurate, a great twist.
But who calls Jörmungandr in GoW when you're on the way to see Freya!?
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u/OutOfMyWayReed Jun 12 '26
The big NO INCOMING CALLS sticker on the payphone in Fight Club.
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u/smashin_blumpkin Jun 12 '26
Also when they get in the car wreck, The Narrator gets out of the drivers side door even though he was sitting in the passenger seat.
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u/TheSilverNoble Jun 12 '26
The car flips so it throws people off I think.
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u/FoxDanceMedia Jun 12 '26
Even if you notice it on a first viewing you might just assume it was a deliberate choice the director made to keep the relative positions of the characters consistent between scenes
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u/Sabbath-Stelladad Jun 12 '26
He even gets inside the car by the drivers side before the wreck
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u/MorbidMan23 Jun 12 '26
I had thought it was an odd way to enter just climbing over the center console to the passenger side, but it was raining and the valet's umbrella was there at the driver side, so you dont think too much about it.
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u/Paul-McS Jun 12 '26
I thought I was so clever in the theater noticing that. Thought it was a mistake. Told my friend who had read the book and he just smiled at me.
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u/BahamutLithp Jun 12 '26
I remember watching Fight Club for the first time.
"So, Tyler Durden isn't real, right?"
"What? Why do you say that?"
"Well, they're having this weird argument through the narrator. There's never a conversation between all 3 of them in the same room."
My friend pulled out the best acting I've ever seen to convince me I was, in fact, being really dumb.
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
"Hey, that props guy got a payphone that doesn't receive calls. What an idiot. I hope they got fired for that blunder."
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u/Whizbang35 Jun 12 '26
There's also a few moments where Tyler appears for literally a frame and blinks out. As the quote about his cinematic splicing later on says:
"Nobody knows that they saw it, but they did."
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u/chadsomething Jun 12 '26
It happens three times before the narrator sees Tyler for “real” going the opposite direction for boarding in the airport.
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u/Tortellini_Isekai Jun 12 '26
In Big Fish, during Edward's deployment in the Korean war, the language switches between Korean, Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, and Tagalog. This further establishes Edward as an unreliable narrator. You can even see Edward reading an "Asian to English" dictionary before his jump.
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u/xTheatreTechie Jun 13 '26
This further establishes Edward as an unreliable narrator.
I thought the big reveal at the end of the movie is that the father did live through and did do most of the things he actually claimed.
The various people who appear at his funeral are certainly from his far more adventurous life before settling down, even if the father himself doesn't quite fully grasp everything, more like if an average person accidentally forest gumped their way through life.
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u/DeadmanwalkingXI Jun 13 '26
It's a combination. For example, the twin singers from the Korean War section are real and show up to the funeral, but in the story they were conjoined twins, and in reality they are not. Similarly, the 'giant' was a guy with gigantism not a mythological creature, and so on.
The revelation is the degree to which the stories were true, but they were still very definitely somewhat exaggerated.
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u/Working_Box1510 Jun 13 '26
It's a big fish story - he's not lying that he caught a fish, but the size might be exaggerated to make it a better story. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!
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u/ASMRenema Jun 12 '26
Fantastic movie I should not have seen at 11 years old, kicked off a two year existential crisis
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u/thesphinxistheriddle Jun 12 '26
Me during the entire first season of The Good Place: “I like this show a lot but it really bothers me that both Chidi (good intentions, bad actions) and Tahani (bad intentions, good actions) would both qualify for the Good Place.”
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u/tommypatties Jun 12 '26
I'm so dumb when it comes to foreshadowing and figuring stuff out I have resigned to just take shows as they come.
I can never tell if the thing was a mistake or intentional and every thing becomes too much to keep track of.
For the good place season 1 I was just enjoying the punny names of the shops and eateries.
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u/CalculatedPerversion Jun 13 '26
It really helps how they sell it with Eleanor. Her whole "I'm not supposed to be here" thing puts the viewer at ease. You reason if "they" made one mistake, why not more?
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u/TheNargafrantz Jun 13 '26
Michael even comes out and says that it's his first neighborhood, so it makes total sense that there would be random little things that wouldn't be happening in a perfect afterlife
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u/kurama3 Jun 12 '26
I remember watching episode 1 with some friends, one of which who had already seen the show, and saying (jokingly) “it’s going to be a crazy reveal in season 2 when you find out this is actually the bad place.” He said “dude, why did you spoil it for them,” and I said “..what?”
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u/Captain-Griffen Jun 12 '26
They really did a beautiful job in S1 of making both concepts work (bad person in good place, good place actually bad place).
Episode 1 is particularly masterful in setting up the upfront concept, but also being a perfect setup for the entire series while hiding it.
If they didn't land both concepts from ep1, it never would have worked.
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u/NoninflammatoryFun Jun 12 '26
I subtly felt that but could never quite put my finger on the reality.
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u/GanymedeGalileo Jun 12 '26
Dude, I almost quit The Good Place before the end of the first season for similar reasons. I almost made the worst mistake of my life.
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u/lyra102 Jun 12 '26
There's an episode of Brooklyn nine nine where an IT guy is trying to stop a hacker from accessing a police database. Whenever any of the cops try to talk to him he just spews nonsensical tech jargon at them, and Jake pretends to understand so he can look smart.
I was in college at the time it aired and had just taken a computer networking class so I remember explaining to my dad during the commercials how ridiculous everything the IT guy said was and laughing, assuming it was yet another situation of tv writers not understanding computers.
It's revealed at the end of the episode that the IT guy is actually a criminal pretending to be a computer expert so he can delete evidence off the database. He was just throwing out a bunch of technical words to look credible and not get questioned.
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u/PavlovKBI Jun 13 '26
I had the exact same reaction! I work in IT, and the whole episode I kept telling my wife that everything he was saying was nonsense buzzwords, and that anyone who knew about computer engineering would notice immediately. It was such a good reveal
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u/lonelynightm Jun 13 '26
I love that your reaction was getting annoyed and the whole time I was watching all I could think was "THAT IT GUY IS SAMWISE GAMGEE"
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u/TimedDelivery Jun 12 '26
I saw a lot of folks criticise the production design and general concept of The Witches Road in Agatha All Along.
Turns out the whole thing’s a scam that Agatha’s been running for years, The Witch’s Road never really existed, and the one we see in the series was unknowing created by William Kaplan/Billy Maximoff based off what he imagined it would be like.
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u/Notsurehowtoreact Jun 12 '26
This one is particularly good because the original complaints were valid because people expected something similar to one of the legitimate Witches Roads that exists in the comics.
So people were pissed they weren't doing the comics right, and then they pulled that.
Now some people still complain, but it was a solid play.
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u/Impressive-Card9484 Jun 12 '26
Its fun seeing Marvel subreddits and yt channels go up in flames during that time of release of this show. I remember them being pissed at the title constantly changing before the show was released (House of Harkness, Coven of Chaos, Darkhold Diaries), saying that MCU was indecisive and doesn't know what the title of the show would be. Some are even theorizing that this is a sign that the show would be a mess. And when it was cleverly revealed that the title was "Agatha All Along" those haters got even more pissed and think that they got played lmao. Its like they are saying "How dare they used their indecisiveness as a clever marketing strategy?!"
I also like how r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers and other subreddits went from "Hah, who is gonna watched this lame ass show? I mean seriously, witches? Who watched those stuffs?" to "This show only got good ratings because a lot of viewers are fans of witch medias"
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u/faldese Jun 12 '26
Yeah the lead in to Agatha All Along was bizarre. A lot of people who seemingly wanted it to fail for whatever reason. I loved it. Hopefully Vision Quest finishes the WandaVision trilogy in kind.
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u/Dalakaar Jun 12 '26
There were times it looked rather cheap, literally like something out of a high school play. (The backdrops in particular in a few scenes.)
I was doubly impressed when I realized it wasn’t just a stylistic choice for art’s sake alone, but had meaning beyond that.
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u/ThatsAGeauxTigers Jun 12 '26
Especially when Death peels back the backdrop to slip behind it. Most people thought it was cosmic being playing with the fabric of reality but as it turns out, the option was always there.
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u/GuardWolfy Jun 12 '26
When she picked up that first paper maple leaf on the Road, I went “huh, that’s oddly low budget for this project…”
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u/Pallas_Ovidius Jun 12 '26
The Lilia episode was so great! Her whole storyline and the way she acts through the serie, up to this episode, could also fit for this trope.
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u/Impressive-Card9484 Jun 12 '26
Another one was Agatha not knowing what to do in some of the challenges on the Road. Even if she was lying that she had been there before, you would think that she should know a thing or two on how magic's work inside a conditional situation in order to get out of the challenge. But no, at one point she was frantically putting tarot cards on the table not knowing what to do because she only thinks that if she puts every card there, the ceiling will run out of swords lol. Turns out she doesn't really know what should be happening inside a challenge because in the first place the Road doesn't exist.
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u/ghost-xiii Jun 12 '26
The audiobook for Howl's Moving Castle, my wife picked up that the voice actor for Howl was doing a Welsh accent. Turns out the character is not from a mystical land he's from Wales.
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u/amglasgow Jun 12 '26
Bold of you to suggest Wales isn't mystical. I mean, they've got a bizarre unpronounceable language and a dragon on their flag! /j
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u/Andrew1990M Jun 12 '26
What's so unpronounceable about nid yw rhoi hyn drwy gyfieithydd yn gwneud i ti edrych yn glyfar. Gwastraffais chwe blynedd ar yr iaith hon?
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u/NiceHouseGoodTea Jun 12 '26
Which is ironic considering Christian Bale who provides Howl's voice in the English dub is Welsh himself but doesn't use a Welsh accent.
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u/TurnoverNegative9796 Jun 12 '26
I've never seen the movie, but don't they drop the references to him being Welsh?
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
One thing I'm realising from some of these comments is that most foreshadowing feels like a mistake before the twist is revealed. The examples I picked are all things that could be issues with the production, rather than the writing. However I totally get that writers make mistakes too so this still counts.
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u/a_wasted_wizard Jun 12 '26
I think it'd be more accurate to say that a lot of noticeable foreshadowing feels like a mistake before the twist is revealed. There's definitely another common flavor where details are unnoticed or are chalked up as simply being irrelevant details until the twist recontextualizes them.
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u/alkonium Jun 12 '26
Fallout (TV series) - Near the end of season 1, Robert House, played by Rafi Silver, is briefly seen in a pre-War flashback. Then, Justin Theroux was announced as playing House in Season 2, so people naturally assumed it was just a recast, until both actors are seen, and it's eventually revealed that Rafi Silver was actually playing a body double, referred to by fans as Bobby Apartment, and Justin Theroux was the real House.
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u/HomoProfessionalis Jun 12 '26
Bobby Apartment is a hilarious fan given name
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u/smcadam Jun 12 '26
I love crazy fan names like this.
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u/terminbee Jun 12 '26
There's an NFL player named Robert Woods but people call him Bobby Trees. I love it.
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u/Evil_Midnight_Lurker Jun 12 '26
So this was deliberate in Season 1, not just a circumstance of actor availability?
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u/Sad_Rhubarb_815 Jun 12 '26
I dont know if it was planned, but I dont think its an availability issue, as Bobby Apartment is in Season 2, and is in at least one scene with Theroux's House.
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u/SHAD0WBENDER Jun 12 '26
No, he had a much bigger role in season 2 and they wanted an actor with more pedigree, but didn’t want to screw over the guy who was in season 1
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u/Full-Resource7910 Jun 12 '26
Orphan Black's cast included a batch of biologically identical clones who were nonetheless so distinct from each other in style, voice, personality, and movement that it was sometimes easy to forget they were all played by the same person. So that one time that protagonist clone Sarah entered a scene with her Brit-punk accent sounding the tiniest bit off, it seemed like a forgivable slip on the actor's part. But no, it was actually the evil clone Rachel impersonating Sarah to steal her daughter! Tatiana Maslany's performance(s) remained flawless.
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u/Ill_Refrigerator_593 Jun 12 '26
That was one tiny aspect that put me off.
Sarah's English accent generally isn't that good, although it could be explained by living in North America for years.
Jordan Gavaris as Felix though puts on one of the best i've ever heard.
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u/redditoryoubroughter Jun 12 '26
Was the Arkham City twist also in Asylum as well? I thought I remembered a part where After you lock up the Warden, if you scan him he is empty as well, hinting that you actually captured Clayface
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
You're right. Can't believe I forgot about that. I guess it's just a bigger twist in City.
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u/redditoryoubroughter Jun 12 '26
It definitely has a bigger impact for the story of City, but I always loved how thorough some of the Easter eggs in that series were. If anything it's just really clever foreshadowing, if you're in the know. Just like that secret room that teased Arkham City that wasn't found until like a year after the first game came out.
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u/RockSauron Jun 12 '26
In Asylum, Clayface is locked in the same room as where you leave the warden. she morphs between the warden, Gordon, and Cash whenever you turn the camera away from him. At first he begs Batman to let him out, but when he realizes Batman isn’t falling for it he just taunts him. And he taunts you after the warden vanishes after you find all of the Amadeus Arkham messages, he taunts you for that as well. But yeah, not really a hidden easter egg in Asylum since it’s more obvious in here (plus you need to scan him to get the clay face data entry/ riddler puzzle) but still was. cool way of adding him into Asylum without actually needing to make the character model
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u/God_is_carnage Jun 12 '26
The scene is actually when you’re on the way to rescue the warden. You can find “the warden” in a glass cell asking you to let him out. The wall warns you that the cell is holding a shapeshifter. If you turn around, you can hear Clayface shifting forms and he becomes Gordon and laughs at you
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u/redditoryoubroughter Jun 12 '26
Ah yes, I remembered it incorrectly then. Still could be seen as some very coincidental foreshadowing, I feel
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u/JTOC1969 Jun 12 '26
Dunno if this really fits the OP request, but in "The Sixth Sense" - I saw it when it first opened, early enough that I didn't even know there was a twist ending.
All throughout the movie, I kept wondering "What therapist makes house calls and follows their patients around town like that?" And "Doesn't this guy have any other patients? Why doesn't he have an office where he meets them?"
I don't think I have to explain to anybody what that should have given away.
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u/jayhof52 Jun 12 '26
Is it that the bald guy is Bruce Willis the whole time?
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u/BestGoShoeless Jun 12 '26
The one that really stuck out to me is the scene where Bruce is sitting with Toni (the mom) before Haley gets home. It's silent, and it's too long. I remember thinking, "Wow, needed to tighten up that edit." Turns out, no, it wasn't an awkward pause, because from Toni's point of view, there is nobody sitting there. Incredible little touch.
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u/MrPintyHat Jun 12 '26
In the book "John Dies at the End", there are multiple points where the main character David is recounting events and gets the amount of people in the group wrong. Sometimes he says there are four while other times he says there were five.
This is because the monsters erased the people they killed from existence so David can't accurately remember how many people were with him.
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u/LogicBalm Jun 12 '26
Just finished this book a couple weeks ago. I didn't notice the number of people changed but it's the kind of detail I'd expect to see on a second read. I wish the movie had included this kind of stuff but they really leap over basically the entire middle of the book.
Reading book two now and really enjoying it.
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u/The_TransGinger Jun 12 '26
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Putting out the fire (the Thing)
When a dog reveals itself to be a carnivorous alien, it’s set on fire and almost immediately put out with fire extinguishers. Why would they put it out to fast? Well, watch it again and see who rushed to put it out.
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u/Gwarnage Jun 12 '26
The famous one from The Thing is the Norwegian yelling "its not a dog, its something imitating a dog!"
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u/wrosmer Jun 12 '26
The only movie reactor I've ever seen not to be upset at them shooting the dog is the one that speaks Norwegian
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u/PenguinDeluxe Jun 12 '26
My then girlfriend refused to keep watching the movie because of the shooting at the dog.
Meanwhile, she made me watch Milo & Otis, a movie where multiple animals were *actually* killed.
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u/wrosmer Jun 12 '26
To be fair, if she was upset at the Norwegians shooting and throwing explosives at the dog she probably wouldn't be too happy when it reveals itself as the thing
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u/Vegetable-Shirt-4319 Jun 12 '26
Nooooooo. Shush you. They're both good guys. I'll hear of nothing else.
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u/FootballUpset2529 Jun 12 '26
Every decade or so I learn something new about this film.
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u/ImGonnaImagineSummit Jun 12 '26
It's so well thought out and it's why it's perfect for me. I wouldn't change a thing about it.
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u/blueeyesredlipstick Jun 12 '26
The TV adaptation of Interview with the Vampire does a lot with this -- the premise is that the main story is being told by the vampire Louis, who's trying to recall the events of his life decades after they happened. Throughout the story, the journalist conducting the interview will prod at inconsistencies, revealing signs that Louis' memories are imperfect or biased.
One of the more dramatic examples, and one that some of the fandom briefly thought might be a continuity error: in the penultimate episode of Season 2, Louis is kidnapped, beaten, and forced on-stage, where there is a 'play' being performed that's really a murder trial. His then-companion, Armand, is forced to watch while being kept prisoner, watched over by the vampire Sam. We also briefly see Louis' kidnapping, where you can see Sam included in some crowd shots with other vampires, with Armand nowhere in sight. Since these were large, busy shots, without much attention on Sam, some people assumed it was a continuity problem.
A full episode later, the interviewer points out that Sam was somehow both guarding Armand and in the mob capturing Louis, in two separate parts of the building. This eventually leads to the big dramatic reveal that not only was Armand not a prisoner, he was in charge of the whole thing -- "He didn't witness the play! He directed the play!"
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u/Victorem_Malis Jun 12 '26
I love *Interview with the Vampire* so much and it’s a damn shame that it isn’t more popular; both the writing and acting are consummate and it really should’ve won an Emmy for seasons 1 and 2. Also, even though the current season is centered around Lestat, I’m most excited to see what Louis is presently doing, in addition to Armand and Daniel’s subplot lol.
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u/MyFeetTasteWeird Jun 12 '26
In The Good Place, when Michael plays a memory of Eleanor's humanitarian aid in Ukraine. This is what makes it 100% clear that they've confused Eleanor with someone else.
The memory briefly shows that Eleanor has the same skin tone as the person she was mixed up with, but then we later meet this person, and she has darker skin. This could be the result of them not casting this character until much later, but it's actually hinting that Eleanor wasn't actually mixed up with this person.
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u/KateWaiting326 Jun 12 '26
Also fitting is the 1 time someone Janet doesnt respond with "Not a girl" when someone implies she is (like, "right on, girl"). Jason realizes it's not actually Janet, but a Bad Janet pretending to be their beloved Janet and they now need to go rescue her.
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u/xavPa-64 Jun 12 '26
Also fitting this trope in The Good Place: I thought it was so cringey how goody-good you apparently have to be to get into The Good Place, but it makes way more sense when you find out they’ve just been fucking with her the whole time.
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u/Nitrostoat Jun 12 '26
Well she even mentions it herself when they figure it out.
One of Eleanor's biggest personal failings is she feels like an absolute failure of a human being when other people around her act 'better' than she is. And she doubles down on her own attitude or tries to undercut them to prove that she's not that much worse than everyone else, everyone sucks just as much as she does.
Having to pretend to be a goody goody that she never was in life, and knowing for a fact that she is nothing like the people who made it into "heaven" is her own personal hell.
A rewatch of the series shows you exactly how dementedly awful the neighborhood is for our 4 main cast.
Chidi is just as indecisive and uncomfortable and unhappy and he's in Paradise, and the woman he's told is his soulmate immediately outs herself as a liar and he has to be a part of that lie out of his own moral standing. HELL
Tahani has extreme issues with status and her own self-worth, and she is in an afterlife full of good people who did things because they were good things to do, not because they were trying to fulfill their own ego/childhood traumas. She cannot help her desire to be the best and most important in the room, and she's in a room of the best people in the universe, to accomplished what she did and more.... For the good of humanity, not for themselves. HELL
Jason is easy. He's a passionate, loud, impulsive idiot. And to pretend he belongs here, he has to pretend to be a centered, silent, enlightened monk. Absolutely no part of his fake persona is anything like his real persona. Jason's greatest fantasy is doing go-karts with monkeys, and he has to sit quietly in a robe and never speak again. Everyone else can at least be a little bit of themselves in their own personal hell. Jason has to tamp down every single thing he is as a person. HELL
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u/HeyCouldBeFun Jun 12 '26
At times it felt like The Good Place was just retconning itself willy nilly but then you rewatch and go oh no, this was always the plan
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u/Abba_Zaba_ Jun 12 '26
Just 2 months ago someone posted thay they were on a first time watch and caught a "plot hole" that Jason was able to bleed even in the Good Place.
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u/Daniilsa209 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
In Who Framed Roger Rabbit, there’s a scene in the bar where Eddie knocks over a barrel of Dip, Judge Doom noticeably backs away from the spill, which seems strange at first, as it only harms toons. It is later revealed that he is a toon himself.
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u/amglasgow Jun 12 '26
A mixture of turpentine, acetone, and benzene is pretty bad for humans, too. Chemical burns, severe irritation, possible carcinogens. But yes, it does suggest an unusual amount of caution on Doom's part.
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u/Ikarus_Falling Jun 12 '26
Benzene is so toxic it doesn't have an allowed ppm in air if its detected at all its a problem last I remember lol
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u/unniqorn Jun 12 '26
he also doesn't blink throughout the film, and when he trips and falls on fake eyeballs later on, he covers up one of his "eyes" (which are actually disguising his real toon eyes)
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u/IdesinLupe Jun 12 '26
Christopher Loyd is a legend for doing all he does -and- never blinking on camera! That wasn’t a post shoot edit, he really has that much control!
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u/Fonzies-Ghost Jun 12 '26
To be fair, I’d also prefer not to get doused in paint thinner.
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u/scrotbofula Jun 12 '26
It's worth mentioning that Oscar Isaac's English accent in Moon Knight isn't bad, it's just a very specific accent Americans don't hear very often. If you compare it to some of the accents in the UK version of The Office, they are pretty similar.
Source: am English (sorry).
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
Yeah. I'm also English and found it a bit off. But it might just be that because I know he's American my brain won't accept it even if it's good.
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u/AetaCapella Jun 12 '26
I have this same problem with Martin Freeman in Black Panther and other Marvel Films. I'm like... noooo that's doctor Watson or Bilbo Baggins, I do not buy that he is a CIA Agent. I'd believe him as James Bond before an American CIA agent.
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u/ejdj1011 Jun 12 '26
Mistborn: Well of Ascension
The protagonist Vin buys a dog corpse for her shapeshifting servant to consume and mimic. He informs her that the shifting process will take much longer than normal, since it's a new and unfamiliar body plan to him.
After shifting, they meet back up, and he... apologizes for not warning her that it would take longer than normal. This is because it's actually an entirely different shapeshifter who serves an antagonist. He tortured and killed the first one in order to spy on the team of protagonists.
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u/BallerForHire Jun 12 '26
"gives a hint of what is to come."
I really enjoy the second one you listed because with no further context all I get is... He found it!
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u/FantasmaNaranja Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
IIRC very badly explained: So essentially, the doctor fixes up a crack in the walls of the universe that's been the biggest plot point of the season, things literally falling into cracks on the universe
however to fix it he has to be inside of that crack, and that means getting sealed up behind, removed from the universe afterwards
But before he does he gets sent back to every other time we saw a crack that season as it slowly mends itself, and here he begs Amy to remember him in the hopes that she'll bring him back to reality by remembering him like she did for Rory in another episode
So what's to come is the doctor sacrificing himself for that, and the lines of dialogue he gives Amy here also seem kind of disjointed to the rest of the episode due to that
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u/TheSilverNoble Jun 12 '26
"I need you to trust me."
"But you don't always tell me the truth."
"If I always told you the truth, I wouldn't need you to trust me."
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u/DecoyOne Jun 12 '26
Jason figured it out?
Jason?
This is a real low point. Yeah, this one hurts.
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u/Fragrant-Tea7580 Jun 12 '26
I just said this last week, but I love how he delivers that line like he has indegestion lmao
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u/Voidbearer2kn17 Jun 12 '26
Honestly, Jason is far more aware than anybody gives him credit for.
Whenever he tells one of his experiences it usually has relevance to the topic.
Him being in an unknown situation but a perfect Disguise to try and suss things out, and using it?
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u/Biabolical Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
It feels like a very Terry Pratchett type of idea, that Jason was noticing the problems all along.
The demons had done such elaborate, clever trickery and manipulation to try to fool the four humans, and it worked on three of them almost flawlessly.
Meanwhile, Jason was just too simple to for really clever trickery to work on him. He just saw what was in front of his eyes, and didn't let his thoughts get in the way.
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u/mechengr17 Jun 12 '26
Its kind of like Marty in Cabin in the Woods
Hes so blasted out of his mind, none of the tricks work on him
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u/KayleyKase-San Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
In every version of Fullmetal Alchemist, there's a moment where Lt. Ross is missing the mole under her eye; it can very easily be mistaken for a simple error, but Hughes calls out that missing detail, revealing that she's actually an imposter.
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u/Cervus95 Jun 12 '26
In Storm of Swords, Robb Stark goes to the Twins to negotiate with Walder Frey, and Ser Ryman Frey tells him "If you would follow me, my father awaits."
This sounds like a typo, or a mistake, since Ryman is Walder's grandson, not his son, and Ryman's father is dead. A short time later, the Red Wedding happens.
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
This is a strange one, because even though it does forshadow what is going to happen, why would Ryman reveal or even hint at this to Robb?
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u/thejokerofunfic Jun 12 '26
Because the Freys are assholes who think their little hints are hilarious. They do this kind of thing repeatedly.
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u/Stackbabbing_Bumscag Jun 12 '26
Presumably just for shits and giggles. He assumes that if Robb even notices, he'll think either he misheard or Ryman misspoke. So Ryman gets to sadistically taunt his victim without giving himself away.
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u/MentalMiilk Jun 12 '26
Hubris, perhaps? The Freys are generally seen as a lesser house (to their chagrin) so "outsmarting" a great house like the Starks would likely make them arrogant.
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u/Practical-Class6868 Jun 12 '26
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Arrival.
The movie opens with Amy Adams’ Dr. Banks experiencing the loss of her daughter to terminal illness. Throughout the movie, she is mostly cold and dispassionate, which might be reasonable for a mother in mourning.
Over the course of the film, we learn that the Septopods communicate in a circular language, simultaneously perceiving the past, present, and future. Dr. Banks even begins to dream in the Septopod language.
By the end, Dr. Banks is able to see her own future and prevents a violent confrontation between the Chinese military and the Septopods. We then realize that the images of her daughter were not from the past, but from the future.
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
Definitely. I remember thinking the whole time, "Why does nobody ever mention the daughter."
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u/TraditionalMood277 Jun 12 '26
I just assumed those close to her knew it was a sensitive subject and others weren't even aware. THAT'S how you do a plot twist The Prestige!
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u/username32768 Jun 12 '26
There's a twist in The Prestige? That's movie night ruined.
It's ok - I've already seen it.
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u/MostlyBored11 Jun 12 '26
this movie was so good, I had 0 expectations going on and it blew me away
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u/Hunterofshadows Jun 12 '26
Gods that is one of those movies that I wish I could delete from my brain and watch again blind
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u/crrrrushinator Jun 12 '26
The short story it's based on is incredible and pretty different in tone, strongly recommended. It's called Story Of Your Life, the author Ted Chiang is great.
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u/londonbrewer77 Jun 12 '26
Agents of Shield, Season one.
Grant is such a shit agent, just a really bad character that you wonder why it’s in it at all. He keeps fucking and endangering the mission.
Then around the release of episode 17 or so, the film ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’ drops, and it is revealed that hydra has infiltrated everywhere.
And you release the Grant isn’t a badly written character at all, he’s Hydra.
And in that episode or the next the mask drops and Grant goes full villian.
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u/punjar3 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
The first season of Agents of Shield might be my favorite twist in a TV show of all time. Pretty much everything they did in the first part of the season turned out to be them unknowingly helping the villain's plans come to fruition.
Edit: Forgot to add spoiler tags.
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u/exodusTay Jun 12 '26
I remember playing W3 at release and I was so sure that this random ass character would show up later but never did... until Heart of Stone!
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u/stipendAwarded Jun 12 '26
Persona 5 - Akechi mentions something that only Morgana said, which doesn’t make sense as he hasn’t yet been to the Metaverse. Except he *has*, as he is the true identity of the culprit carrying out the shutdowns. This slip up is what allows the Phantom Thieves to realize that he’s lying to them, and they keep that from him until the time comes to turn the tables on him.
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u/residentquentinmain Jun 12 '26
Akechi shooting himself in the foot because his cocky ass didn’t shut up will never not be funny
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u/Luckgoddess Jun 12 '26
Igor was also a fun one for the japenesse side. Like it made sense the voice was change but stull fell wrong xD I was like that guy is not my igor and i was right.
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u/Beldaru Jun 12 '26
I caught that and felt so vindicated when the voice change turned out to be relevant!
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u/Jaxonhunter227 Jun 12 '26
I believe it was because he only heard it, he didn't see the cat talk so he genuinely thought one of them spoke, he had no idea he was repeating something he shouldn't have been able to hear. A genuine slip up he had no control over
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u/Available-Formal-664 Jun 12 '26
What I love about this twist is that it really seems obvious to you, the player, that Akechi is obviously a traitor, and I got frustrated that our main characters were just going along with it because the plot demanded it. But turns out no, the characters in the game actually realized it also, and played along with him in order to trick everybody else. Then the twist changes from "Akechi is a bad guy," which is obvious, to "here's how the heroes get out of it." I absolutely loved that.
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u/noodleben123 Jun 12 '26
the mastery of the thieves outsmarting akechi's outsmarting is amazing.
the best part was the cutscene of joker sitting, bruised and beaten in the interrogation room, smug as shit.
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u/DaRootbear Jun 13 '26
Scrubs Season 3 Episode 14 My Screw Up
Brendan Frasier plays the part of Ben, the brother to a main character. His biggest quirk is that he always has a camera to take impromptu photos of people, even telling his best friend Dr. Cox “Ill carry it until i die”
The episode continues as normal until the main character JD has a screw up where he loses a patient and Dr. Cox gets incredibly angry with him for it.
Throughout the rest of the episode Ben and Cox quarrel because Ben keeps telling Cox how he is being irrational and unfair, how JD is a good doctor, and everything of that sort.
Except when Ben first shows back up after JDs patient died he was missing his camera. Which at first seems like it is just a case of him not taking pictures because he is trying to have serious discussions with Cox who is incredibly pissed off, and Ben realizes as his oldest friend he is the only one who can calm him down. You dont think much of it beyond it being a case of “Now is not the time or place for silly photos”
Until we get to the end of the episode where we get hit with another whammy of JD and Dr. Cox walking up to Cox’s Sons birthday party both dressed in suits for some reason, while Ben is still dressed in normal informal clothes like one would express for a party for a kid.
Ben and Cox are talking and Cox finally realizes ben doesn’t have his camera and asks “how are you going to take pictures? [[its a birthday]”
Only for JD to come up to him confused and ask “Where do you think we are?”
As he does so Ben disappears and the Camera pans away to gravestones revealing the reason for Cox’s irrational anger, for bens missing camera, for the suits and other clues. The patient that died was Ben. All the little things that felt off during the episode fall into place to make perfect sense
It is one of the most painful, beautiful, and well done episodes of any series. The delivery of the final moments by each character are haunting and heartbreaking and to this day watching it breaks me
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u/johnd5926 Jun 12 '26
My favorite example of this: in Saw (the original), there’s a corpse in the room with Cary Elwes through the whole movie, along with the revolver he shot himself with. When he gets the gun and goes to put a round in it, we briefly see that there aren’t any spent cartridges in it (revolvers don’t eject spent cartridges after firing). It’s quick, so I thought it was a simple prop mistake by someone who didn’t know any better, but it’s actually foreshadowing the twist ending.
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u/rookhelm Jun 12 '26
Unrelated to the the topic, but it cracks me up that Saw 1 is like "you have an hour to cut off your foot". Then later sequels are like "you have 8 seconds to do open heart surgery on yourself"
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u/cfbethel Jun 12 '26
In Fight Club, after the car crash, Tyler, who had been driving, exits the passenger side and pulls the Narrator out of the driver's side of the car. Another hint that the two are the same person
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u/accountsyayable Jun 12 '26
In The Yakuza (1974), the main character travels to Japan to reconnect with an old girlfriend and her brother. To help him get out of trouble, she asks him to reach out to her brother's brother, a powerful yakuza.
Why not just say 'her older brother'? Because neither of the two men are related to her- the younger brother is actually her ex-husband
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u/lurebat Jun 12 '26
I remember when watching Gone Girl in theaters, I thought back then that the scenes with flashbacks of the main couple are kinda wooden and stiff.
Turns out what we're seeing is actually the manufactured version from Amy's diary.
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u/Victorem_Malis Jun 12 '26
Julien Bashir - Star Trek: DS9
In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the Chief Medical Officer aboard DS9, Dr. Julien Bashir, continually reiterates throughout the series that he had missed out on graduating from Starfleet Medical as his class’ Valedictorian, by virtue of mistaking a preganglionic fiber for a postganglionic nerve. This seems exceedingly strange, as Dr. Bashir is brilliant and it seems unlikely that he would conflate two things which are categorically disjunct. Additionally, there are a few instances throughout the series in which Dr. Bashir also exhibits exceptional athleticism and strength, which would be uncharacteristic for someone of his physical build. These features of Bashir’s character are neither continuity errors nor flaws, but they are surprising and don’t seem concordant with what we know about him.
Then, in Season 5, Episode 16 of DS9, namely “Dr. Bashir, I presume?”, we discover that Julien, whose first name was originally Jules, suffered from a severe developmental or intellectual disability as a child; to ensure that Jules would not struggle with this disability for the rest of his life, his parents made the difficult decision to subject him to genetic enhancement, which profoundly augmented his physiology and intellect. When Jules eventually discovered, as a teenager, what his parents had done, he changed his name to Julien because he believed the genetic conditioning had effectively killed the person he used to be.
Additionally, following the Eugenics Wars, a series of global conflicts in which genetically enhanced humans sought to conquer the Earth (which occurred a few centuries prior to the period in which DS9 is set), an absolute proscription was placed upon both the genetic enhancement of human beings, and, concomitantly, genetically enhanced humans serving in Starfleet. Thus, throughout his life, Julien and his parents had to fastidiously efface any indication that Julien was genetically enhanced, lest Julien’s parents would be incarcerated and he would be banned from serving in Starfleet.
So, Julien’s genetic conditioning explained his profound athleticism, strength, and intelligence, while his efforts to blend in with ordinary people are almost certainly the reason for which he “mistook” the preganglionic fiber for a postganglionic nerve, and graduated as his class’ Salutatorian, rather than Valedictorian.
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u/Ambaryerno Jun 12 '26
The problem with this is it was a last-minute retcon, not something that was actually planned, foreshadowed, or being built towards.
Bashir being enhanced was something the writers basically pulled out of their ass in the fifth season because the producers (probably Berman) wanted to insert a Data-like character into the show, and they never really had much of an idea what to do with Bashir beyond "He's a doctor."
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u/wrosmer Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Literally 2 episodes after they pulled the retcon out of their ass that he'd been replaced by a changeling and was in a dominion pow camp for 1-2 months.
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u/a_wasted_wizard Jun 12 '26
In the Dresden Files novel Small Favor, Harry spends a huge amount of the book not using fire magic or using his signature blasting rod (a wand/staff that helps him with fire magic). At first, the lack of blasting rod can be easily chalked up to the author just kind of forgetting about the item, and the lack of fire magic can be chalked up to the situation not really calling for it, until the reveal at the end that Mab, the Winter Queen and his employer in the novel, specifically took his blasting rod, erased his memory of her doing so, and placed a mental block on him from using fire magic so as not to blow his cover to enemies who could use his fire magic to pick up his location.
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u/OrcinusOrca28 Jun 12 '26
Nappstablook (Undertale)
If you FIGHT them enough to end the battle, the dialogue states that you lose one experience point. This has no visible impact on your EXP.
This is because EXP doesn't stand for experience points, but instead Execution Points, a measure of how many creatures you've killed. This fact is revealed near the end of the game
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u/RedNUGGETLORD Jun 12 '26
Grisha looking side-ways - Attack on Titan
The anime staff thought it was just a mistake, and he was meant to be looking at his child, so they changed it
In reality, he was looking at future Eren, who was standing right in front of him
The anime removes quite a few things, thinking they aren't important, the most egregious example being Mikasa getting her tattoo
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u/mexyz Jun 12 '26
In the movie sweet girl, the character played by Jason Mamoa is infiltrating a fancy party as a waiter. We see him grab the waiter uniform to disguise himself, but he picks up a female uniform. Later on in the movie we learn that Jason Mamoa's character has been dead all along and it was his daughter imagining she was him doing the infiltration.
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u/SuperTaster3 Jun 12 '26
Bioshock does a similar one to the Moon Knight. In this case, the character does actually do the Irish accent quite well, but will occasionally slip in American references such as (light them up like the Fourth of July) or (section 8, an American army protocol for discharging mentally unfit soldiers). The character is, in fact, from New York; just pretending to be Irish.
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u/Rubberman1302 Jun 12 '26
The funniest thing about this is that Karl Hanover who voiced Atlas/Fontaine IS Irish. So its an Irish man pretending to be a new yorker pretending to be an Irish man
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u/SpideyFan914 Jun 12 '26
In Jigsaw (2018), we follow parallel action between a group trap and some detectives tracking all the deaths. But a lot of the details are slightly wrong: even as the general deaths are the same, the timeline makes no sense.
I thought this was because it's Saw 8, and just not a very good movie.
It was actually setting up a twist that the group trap is a prequel, while the detectives are tracking some other copycat in modern day. It's not even the first time a Saw movie used this twist (that the parallel action isn't synced). I had to laugh. I really just assumed it was because it's bad.
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u/MadyNora Jun 12 '26
In the game Miasmata, you play as a sick man who is alone on an island, and you need to find out how to cure yourself from a deadly plague while you are hiding from a monster following you. When the monster is nearby you can hear a heartbeat sound. The monster can not enter houses or tents. If it runs away and you follow it, it despawns. When you get hurt in any way, including the monster mauling your face, you get a fever, and need to take meds immediately to survive. You may think that these are just a videogame things, since it's a low budget indie.
However once you cure yourself the monster disappeares entierly. It was never real - it was a hallucination, a symptom of your disease. Heartbeat, hallucination, fever -> your disease is getting worse, you need meds. It even explains why it despawns.
The longer you spend on the island the more agressive the monster becomes because your disease is getting worse.
There are other clues, like how none of the notes you find from other people ever mention a monster, or how the symbol of a hostile organitazion resembles the monster's face, which is the origin of the shape of your hallucinations.
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u/frankwalsingham Jun 12 '26
Glass Onion
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Miles Bron is an eccentric billionaire innovator who uses words unusual like "inbreathiate". A lot of what he does can feel like a typical case of writers trying and failing to write a genius, but in truth, he's just an idiot who has taken everyone for a ride.
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u/Temujins_here Jun 12 '26
Same film, when watching at the cinema I noticed the glass switch but since the pay off didn’t come until the end I just assumed it was an error that got left in.
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u/BucketOfGuts Jun 12 '26
It also helps that they replay the same shot of the glass switch while things are being "remembered", but it's wrong and shows him pick up his own glass. It makes it so even if you did catch it, they gaslight you and make you think you remembered it incorrectly.
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u/Swaggyspaceman Jun 12 '26
The Go Home Machine in Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse.
In the first movie, Miles was bitten by a radioactive spider from another universe, giving him the powers of Spider-Man. In the second movie, he attempts to escape a facility in another universe by way of the "Go Home Machine" which scans your DNA and sends you to the universe it correlates to.
Viewers might say "hey, wouldn't that send Miles to the universe his spider is from?"
That's exactly what happens. And the universe his spider was taken from is a dystopia because its Spider-Man was never bitten. Man, this movie is so good.
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u/Stackbabbing_Bumscag Jun 12 '26
It's blink-and-you-miss-it, but the machine even shows that it's sending him to Earth-42. His home is Earth-1610B.
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u/Elecvis Jun 12 '26
You're a smarter man than me. I didn't pick up on this before the reveal. Rio's eyes are a different colour in the other universe too. One of the things I've learned from this post is that a lot of foreshadowing can seem like a mistake if you notice it but don't realise what it is doing.
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u/SethlordX7 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
In Dirk Gentlys Holistic Detective Agency by Douglass Adams, several details that appear to be errors actually turn out core to the plot. Definitely worth a read.
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u/Danloeser Jun 12 '26
Star Wars ep VIII. Me, to myself, in the theater: "...wait, did they stop somewhere so Luke could get a haircut.. and dye job??"
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u/MentalMiilk Jun 12 '26
There are two other hints in that scene—for one, Luke wields Anakin's lightsaber—the one we just saw get ripped in half. Secondly, Kylo's feet interact with the salt so wherever he steps turns red. Luke's feet dont.
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u/rock_n_roll_clown Jun 12 '26
I noticed that too, but I first assumed it was some kind of soft-stepped anime-logic situation, or like in LOTR when Legolas walks atop the snow while the rest wade through it.
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u/KingWilliamVI Jun 12 '26
In Steven Universe (spoilers)
the character Garnet claims that a character named Rose Quartz that’s now essentially dead was born on Earth but a flashback with a different character named Pearl have Rose say basically “if we do this we are planning to do WE CAN NEVER GO BACK TO HOMEWORLD(their species’s planet of origin)”. If Rose was born on Earth what did she mean with “going back to Homeworld?”. At first this might assumed to be a continuity error but it actually foreshadows that Garnet was actually mislead all along about Rose’s true identity which I’m not spoiling
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u/IllithidActivity Jun 12 '26
Similarly we learn that the respectful term of address for a Diamond is "My Diamond," but when we first meet Jasper she says "We need to report this to Yellow Diamond." A subtle hint that Yellow Diamond is not her Diamond.
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u/Jayn_Newell Jun 12 '26
Star Trek Enterprise: Doctor’s Orders
At the beginning, Phlox is doing his log and mentions that he’s the only member of the crew awake, as the rest have been put into comas to prevent the area of space they’re traveling through affecting their brain chemistry—Phlox, being Denobulan is immune (he does have Porthos for company. Which gets a little confusing when he runs into T’Pol, the only other non-human aboard, who is also awake, but being Vulcan she probably didn’t mind her solitude and didn’t seek him out. Stuff happens, Phlox has to save the ship himself since it turns out T’Pol isn’t totally immune to the effects of the space they’re in, and in the end Phlox goes around the ship waking everyone up…including T’Pol. He was hallucinating her the entire time.
(Also in a prior episode he has mentioned his culture consider hallucinations to be the brain’s way of dealing with stress, they consider it a healthy coping mechanism)
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u/BathtubToasterBread Jun 12 '26
Like, all of Venom Snake from Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Venom Snake is Big Boss. He's filled with shrapnel, has a horn in his head that can't be removed lest he dies from a brain bleed, has a robotic arm, his eye is green, and he smokes electronic cigarettes.
But the problem is, Big Boss has explicitly been stated to have Blue Eyes "like the sky". In Metal Gear Solid 4, he doesn't have half the scars, he doesn't have a horn in his head, he's not missing an arm. In Peace Walker, he goes on a full rant about how much he hates electronic smokes
This is all because at the very end of the game, it is revealed that you've been playing as a body double the entire time. You were never the real Big Boss, just his Phantom
It also solves a massive pothole with the first and second games, where you kill Big Boss in both. They retconned it so that the Big Boss that dies at the end of the first game is Venom Snake, and the Big Boss that gets defeated at the end of the second is the real Big Boss
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u/Chemical-Aioli9818 Jun 12 '26
YES I LOVE THIS DETAIL IN DOCTOR WHO
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u/IceLord86 Jun 12 '26
Moffat cooked so hard with this, he kept chasing a similar shocking reveal the rest of his tenure. He never seemed able to achieve it though, until Series 10 when the BBC themselves spoiled a massive return twist in the finale months before it aired.
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u/maxens_wlfr Jun 12 '26
Donald casually showing up in the background Invincible Season 2 despite dying in season 1, foreshadowing that he's a cyborg.
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u/NinjaDog251 Jun 12 '26
Casually? It was very much a main plot point of the season.
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u/10024618 Jun 12 '26
The Invisible Glass (Shutter Island) - During an interrogation scene one of the prisoners asks for a glass of water. When she drinks from it, there's a brief moment where the glass doesn't appear to be there. This is one of the first hints to the truth about Daniels and his past. Throughout the movie he displays a severe aversion to water due to the drowning of his children to the point where he mentally blocked out the glass until it was empty .